Smaller Blu-ray laser could reduce PS3 production costs

How about Sony focusing on some software as opposed to creating new skus, dropping features, changing hardware, etc.

It doesn't matter how many great games there may be, if the console is too expensive, it won't sell.

Yeah, this would be my expecation as well.

there not going to drop the price not yet any ways there waiting to make back some money theve lost already

care?

Well that was pretty obvious.

I must say, I wouldn't buy it if the priced dropped either. I would buy it if they had more games for the bloody thing! I wanted a new Playstation, not a bloody blu-ray player!

Thanks god I was worried about you thinking on buying the PS3!

Do you really think after the "hd war" normal dvds will be replaced that quickly?

I'm done with discs. Looking forward to downloading and streaming digital content on demand.

I never said that I expect DVD to die. I implied that I want an HD format for my 42-inch television. My personal opinion regarding everything be download based is that it won't happen. People like the physical part of ownership, they want something to hold in their hands for $19.99 or more. Downloads are good for demos, trailers, and some songs. But if I have a movie that I want to watch and KEEP and not rent then I want the physical disc.

Kind of like how no one uses digital music services like iTunes, huh?

Digital distribution is the future of all entertainment media. It's just a matter of time before the bandwidth exists to make it not just easier, but better.

Grog, I really hate to say this because you've apparently thought the whole digital distribution arguement out very well. iTunes has indeed become an indicator of the future. Sadly, not everyone is ready to jump into the future. This is why 5:1 CDs didn't sell well and why CD sales, despite the claims the RIAA need to make in court (which is also, according to their latest claim, burning music purchased in iTunes onto a CD is stealing music as well), are still a major force. Otherwise, Best Buy would not have aisles and aisles of the shit.

Also, you forget, digital distribution sacrifices quality for convenience. Yes, that music you buy off iTunes will NEVER sound as good as a CD... but you're listening off a fucking iPod anyway, not like you could tell a difference.

Look, we all want to believe in this magical world of digital distribution being the method of delivery. I certainly enjoy the idea of never actually owning what I buy as much as the next man, but physical media is not going anywhere. We've been hearing this arguement since the birth of the net yet physical media is just as strong as ever. So yes, the war for the next generation of physical media will be important since there are many, like myself, who enjoy the idea of "owning" the stuff we purchase. I know, strange concept...

If you want a real discussion on the issue, Slashdot is a better locale than Joystiq. ;)

Like I said, it's the future. I didn't say it is the present. As of right now, based on the bandwidth scarcity I briefly mentioned, quality isn't there yet (for the most part). The numbers aren't there yet either, since it's a relatively new concept... but they're growing. You mention how CD and DVD sales are still vastly greater. That's true, but it ignores the fact that they have decreased (for CDs) or slowed growth (for DVDs) since the advent of iTunes and its competitors.

Oh, and you like to own stuff you bought? Too bad, since the RIAA doesn't think you own the stuff on those CDs and software companies think the same thing. The fact of the matter is that our legal system currently has us licensing (rather than owning) pretty much everything digital that you "own."

Personally, I'm a big fan of digital distribution for a number of reasons. First, it's easier. I don't have to drive my 1.5 ton car a few miles to pick up a half-ounce CD which contains 12 songs - 11 of which I don't want. It also gives a lot more versatility (at least once you have DRM out of the way) by allowing easy playback on a number of devices and easy movement from one to the next. Yes, I own an iPod - I opened up a checking account with $25 to get a free one and then promptly closed it. It's handy for when I'm at the gym, but I can also plug it into my car's auxiliary port on the sound system. I can also listen to songs on my laptop, desktop, or through my TV. Meanwhile, I have a CD tower stuffed with CDs I never touch... I'm so glad that I have those lying around. :eyeroll:

Actually If you picked up he economist for January, Cd sales are not high at all digital distribution has already killed out the music CD. There is a brilliant write up on it, on how record companies are going under and selling off what they can. Madonna left her label to sign with a concert promoter radio head put their album directly on to the net.

The magazine makes a point to say those are cases of successful bands doing something different but the fact is the CD does not bring in money to the record companies any more. The name of the article is the "The music Industry goes flat" magazine "The Economist" January 12-18th I have a subscription so it is easier for me to obtain, but yes Digital distribution is around the corner.

The biggest contributor to the CD death, was Itunes and guess what they just went into? Digital distribution of movies. They even had a Fox rep at Steve Jobs key note trying to sell a DVD you could hear in his voice the hope that digital distribution doesn't bite him in the ass. I have a feeling even if blu-ray or HD DVD takes off it won't matter because people will be dling their movies.

There was a discussion like that a while ago

Personally, i agree. PS3 looks ugly horizontally, while it looks incredibly sleek and powerful vertically

Odd how position makes a difference

I always thought the PS3 was fugly and bloated. It already looks dated.

Looks like a mini convention center.

Upright it looks like it should be surrounded by awe-struck apes.

Sideways, I suddenly feel the need to grill some burgers.

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Cheat_Commandos

keep dreaming

Dreams can become reality if you're ready to contribute the sweat of your brow...

But, don't you realize, the man in Washington says the consoles belong to the poor. The Kremlin says the consoles belong to the people. The Vatican says the consoles belong to God. We don't deserve consoles.

Would you kindly price drop the PS3?

What you said is the exact opposite of what your link says. Sony is ditching the 80GB because it's not selling, which means that the 40GB is probably on the outer edge of reason for most people's budgets.

hey Grog, you should at least attempt to read the whole article

"UPDATE 2: Well, this is interesting. We just heard from The NPD Group who told us, "In the last quarter (when both were on the market), the 80GB sold more units than the 40GB." When pressed for a more exact breakdown of the sales data between the two SKUs, NPD said they could not provide that. It's certainly a surprise to us, however, that the more expensive 80GB would have sold more than 40GB, which many have attributed the PS3 sales spike to."

Mea culpa.

I just figured that the subject and the first few sentences were enough to contradict. I admit I didn't bother reading the whole thing, since it seemed an open and close case.

I'm curious as to why he thinks 80GB sales being greater than 40GB sales somehow puts the 360 in a bad position though.

I don't see it as a bad thing. It is more likely that the consumers are overestimating their desire for backwards compatibility when in reality it isn't a terribly important feature. That or the 80gb model had a game pre-packed into it, giving it an impression of a better bargain.

I'm sure they'll be feeling silly when Sony releases a full software emulator like they'll most likely do.

err, "Money that IS saved"

Not saying you are wrong or right I think I see where you are going, but link the other story, about the Xbox360 HD-Dvd rumor.