Wii tie ratio 8:1 in December, still trailing life-to-date
by Ross Miller 
{ Jan 25th 2008 at 8:50AM }
It should be noted that the 8.11 statistic doesn't reflect the overall tie ratio -- if 7 people who already owned a Wii bought Mario Galaxy and an eighth person bought Galaxy and a Wii, the figure still holds -- but it does boost the console's life-to-date tie ratio, now resting at 4.64.
The tie ratio for PlayStation 3 was 5.04 in December and 4.24 life-to-date, while the Xbox 360, with one year ahead of its predecessors, still holds the dominant position with 7.76 in December and 7.0 overall.
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playwhutyalike @ Jan 25th 2008 8:59AM
I smells a flame war a comin'.
Imadogg @ Jan 25th 2008 9:02AM
*puts on flame retardant cotton*
WiNG @ Jan 25th 2008 9:08AM
*puts on 'tard retardant cotton*
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 9:09AM
Oh its coming allright, lol!
I was at TRU doing my Christmas shopping and I saw so many moms buying up so many Wii shovelware titles on the cheap it was rediculous. NO LIE! Anyway I doubt that the numbers will be like that again...seriously people!
ThornedVenom @ Jan 25th 2008 9:42AM
*puts on flame-cottoned retard
playwhutyalike @ Jan 25th 2008 11:01AM
*puts on flaming retarded cotton* You know, for a nice slow burn.
Korova @ Jan 25th 2008 12:17PM
flames on a cottoned putts retard
Wilhelm @ Jan 25th 2008 5:51PM
puts on a... STFU!
samfish @ Jan 25th 2008 9:03AM
I guess that's one more anti-Wii talking point that's dead.
FidliousWong @ Jan 25th 2008 9:08AM
Kinda, I'm really curious how much of these sales were shovelware products. I mean, we all know Carnival Games did well. I've also personally seen a lot of games sold on Wii just because they were in the bins at $20.
That's the stat I want to know.
But it is nice that software is selling.
Co @ Jan 25th 2008 9:12AM
ok FidliousWong, under your logic: I wonder how many of 360s tie in sales are Halo 3. Period.
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 9:18AM
Fidlious my friend you hit it right on the $$
The majority of Wii owners are under 10. I know peeps in here will disagree with that but its true. The Wii is a kid system targeted at kids with kid games. Which is why Nintendo allows all this shovelware to be dev on it. On the cheap too. Nintendo shovelware buying moms know little Timmy wont know the difference, they dont give a crap...its a new game with shiny shrinkwrap and waggle FTW =) In their eyes of course.
Co @ Jan 25th 2008 9:41AM
lmao @ xFenixKnightx. The Wii is a kids system targeted at kids. wow. Sounds like someones HATIN!!! I guess me and all my friends in their mid to late 20's missed the memo on that one.
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 9:55AM
@ Co
I wasnt "hatin"...lmao @ YOU for using that word. Anyway just be quiet I speaketh the truth buddy.
The average Wii owner is 10 or younger.
PS
I own a Wii also and Im 28
NATO_Duke @ Jan 25th 2008 9:58AM
"ok FidliousWong, under your logic: I wonder how many of 360s tie in sales are Halo 3. Period."
Co, are you thinking that there are people buying 7 copies of Halo 3 or something?
The attach rates on games for the 360 is higher because of the large library - not because of one title. My personal library of 360 games is much larger than my Wii and PS3 libraries.
I imagine that is partially because of the amount of games on the 360 vs the others, the lack of good titles to buy on the Wii (Many, NOT ALL, are shovelware), the lack of exclusive PS3 titles beyond a couple, the head start the 360 had in our house as well as others, and the fact that once I began building a 360 library it seemed to make sense to keep buying for it as multiplatform games were released.
In my house the 360 attach rate will stay much higher than that for the other systems I would think. That head start that the 360 had really makes a huge difference in houses with more than 1 console. In my house at least.
ssuk @ Jan 25th 2008 10:09AM
The Wii, actually follows on from the DS, being a console targeting and marketed for a wide range of people, young people and AOPs. Thus, Co is an ill-informed troll.
Vidikron (FU) @ Jan 25th 2008 10:28AM
Crap games and good games seem to sell on the Wii. I mean, look at those top 3 games. One is very good, the other two not so much... and one the lesser two is really just hardware sales inflating software numbers. But, whatever, I'm not buying any of the crap games myself. Congrats to Nintendo for effectively shoveling shovelware out the door.
Co @ Jan 25th 2008 10:41AM
ssuk, if you recall (i.e. scroll up a few comments), I am the one pointing out how the system is NOT geared at just kids. Ill-informed you are, sir.
Slaziman @ Jan 25th 2008 1:07PM
Remember that due to shortages a lot of retailers sold crappy bundles.
Co @ Jan 25th 2008 9:03AM
This trend will continue.
