We don't know about this one, gang. In fact, we're posting this video that supposedly compares the XBLA version of Goldeneye with its N64 counterpart both so you can enjoy it and also so you can go all Zapruder film on it and let us know your opinions on the validity. Right now we're leaning towards shrugging our shoulders and grunting quizzically.
From what we've heard most recently, this is probably a moot point, with the XBLA version currently in limbo. But if this version is real (and assuming they were planning on fixing the sound glitches) we're now even sadder that we won't be getting our hands on it.
Why would you want that, though. Think of it this way. If goldeneye were released today, it would be absolutely horrible compared to all other fps right now. It would get a 1 average from reviewers. This means, today, you wouldn't play it for the quality of gameplay, you would be only playing it for nostalgia. I personally think thats a dumb reason to play a game, especially one like this which doesn't age well.
This was found out the very first day the video came out, someone also pointed out that the "B" (or the red button on the right side) is showing, and there was nothing in the N64 version of the game.
Nah, it's not using Project64, or any other emulator. As someone pointed out, you can see the red B button icon appear on the mission screen on the "360" version. Also, you can see the frames per second on screen, and Project64 doesn't do that (it displays it in the status bar or as big white text overlay)
I agree 100% - this isn't project64... however, don't rule out a a fan created port for the PC using an Xbox360 controller. For the record, I WANT this to be real, but there's no way to tell for certain from the video.
Regardless of whether this particular vid is real or not, MS and Ninty need to settle up so we can get a rerelease of this great game.
one other thing - don't rule out video trickery either. This could be edited footage of the original created to get the fans all riled up. If that's the case.... well I hope it works - I want this game on XBLA very badly. A VC release would be ok... but it would lack online multiplayer.
I hope it uses both analog sticks that would be great.
Over Nine Thousand points of coolness to whoever did this video.The Dead Rising music was a nice touch,Dead Rising is still my favorite Xbox 360 game of all times.
The lack of dual analogs was the only reason I stopped playing Perfect Dark on the harder difficulties. Dual analogs would make PD and Goldeneye amazing.
Actually I figured out how to set up Project 64 to use one 360 controller for the 2.4 setup in Perfect Dark which basically makes the game play like Halo (left stick: move; right stick: look). It was actually a lot of fun, but a little too easy.
All you have to do is make the 360 controller the input for both controllers 1 and 2 in the game. Unfortunately Perfect Dark doesn't allow for 2.1 - 2.4 controls to be used in multiplayer, which was a big disappointment.
Face map features >:( or was that Perfect Dark? Either way, if this ever comes back later after an agreement is reached, they should totally put it in.
Emulator. Easy enough to put a red B in the menu screen with ANY video editor. Cut to emulator. The 60fps in the corner is the giveaway. Totally emulator.
you really can't be certain - debug builds of games often include a fps monitor. I said it above, and I'll say it here - there's no way to tell for certain from this footage whether it's an XBLA build, a fan made PC remake using a 360 controller, or simply video trickery.
Actually, I haven't seen a single GCN game match up to the graphics of God of War 2. GCN simply wasn't pushed to its limits. If it was, then yes, GCN could have had something that looked better than GoW2, but it doesnt.
"Those were awesome graphics at the time. Like FR said, GC graphics are better than PS2."
well it's not "at the time" anymore and graphic have been upgraded a heap since last gen. we all know that both Gamecube and Xbox had better graphics than PS2 but those are all last gen consoles. all of the current gen consoles have better graphics than all of the last gen consoles. i dont know, i guess i expected more of a graphics boost since it's on the 360 which produces some great graphics. it doesnt really matter to me either way though since i wouldnt be playing it even if it was coming out (check the avatar lol). i just like to keep up on the gaming world is all lol.
I'm pretty sure that's just an emulated game using higher res textures. I believe it's Project 64 (correct me if I'm wrong) which has a video plugin that can fetch high resolution textures to replace the game's original ones.
Because the graphics look deceivingly bad for something that is supposed to be running natively with improved assets. I also doubt Microsoft would let Rare get away with not increasing the polycount on those models.
Don't believe this video! It's a fake! I've seen XBLA material and this just doesn't live up to it. What this guy did was play Goldeneye on a N64 emulator using a graphics plugin that allows you to inject new textures into N64 ROMs. Look it up sometime. He most likely downloaded or created a high-resolution texture package for Goldeneye and used it to make this fake video.
I promise you, this is not authentic material. XBLA material would have better models, better texture mapping than this. Even if it was a development version, it would definitely have looked better. There's no way they'd call that high-def quality.
If this was on the 360, it would no doubt have dual-stick controls. The video still looks stiff in the strafing and looking controls, much like it was on the N64.
I dunno, though. You'd think this video would have been yanked posthaste if it were real.
Theres a Goldeneye mod for HL2 on steam. Its multi[layer only and pretty faithful with the levels (some liberties taken). That satisfies my nostalgia thirst for goldeneye. Though i would love yo give the single player another run-through.
