Turning Point: Fall of Liberty demo goes Live

by Justin McElroy { Jan 23rd 2008 at 8:45AM }

They may not admit it aloud, but the one secret wish of most game designers is that the Nazis could have perfected time travel. Think of it: Splinter cells of the Third Reich that could be at any point or any place in history! Game design would be a simple as "Copy All Nazis", "Load 'Woodstock'", "Paste All Nazis". Instant game! Without the crutch of Nazi time travel to lean on, Codemasters has done then next best thing and created an alternate history where the Nazis won World War II in Turning Point: Fall of Liberty.

Now, you can see for yourself how easy game developers could have it if the Nazis were still kicking around with a demo for the game that just arrived on Xbox Live. Hopefully it can scratch the itch that Woodshock: Reich and Roll never will.

Tags: codemasters, demos, nazis, turning-point, turning-point-fall-of-liberty

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)

Mike-453 @ Jan 23rd 2008 10:31AM

I like some fo the gameplay ideas, but firefights are dull in comparison to other games and why do the Nazis take so many bullets to die?

baby sea tuna @ Jan 23rd 2008 10:37AM

Well, they *are* the master race...

FlyLikeAMouse @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:04AM

This is quite possibly the worst demo I have ever had the misfortune to play. The graphics suck, the gameplay sucks and the control system beggars belief. Also, I can't work out how they made this demo 1.2gb seeing as it is basically a glorified N64 game.

Mike @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:04AM

*Yawn*

JonFitt @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:33AM

Nazis. I hate those guys.

Bi11 Brasky @ Jan 23rd 2008 12:45PM

Well I would rather have FPS's than just a shitload of partygames and minigames like some other console.

Drew @ Jan 23rd 2008 1:35PM

Sigh... since you want to turn this into a console bashing fest, let me get all of em out of the way and save everyone the trouble.

The Xbox 360. RROD FPS MACHINE M$ SUXXXXXX!

Nintendo Wii. U haev nothing but minigames. u r teh suk.

Playstation 3. More like Delaystation 3! Haa U have no games.

Mike-453 @ Jan 23rd 2008 2:35PM

Perfectly done, good sir.

Ryan @ Jan 23rd 2008 4:43PM

A fine job indeed.

Poisoned Al @ Jan 23rd 2008 7:21PM

You forgot PC gamers! Oh wait, I forgot. We're perfect! :D

Drew @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:16PM

PC Gamers - We're better than those stupid consoles....

Ummm you pretty much summed it up for me ;)

nate @ Jan 23rd 2008 2:33PM

you do realize there is a higher percentage of PS3 games that are FPS and or TPS right...just saying...probably also on PC since they're always coming out with some new 20-30 dollar POS FPS..

Poisoned Al @ Jan 23rd 2008 6:47PM

They are cheaper to make and popular with the public. FPS games are the naughty's version of the ninety's 2D platformer.

Poisoned Al @ Jan 23rd 2008 7:20PM

Is it out for the UK yet coz I don't see it? But Live is being a dick again anyway so meh.

Ryan @ Jan 24th 2008 12:13AM

Well, the demo did indeed suck gameplay wise.

It's too bad the gameplay is so bad (seriously, who the hell thought this was ok?) because the setting, triggered events, etc are freaking awesome.

Terrible gameplay and graphics ruin what could've been completely epic.

Poisoned Al @ Jan 24th 2008 9:24AM

Yeah, I thought the same. Nice idea, shit game.

Shockgamer @ Jan 24th 2008 3:20AM

So disappointing. I knew in my heart for a while that this game wouldn't be any good, let alone able to stand up to the excellence of top tier FPS like Orange Box, Halo, CoD or Resistance.

Still, there was just a small hope in the back of my mind that the game would pull through and deliver on its interesting premise.

The controls are just too sluggish to look past. Unless the PC version has greatly improved movement, I'm just going to have to mark this off as an also ran.

Jason M @ Jan 29th 2008 8:05PM

Having played FPS games since DOOM and Wolfenstien back in the day this game really suprised me.

It's a nice idea for a game, and someone really should do it properly one day...

This attempt is a real timewarp and plays a bit like Duke Nukem from the early 90's except it's not as much fun. The controls are limited and weak, the enemies look almost 8bit (really only a slight exageration) and the fact that I can see an enemy for what seems like an eternity before I'm in any danger is just lame.

As people are saying, with Orange Box, COD4, Assassins Creed, etc... the bar has been raised but this is probably the lamest thing I've seen on the XBOX360, F.E.A.R. not withstanding... A true failure in every department.

I've just finished reading an interview with the producer and I'm sad to say that these guys just suck... they planned release in Nov last year and pushed to Q1 '08 ... they should either take a long hard look at what they've squeezed out here and rethink the release schedule again ... or face 3/10 style reviews... because as it is... this is going to bomb worse than anything else on the system.

so in short... it sucks super hard.

CodieTom @ Jan 31st 2008 5:33AM

Response of Spark Unlimited:

Reactie van Spark Unlimited om de game te verbeteren:

Our Response to Player Feedback on the Turning Point Xbox 360 Demo

We just wanted to take a moment to personally thank everyone who took the time to download the Turning Point: Fall of Liberty demo and to comment on our work in progress. All of your feedback is very valuable to us and we are working hard to meet your expectations with the final version of the game.