ThornedVenom @ Jan 25th 2008 9:43AM
Trend is a fancy word for fad. ;P
Delgado @ Jan 25th 2008 1:37PM
"Co" is one in the same as that "Lil co" troll that everyone hated.
Don't give him the time of day.
Oh, and here is his Myspace.
http://www.myspace.com/lilco
Imadogg @ Jan 25th 2008 9:05AM
I must say I am impressed with the numbers for every console. Even the PS3. Not bad at all.
dan stabbingworth @ Jan 25th 2008 10:44AM
I was surprised to see that I had bought 8 360 games in the last year (all new), as opposed to the 25 games I bought in the entire PS2 life cycle (probably 75% used).
mike @ Jan 25th 2008 9:05AM
to add to the flames: These numbers are actually much lower then you think when you consider around 40% of the ratio comes from wii play, which people are really buying for the controller that comes with it. I bought one for my brother for xmas because it was on sale and cheaper then an actual wimote.
In my eyes, ill consider them around a 5:1 ratio (assuming a marginal ammount of people actually bought wii play for the game alone)
Max Headroom @ Jan 25th 2008 9:47AM
Even if you don't count Wii Play at all, the Wii tie ratio is still 7.31 in December, according my calculations.
playwhutyalike @ Jan 25th 2008 9:06AM
Wow, everybody is playing nice thus far. Unless something gets in between me and Imadogg.
Imadogg @ Jan 25th 2008 4:48PM
I'm surprised too, even still it hasn't gone down to poop comments
playwhutyalike @ Jan 25th 2008 5:25PM
You want the poop? You couldn't handle the poop!
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 9:11AM
Sarcasm FTW? Right? Please? Your joking right?
lolz
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 9:12AM
Sorry this was meant to be a reply to Co
FUDGE!!!
KushielsScion007 @ Jan 25th 2008 9:14AM
But its just a fad you guys...
jsn @ Jan 25th 2008 9:18AM
Most of these have got to be these bargain mini game collections. The Wii hardly has 8 games worth buying and I've seen many places selling bundles with these non-nintendo bargain titles where they advertise it as A Wii with 12 games for $399. It ends up being Wiisports and two other non-nintendo, hack compilation discs.
Kamalot @ Jan 25th 2008 9:33AM
There aren't 8 games worth buying?
No More Heroes
Zack & Wiki
Super Mario Galaxy
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Resident Evil 4
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Super Paper Mario
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Geometry Wars: Galaxies
Mario Strikers
Fire Emblem
Godfather: Blackhand Edition
Mercury Meltdown Revolution
Trauma Center: New Blood
I have all three systems, and the Wii has more worthwhile games for my time than the PS3 does. Plus it costs a lot less.
Your mileage may vary
Boostjunkie @ Jan 25th 2008 9:37AM
I think you just proved his point.
KushielsScion007 @ Jan 25th 2008 9:41AM
Naw I think he just owned jsn...
The Wii has a lot of games that maybe "hardcore" gamers don't care about but guess what there are billions of people who enjoy games just for the sake of fun and the Wii is all they need to have fun.
You can't just dismiss the list of games that were listed because they're not all FPS or they're not Final Fantasy some other famous RPG that sony fanboys are obsessed with.
Bottom line is that unlike the ps3 the Wii has games for everyone and is selling well both in terms of software and hardware. And that just drives you sony fanboys insane.
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 9:42AM
@Kamalot
Dont try and make that list longer than it should be. These are the only worthwile games worthy of purchasing on the Wii for the overall mass consumer.
Super Mario Galaxy
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Resident Evil 4
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Super Paper Mario
Madden 08
Medal of Honor Heroes
Now shutty!!
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 9:45AM
Oh and Guitar Hero 3 lol, wait a minute. Maybe there is a goo...nah nevermind.
LMAO!!
NATO_Duke @ Jan 25th 2008 10:03AM
I'm with Fenix on this one - that list of yours Kamalot is way way too forgiving. Those games are not all special must haves.
(And from the posts around here by KushielsScion007 as of late - I can't even take it seriously when you say someone got owned.)
bm @ Jan 25th 2008 10:30AM
"These are the only worthwile games worthy of purchasing on the Wii for the overall mass consumer."
Hahaha what? Wait a second, now it's what's worth buying for the mass consumer that counts? Well of course, by that criteria you wouldn't list zack & wiki or any of the other good ones you scrapped.
Come on, grasping at straws much? Besides, by that criteria your list would be HUGE, filled with casual games that you people love to hate the Wii for.
This is getting a little silly, kids. The Wii is selling well, and it also has games. Get the hell over it.
Co @ Jan 25th 2008 11:12AM
xFenixKnightx, you are the Fernando of 360 fanboys. Just because you claim to own another console, even if you DO own another console, doesn't negate you're being a taint. Lol, when i read one of your comments, I get this image in my head of a 13 year old shouting obscenities thru Xbox Live on (fill in the blank) FPS or some shit.