I was ridiculously excited for Goldeneye Source... until I realized it was only for multiplayer and they weren't redoing the whole game. What's the point? They could have just released gun packs and some maps. Then at least I'd still be able to jump.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Hitman101 @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:35AM
Wow gratz to Vakir. I didn't know this would reach joystiq. We all laughed on vent when it got featured.
paragraph @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:36AM
:(
That just poured salt in the fresh wounds...
Looks faithful though :)
rv @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:27PM
Why would you want that, though. Think of it this way. If goldeneye were released today, it would be absolutely horrible compared to all other fps right now. It would get a 1 average from reviewers.
This means, today, you wouldn't play it for the quality of gameplay, you would be only playing it for nostalgia. I personally think thats a dumb reason to play a game, especially one like this which doesn't age well.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:32PM
maybe there's people out there who want to play this even though you dont? i dunno the thought just occured to me
rv @ Jan 22nd 2008 4:14PM
I know that, dumbass, and I Was talking about the possible reasons why they would want to play. Learn to read buddy.
ChowFahn @ Jan 22nd 2008 4:26PM
"Saving content. Please DON'T turn off your console." Don't? I thought that was supposed to be "do not"? Looks pretty fake to me.
Nathan @ Jan 22nd 2008 6:41PM
@ rv
It's one of the big contributors in the way FPS games are today. It's significant and kids who never got the chance to play it should get that chance.
That's why you would want to play it.
If you gave it to a kid who had never played an FPS before he would love it.
deaftly @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:40AM
ah such great memories of this game, i would just buy it for the online multiplayer.
mike_p @ Jan 22nd 2008 5:58PM
You and me both.
How many hours I've spent on that game after high school, I shall never know.
Adorada @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:40AM
This was found out the very first day the video came out, someone also pointed out that the "B" (or the red button on the right side) is showing, and there was nothing in the N64 version of the game.
Brandon @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:43AM
Alot of posters over at Gonintendo theorized that the second footage was just an emulator from project 64
Ben @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:07PM
Nah, it's not using Project64, or any other emulator. As someone pointed out, you can see the red B button icon appear on the mission screen on the "360" version. Also, you can see the frames per second on screen, and Project64 doesn't do that (it displays it in the status bar or as big white text overlay)
Mike @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:30PM
I agree 100% - this isn't project64... however, don't rule out a a fan created port for the PC using an Xbox360 controller. For the record, I WANT this to be real, but there's no way to tell for certain from the video.
Regardless of whether this particular vid is real or not, MS and Ninty need to settle up so we can get a rerelease of this great game.
Mike @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:33PM
one other thing - don't rule out video trickery either. This could be edited footage of the original created to get the fans all riled up. If that's the case.... well I hope it works - I want this game on XBLA very badly. A VC release would be ok... but it would lack online multiplayer.
Mr.ESC @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:44AM
I hope it uses both analog sticks that would be great.
Over Nine Thousand points of coolness to whoever did this video.The Dead Rising music was a nice touch,Dead Rising is still my favorite Xbox 360 game of all times.
dan stabbingworth @ Jan 22nd 2008 1:15PM
The lack of dual analogs was the only reason I stopped playing Perfect Dark on the harder difficulties. Dual analogs would make PD and Goldeneye amazing.
Spinfusor @ Jan 22nd 2008 3:51PM
You can use two analog sticks (plug in two controllers; note that the look y-axis can't be changed from inverted).
rockintom @ Jan 22nd 2008 3:35PM
You could use the analog/c-button route. I always played with those controls, and was pretty much unstoppable to anyone using the standard setup.
dan stabbingworth @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:17AM
Actually I figured out how to set up Project 64 to use one 360 controller for the 2.4 setup in Perfect Dark which basically makes the game play like Halo (left stick: move; right stick: look). It was actually a lot of fun, but a little too easy.
All you have to do is make the 360 controller the input for both controllers 1 and 2 in the game. Unfortunately Perfect Dark doesn't allow for 2.1 - 2.4 controls to be used in multiplayer, which was a big disappointment.
theCardinal @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:47AM
Could have been the first good FPS on the 360.
Oh! ;)
Co @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:57AM
Fight 'em Nintendo! That game made the N64!!
Mr.ESC @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:31PM
I thought the game that made the N64 was Ocarina of time or Super Mario 64.
Mike @ Jan 22nd 2008 11:59AM
wow.. that's the game people are raving about?!?.. whew.. saved me some money. I'd rather watch paint dry then play that.
Fernando Rocker @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:05PM
I guess you are a newbie in gaming.
Corbo @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:16PM
How exactly does watching paint dry before you play the game help?
jsn @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:23PM
it's nostaglia man. It was the first good console FPS and for many the first FPS they'd experienced.