Since the demo was finalized, the team has put several months of work into the code and we thought you might like to know that a number of questions raised by those trying the demo will be positively addressed in the final game.

For example:

Optimized targeting and movement: Optional control settings have been refined to alleviate sluggishness in the slowest setting and the 'on ice' feeling at the faster settings. Also, a user-defined soft lock has been added which means that controls can be set so once an enemy is hit with a bullet the crosshair will ‘stick’ to the target.

Refined AI behavior: The dynamic intelligence and pathfinding for enemies has also been enhanced. The 'hot point' based system should add to Turning Point’s replay experience.

Ammo levels and grappling optimized: Up until final submissions, the team has been listening to playtest feedback and doing everything possible to create a ‘civilian at war’ feeling. The end result is an experience more visceral than the demo, relying less on repeated ammo refills, and more on the grappling and the hand-to-hand combat.

Final Mip-mapping and texture levels: The art team has also been able to further optimize lighting, textures, and effects throughout the title.

Again, thank you for all your feedback and support as we finalize Turning Point: Fall of Liberty and continue to do everything possible to deliver on our goal of creating a fantastic and entertaining experience for you.

Sincerely,

The Team at Spark Unlimited

ysdarkfact @ Jan 23rd 2008 8:51AM

Already played this on OXM 81, and it is a very very bad game. I'm going to tell people now, don't even waste your time.

Intentless @ Jan 23rd 2008 8:58AM

Could you elaberate as to why you feel it is a bad game? Graphics, controls, plot? Anything specific?

License to ill @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:53AM

Its CoD3 crappy, a pure mediocre game.

I'll take a pass on this one...

ysdarkfact @ Jan 23rd 2008 6:13PM

I think all of the above. Bad graphics, controls, and game play.

Veko @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:04AM

Suprisingly, I'm currently using a PC. Where's my PC demo of this game? I probably won't buy it, but I'd at least like to be able to rightfully make fun of this game, rite?

xGeneral DEATHx @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:09AM

Major kudos to Justin on the title Woodstock: Reich and Roll. I just got a case of the lulz when thinking of Nazis taking a flamethrower to a crowd of hippies. :)

baby sea tuna @ Jan 23rd 2008 10:35AM

Reminds me of a joke I heard a few years ago:

What's orange and yellow and looks good on a hippie?

Fire.

chenry @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:14AM

World War II: Electric Boogaloo?

ThornedVenom @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:22AM

DO NOT CROSS STREAMS

Manicbomber @ Jan 23rd 2008 9:38AM

It's horrible.

Cyrofex @ Jan 23rd 2008 10:00AM

Reich and Roll - if not Game Of The Year 2008, at least Game Title Of The Year 2008. I think I may even have lol-ed, which is unusual for me...

naxe @ Jan 23rd 2008 10:07AM

surprise xbox get's another fps!!

is anyone as surprised as i am?
i can hardly control myself. its so different then everything else ever released on my xbox.

baby sea tuna @ Jan 23rd 2008 10:18AM

Stop posting.

Mike-453 @ Jan 23rd 2008 10:33AM

lulz you dislike first-person games

as do i, boring peices of shit, platformers ftw!

(seriously, ima wanting moar platformers)

Vidikron (FU) @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:03AM

You post the same stupid shit in every post about an FPS.

NATO_Duke @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:17AM

Dude, people need to just report you for abuse. You are a useless griefer who only trolls to cut on XBox and FPS titles. You have said nothing of interest, nothing funny, and nothing to set yourself above any other banned visitor.

naxe @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:19AM

@ Vidik

wow you noticed too? it must slip my mind everytime i post a comment. how embarrassing for me. > _

naxe @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:27AM

and your comments are always hilariously witty, edgy, and the very reason for joystiq's existence. you are a god amongst men with your comments posting abilities. and for that good sir you will always have my respect.

i only hope that one day i too can be ass lame ass you. maybe one day. crossing my fingers.

NATO_Duke @ Jan 23rd 2008 11:49AM

"ass lame ass" Oh giggle giggle - you said naughty words.

What a tough guy you'll be when you grow up.

Babel @ Jan 23rd 2008 2:30PM

The thing is, naxe, that a lot of comments here are actually quite witty. Yours, meanwhile, fail to do anything beyond using the sort of sarcasm a young child uses when he's just discovered what the word means.

Maybe next year, you can start using 'irony'!

Ryan @ Jan 23rd 2008 4:01PM

urprise naxe makes another lame post about fps games!!

is anyone as surprised as i am?
i can hardly control myself. its so different then everything else ever released posted by naxe.

naxe @ Jan 23rd 2008 4:41PM

i think its so cute how you guys jump to each others aid, very touching stuff.

i wish i had someone to stand up for me when my chips are down. wisper sweet nothings into my headset.
*sigh*

one day...... one sweet day......

and its surprise my amigo not urprise. unless you mean uprise.

anyways. i dont want to mess with you guys. your so much cooler and much more articulate then ill ever be.

sorry guys. sorry everyone that i made so angry that you had to hurt my feelings by posting bad stuff about me. i do apologies and will never talk bad about any fps ever again. FRIENDS?........