Noshino @ Jan 25th 2008 11:17AM
actually Kamalot
No More Heroes
Zack & Wiki
Super Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Super Paper Mario
Fire Emblem
Godfather: Blackhand Edition
Mercury Meltdown Revolution
Trauma Center: New Blood
That is the actual list of games worth buying
These 2 are available for NGC, and I can't deny that some might like the Wii controller, but many have also enjoyed these 2 using a NGC controller...
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Resident Evil 4
Hardcore? WarioWare? aer you serious?
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
This was supposed to Nintendo's big online hit, I guess it failed at it...let's just say that it became Nintendo's Lair
Mario Strikers
Noshino @ Jan 25th 2008 11:22AM
Co,
"xFenixKnightx, you are the Fernando of 360 fanboys. Just because you claim to own another console, even if you DO own another console, doesn't negate you're being a taint. Lol, when i read one of your comments, I get this image in my head of a 13 year old shouting obscenities thru Xbox Live on (fill in the blank) FPS or some shit."
Doesn't the same apply to you but with a Nintendo reference? and for the record, he does have a PS3, I don't know about a Wii...and I think you only own a Wii, so I think your bashing is quite impartial...
Co @ Jan 25th 2008 11:29AM
his comments in this thread ALONE dont amount to mine TOTAL. He is alomst upset that this story is reported. How can I be the Fernando of Wii Fanboys when Fernando is? ;) anyways yes I am a self proclaimed Wiifanboy, but do not troll. Hell I've never even been on Xboxfanboy or PS3fanboy.
Now, I do share the common view of microsoft corp. is an evil p.o.s., but who here doesn't feel that way? Even die hard 360 owners hate the corporation.
jsn @ Jan 25th 2008 11:33AM
KushielsScion007: I got owned because my opinion of their games differs from yours? please.. Sad thing for me is that I actually own a lot of those games and after the first two hours of play they were worthless to me. They have no long term value at all, TO ME. I'm not one of these people that will jerk off to anything nintendo throws out with a "classic character" in the game, unlike you. So if you want to talk owned, remove your Princess Peach mask and look in the mirror!
Zelda was boring to me, Metroid did nothing for me, mario olympics, Mario strykers, fire emblem? please. Warioware was trash, Wiiplay was trash. I enjoyed the trauma center games for two hours, but they got boring. Resident Evil was great, but it was a retread from the GC. I didn't need to buy a Wii for that. The only games for the Wii that I can legit call great is Wiisports and Mario Galaxy. Naturally the Madden and CoD games are going to be good because they're a good series, but the Wii has very little to do with why they're great. All they had to do was not screw them up and they'd be considered great. Oh I also enjoyed rayman as a party game, but beyond that it doesn't offer much. Cooking Mama was also good for a few hours, but a monkey could ace that game.
I like to be challenged by my games and Wiisports sold the promise of a challange different from anything to come before it. So far NO OTHER GAME has even attempted to meet that challenge, much less surpass it. Nintendo scammed everyone with their "graphics isn't everything" nonsense and has failed to follow up on it. Hell now they're even cranking out games that admittedly are better played with a traditional gamepad and some of you are lapping it up. Happy to have paid $250 for a new console and a bunch of mediocre, unchallenging games so you can play something that could have been done just as well on a $99 GC or simply to jerk off to their "classic charcters".
Noshino @ Jan 25th 2008 11:34AM
"Even die hard 360 owners hate the corporation."
oh, you have NO idea...you should visit a few XBOX fansites (including XBOX360fanboy.com), they believe Microsoft are saints...(but then again, almost all fanboy sites do the same with their respective corporations...)
xFenixKnightx @ Jan 25th 2008 11:54AM
Co.
Your an idiot, I have all 3 consoles. 360 is still hands down the best OVERALL gaming experience.
I get all my 360 exclusives and all my multiplats for it. Oh yeah Fernando does own a 360, hes actually on my friends list..cool guy =)
I do enjoy alot of PS3 exclusives though like Resistance, Uncharted DF, Motorstorm, Warhawk, waiting for Haze, Killszone 2, Resistance 2, LBP, Home, better online =)
As for the Wii...
I like own SMG, Metroid P, gonna buy Zelda and Im waiting for MarioKart ;)
Xbox360>PS3>Wii
Like it or not Fantard
NATO_Duke @ Jan 25th 2008 11:59AM
Yeah, I gotta say, Fernando really doesn't deserve the shit he is given around here. I see people lying about what games they play then "reviewing" them, and making some real dumbass comments about people without any fury raised - yet god forbid Fernando give his opinion about things. C'mon - pic a new target.
TwEE @ Jan 25th 2008 12:07PM
Fight the wii guys, this is the most important thing you guys will ever do.
Synner @ Jan 25th 2008 2:52PM
The problem I have with fernando is how he tends to post the EXACT same fucking post in 15 threads on one day. Nothing like reading a PS3 article to see fernando having the same almost word for word post that he already posted into every other article you read that day.
Sometimes his post is even relevant to the article, but most times not.