Mr.ESC @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:30PM
Maybe he likes wall candy.
ThornedVenom @ Jan 23rd 2008 1:16AM
Shame on you. Respect your roots.
Dracard @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:01PM
Face map features >:( or was that Perfect Dark? Either way, if this ever comes back later after an agreement is reached, they should totally put it in.
riggs @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:03PM
i thought they were going to "enhance teh visualz" (if this it) wtf?
skeez @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:06PM
Emulator. Easy enough to put a red B in the menu screen with ANY video editor. Cut to emulator. The 60fps in the corner is the giveaway. Totally emulator.
Mike @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:37PM
you really can't be certain - debug builds of games often include a fps monitor. I said it above, and I'll say it here - there's no way to tell for certain from this footage whether it's an XBLA build, a fan made PC remake using a 360 controller, or simply video trickery.
B3astofthe3ast @ Jan 22nd 2008 1:45PM
Actually, I haven't seen a single GCN game match up to the graphics of God of War 2. GCN simply wasn't pushed to its limits. If it was, then yes, GCN could have had something that looked better than GoW2, but it doesnt.
Adv2k1 @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:08PM
that doesn't look that much better, it could pass as decent GAMECUBE game, which is disappointing.
Fernando Rocker @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:09PM
Gamecube games are excellent quality... much better graphics than the PS2.
NeverSage @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:53PM
Umm... Have you ever played a gamecube game? Those were awesome graphics at the time. Like FR said, GC graphics are better than PS2.
B1gC72 - PSN: KillaKornbread @ Jan 22nd 2008 2:07PM
"Those were awesome graphics at the time. Like FR said, GC graphics are better than PS2."
well it's not "at the time" anymore and graphic have been upgraded a heap since last gen. we all know that both Gamecube and Xbox had better graphics than PS2 but those are all last gen consoles. all of the current gen consoles have better graphics than all of the last gen consoles. i dont know, i guess i expected more of a graphics boost since it's on the 360 which produces some great graphics. it doesnt really matter to me either way though since i wouldnt be playing it even if it was coming out (check the avatar lol). i just like to keep up on the gaming world is all lol.
NeverSage @ Jan 23rd 2008 1:05PM
B1gC72 - PSN: KillaKornbread,
I'm not saying they shouldn't redo the graphics, I'm just saying that this does NOT look like a gamecube game. Maybe an early PS2 game...
Greg2k @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:08PM
I'm pretty sure that's just an emulated game using higher res textures. I believe it's Project 64 (correct me if I'm wrong) which has a video plugin that can fetch high resolution textures to replace the game's original ones.
Because the graphics look deceivingly bad for something that is supposed to be running natively with improved assets. I also doubt Microsoft would let Rare get away with not increasing the polycount on those models.
So, I'm calling this a fake.
ViagraFiend @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:10PM
*Shrugs shoulders and grunts quizzically.
*Minimizes Joystiq and continues to look at porn.
Dictatorship @ Jan 22nd 2008 2:51PM
No wonder your name fits like a ring on you.
And I mean THAT ring.
ViagraFiend @ Jan 22nd 2008 3:28PM
You mean the ONE ring?
*Looks around for Orcs
SpexFox @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:18PM
Don't believe this video! It's a fake! I've seen XBLA material and this just doesn't live up to it. What this guy did was play Goldeneye on a N64 emulator using a graphics plugin that allows you to inject new textures into N64 ROMs. Look it up sometime. He most likely downloaded or created a high-resolution texture package for Goldeneye and used it to make this fake video.
I promise you, this is not authentic material. XBLA material would have better models, better texture mapping than this. Even if it was a development version, it would definitely have looked better. There's no way they'd call that high-def quality.
Oobgarm @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:18PM
If this was on the 360, it would no doubt have dual-stick controls. The video still looks stiff in the strafing and looking controls, much like it was on the N64.
I dunno, though. You'd think this video would have been yanked posthaste if it were real.
T3H WICKERMAN (TMNT DF) (BWF) @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:25PM
I would pay 15 bucks for this. Online MP, spruced up frame rate and textures...goldeneye achievements!
ChiTownRuler23 @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:56PM
meh never really like goldeneye
ChiTownRuler23 @ Jan 22nd 2008 1:01PM
liked*
Adam Danielson @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:56PM
Theres a Goldeneye mod for HL2 on steam. Its multi[layer only and pretty faithful with the levels (some liberties taken). That satisfies my nostalgia thirst for goldeneye. Though i would love yo give the single player another run-through.
NeverSage @ Jan 22nd 2008 12:56PM
I was ridiculously excited for Goldeneye Source... until I realized it was only for multiplayer and they weren't redoing the whole game. What's the point? They could have just released gun packs and some maps. Then at least I'd still be able to jump.
CubeGuy @ Jan 22nd 2008 3:40PM
You can't jump in the official GE:S servers. On the others, jump is usually still enabled.