Fox says EA ignored invite to discuss Mass Effect [update]
We're wondering if an EA representative coming on MacCallum's show would get the same treatment as Geoff Keighley in the original segment. Also today, Totilo contacted Brown, who reiterated his position from yesterday's letter. Hence, both sides are waiting for other to somehow respond. Is someone going to make the next move (we're doubtful), or is this just going to blow away until the next batch of "sex-ified" games? (Potential candidates include Grand Theft Auto 4, Smash Bros Brawl and Spore.)
Update: GameDaily contacted EA VP of Communications Jeff Brown, who wrote the original letter to Fox News, to see if there was any update on the situation. Said Brown, "Not much to say other than there's no interest here in another debate with an 'expert' that will say anything to sell a book. They need to step up and correct the record." We couldn't agree more (and we can't seem to get the image of Brown's razor sharp fangs out of our minds).
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
sifer2400 @ Jan 25th 2008 1:34PM
FOX are bullshit LIARS just like the lie for there news
I CALL BULL CRAP
baby sea tuna @ Jan 25th 2008 2:11PM
Well put.
You are a gentleman and a scholar.
miyagi @ Jan 25th 2008 5:24PM
Apparently Amazon is deleting the so called "experts' reviews for her book. This morning it had almost 500 reviews and now it's back to around 60.
Lianne @ Jan 25th 2008 1:35PM
Just because EA did not come to discuss Mass Effect does not give Fox the right to air uninformed segments on it.
NoHitHair @ Jan 25th 2008 1:43PM
Funny you should say that because that's the mass media's excuse for absolutely every misleading story they run.
"Well, the person we wanted to take the counterpoint didn't show. So we're going to run roughshod over the point we have until it saps us of whatever faux journalistic integrity we had to begin with! And then we'll blame it on the other side - for not coming on to defend themselves."
Marty @ Jan 25th 2008 2:38PM
Gimme a break... if the party who made the product doesn't show, that doesn't mean you can just make up whatever the hell you want about it. Do some bloody research for once, Fox!
T3H WICKERMAN (TMNT DF) (BWF) @ Jan 25th 2008 1:36PM
"Hey Steve!"
Zeus.:God @ Jan 25th 2008 5:01PM
www.homestarrunner.com
Vegnagun bwf @ Jan 25th 2008 7:47PM
It's "eh Steve", buddy. Get it right.
T3H WICKERMAN (TMNT DF) (BWF) @ Jan 25th 2008 7:49PM
Stephen T from mtv who gets the frequent Hey Steve ! on the joystiq podcast.
T3H WICKERMAN (TMNT DF) (BWF) @ Jan 25th 2008 7:50PM
Stephen T from mtv who gets the frequent Hey Steve ! on the joystiq podcast.
RolexDPracer @ Jan 25th 2008 1:39PM
Who would go on a Fox "fair and balanced" pony and dog show anyways. This is what Fox does. They suck out loud.
Intentless @ Jan 25th 2008 1:44PM
Wow... Please take back your misinformed slander... No we asked you to be there and you didn't show so we said what we said.... 1st grade much?
Norm @ Jan 25th 2008 1:47PM
I'm sure they would have edited it out anyway, I mean look at how much time they gave Jeff K to speak.
"I certainly won't allow Mass Effect in my house!"
(because I am a pansy-ass douchebag)
ugg.tryptophan @ Jan 25th 2008 10:03PM
agreed, if they cant handle 30 seconds of blue "coin slot" they'd better disconnect their TV's
FOXHOUND @ Jan 25th 2008 1:49PM
Just when you thought FOX couldn't stoop any lower, they underachieve even further.
Obie @ Jan 25th 2008 1:50PM
Fair and balanced my ass.
paragraph @ Jan 25th 2008 1:55PM
Fair and Balanced, if by Fair you mean Biased, and by Balanced you mean right wing asshats without a clue, then yes, they are Fair and Balanced...
Nicholas @ Jan 25th 2008 1:56PM
How about letting Lawrence's publicist how you feel about her intervention on the show?
http://www.cooperlawrence.com/contact.html
T3H WICKERMAN (TMNT DF) (BWF) @ Jan 25th 2008 2:32PM
Whoa check out the gums on that crazy broad!
J-Guy @ Jan 25th 2008 1:57PM
Looks like we're going to have to storm FOX headquarters. Now, who wanted the shotgun?
T3H WICKERMAN (TMNT DF) (BWF) @ Jan 25th 2008 2:31PM
Fine as long as I get to keep Ann Coulter!!!
wootman @ Jan 25th 2008 4:02PM
bfg plz.
andyg8180 @ Jan 25th 2008 1:57PM
i say SUE THE HELL out of them EA... thats libel baby!!
Although i think EA is a bunch of greedy monsters, employees of BioWare do not deserve that crap!!
SUE SUE SUE SUE!!!
XanthouS @ Jan 25th 2008 2:04PM
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NeverSage @ Jan 25th 2008 2:46PM
To quote Jameson in Spiderman 1 "I resent that! Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel."
andyg8180 @ Jan 25th 2008 3:25PM
@Neversage - To quote Happy Gilmore, "green jacket, gold jacket, who gives a shit" lol... same difference...
NeverSage @ Jan 25th 2008 3:43PM
@andyg8180
Haha! Touché
Altairio @ Jan 25th 2008 2:01PM
EA: This isn't a legal threat, it is an appeal to your sense of fairness.
Fox News: Why don't you come on our show to discuss this?
EA: Now this is a legal threat.
DarkTetsuya @ Jan 25th 2008 5:29PM
FAUX has a sense of fairness?
Oh, wait.
Chameleon @ Jan 26th 2008 11:36AM
@altairio
great avatar, even better post ....
mcatrage @ Jan 25th 2008 2:05PM
I think EA knows a trap when they see one. I'm sure when they heard the title of the segment they knew there was know point in going.
Zorink @ Jan 25th 2008 5:06PM
You don't have to be Admiral Ackbar to realize that.
james.bonkowski @ Jan 25th 2008 2:05PM
I think you guys need to stop turning this into an indictment against Fox News. Lots of news outlets produced uninformed reports on Mass Effect. Fox had a stupid segment about it, but they brought on a game journalist that made the crazy lady look, well crazy. Seriously I don’t think anyone has a “bias” against Mass Effects. CNN put on Jack Thomson, doesn't mean they are "BIAS AGAINST GAMES MAN!". Anyway, I’m just saying lots of people have irrational hate of Fox News and can't wait to share it, so if you’re going to go off the handle, at least do it on a legit topic.
T3H WICKERMAN (TMNT DF) (BWF) @ Jan 25th 2008 2:06PM
no
baby sea tuna @ Jan 25th 2008 2:14PM
Nope. All that hate? Totally rational.
GRANTED @ Jan 25th 2008 2:27PM
fox news is an entertainment program especially designed to sir controversy, brew fear, and promote a culture of social and political conservatism. they revel in a culture of ignorance and misinformation, and promote the idea that the last word in the conversation--their word--is the right word.
it's about time the public had the last word, and that's what we are doing, so stop being a fox news homer and stand up for informed discussion. if that means slandering the slanderer, well excuse my hypocrisy but i'm all for it. i fucking hate the fox network.
J @ Jan 25th 2008 2:31PM
Irrational hate of Fox News? Are you kidding?
They also just reported that Bush is thinking of his presidency in terms of Lincoln... And that Lincoln, too left his presidency as unpopular as Bush is... well guess what: Lincoln was assassinated right after winning the popular vote.
And that's just one example (today). They revise history to suit their political ideology (Republican) on the regular.
Give me a break... "irrational".
opnickc @ Jan 25th 2008 7:27PM
"They revise history to suit their political ideology (Republican) on the regular. "
Oh god, please don't call those idiot neocons part of the Republican ideology. They call themselves Republican, but they are not deserving of the title.
You can call them Republicans if you must, simply because they've somehow taken most of the party, but please don't say it's their ideology. The Republican ideology and that of the neocons is completely incompatible.
Vegnagun bwf @ Jan 25th 2008 7:54PM
So your saying that it's alright if they slander a company, botch the facts to a hilarious degree, and act like ignorant pricks?
whatever @ Jan 25th 2008 8:13PM
opnickc,
I agree. Even though I'm not a Republican, but I have respect for them, because they believe in something and honest about it. The neocons are something else, self-serving bastards. Neocons have hijacked the Republican party...what a pity.
Batzarro @ Jan 25th 2008 10:09PM
Which ones? Present your evidence!
Korova @ Jan 25th 2008 2:07PM
Why does EA have to actually show up at Fox and do their fact-checking work for them?
This is ridiculous. Fox is saying that unless someone shows up, they are absolutely not going to do any research on the things they air. Ok, but dont call yourself a NEWS channel. A Jerry Springer channel, maybe.
Danny Champlin @ Jan 25th 2008 2:08PM
So what? Just because Fox offered them air time, doesn't mean it's EA's responsibility to come on. It's Fox's responsibility to not tell blatant lies. And if they make "mistakes", they need to own up to them.
The way I see it, Fox news is simply stirring up drama, and trying to get EA tangled in it. Fox needs to correct their lies, and be done with it.
Sarge @ Jan 25th 2008 2:08PM
Hey, look, it's all the Fox News haters again!
I'm waiting for this same outcry when the other networks inevitably run this type of story. Again.
It does look bad when EA won't send a representative out to set the record straight. It makes it look like they have something to hide, and they DON'T, in this case.
Corbo @ Jan 25th 2008 2:24PM
The whole point of EA's argument is that Fox screwed up badly and that they should have to apologise. If you were going to try to make that statement in public, would you really want Fox to be the ones in charge of the editing and broadcast of it?
If EA sent someone to debate the point, I personally think it would make it seem like they were on the defensive, which they shouldn't be.
Trickob @ Jan 25th 2008 2:26PM
fox news hater = anyone left of the moderate right
in other words, the only people i know or have heard of who watch fox news on purpose are far right conservatives (ie: old people and religious zealots)
dm @ Jan 25th 2008 6:55PM
@Trickob
I'm a moderate, in my late twenties, and I often watch Fox News. Don't make accusations on their viewership unless you have solid proof they're all old religious far-right conservatives.
And by proof I mean stuff that isn't spoon-fed to you by radical-leftist blogs.
Trickob @ Jan 26th 2008 3:07AM
my assumptions (and yes, i know what happens when you assume) are based on my own observations. never read a leftist blog myself (unless you're counting joystiq??)
also, i said old people AND religious zealots. as an athiest myself, i pretty much consider anyone who goes to church (or "temple" in the case of mormons) and votes republican to be a religious zealot so if you go to church, you fit the bill. if not, then you're the first person i've heard of who watches fox news on purpose that breaks the mold. congratulations
at any rate, its just a broad generalization that i'm making and i wouldn't take it too seriously
Trickob @ Jan 26th 2008 3:26AM
my assumptions (and yes, i know what happens when you assume) are based on my own observations ("people i know or heard of"). never read a leftist blog myself (unless you're counting joystiq??)
also, i said old people AND religious zealots. as an atheist, i consider anyone who goes to church (or "temple" in the case of mormons) and votes republican to be a religious zealot. (that's just MY opinion, thank you) so if you, corbo, go to church, then you fit the bill. if not, then you're the first person i've "heard of" who watches fox news who breaks the mold. congratulations
at any rate, i'm just being snarky by making broad generalizations and i wouldn't take me too seriously