Sony claims PS3 success over the 360

Honestly I want to see some stats on PS3 vs. PS3 game sales, just to see how many PS3's are bought mainly just for Blu-Ray players.

uhhhhh yeah ....right

Worldwide the PS3 has been doing just as well if not a bit better than the 360 (thanks to Japan and some very pro-Playstation European countries), so Stringer does have a point. However, Sony still has a lot of catching up to do and it would be foolish to assume that MS won't try to win over as much of the European market as possible in the near future.

Probably talking in terms of percentage increase over christmas - hell, anything would be a win for sony!

Sony nation has lost their minds.. they nuts or what?

The guy must be delusional. The PS3 probably won't overtake the 360 for a few years... and then we'll be gearing up for the next 360, or as I'd like to think we'll call it: XXXBOX. :)

You guys should be doing look into it, the playstation has been out selling the xbox world wide from November on. It seems a bit hard for most of you to swallow but it's the truth, and 08 is the year for the playstation, any game that come out for the 360 is either going to get eclipsed by a playstation exclusive or be on the playstation it's self. the 360 has in fact lost steam. Sorry fanboys.

seriously guys calm down ok its not the end of the world.

What's to day? April Fools. Cus that seams like the biggest joke around. LMAO. ROF.

The sooner you wake up to realize this console vs. console stuff is innanely stupid, the happier you'll be. So Sony is playing with the facts in some instantly forgettable PR piece. So what. MS has done it too. End of story.

US is not THE WORLD.
PS3 is very strong here in EU because people can clearly see that longterm investment in a 360 is waste of money.
I love a few 360 games + a lot of the arcade games but it seems that most new games (even some EA games) runs better on PS3 than 360 so I buy new games for my PS3 rather than for my 2 360's.
Remember to subtract 33% of the 360 sales since those are just replacements of RROD. 17M * 2/3 = 11M. So PS3 is not doing soooo bad with 8M. Soon it will "take over" which really means nothing as long as there are great games for all platforms.
I have 12 games for my 360 (only playing 3 of them) and 8 for PS3 (playing 6 of them).
This year I plan to buy Fable2 and 1-2 more 360 titles but some 12 titles for PS3. Only buying games that are specifically made to utilize that specific system being it 360 or PS3. Both are GREAT "nextgen" systems. Of course EA are selling mainly for 360 because they don't do real development for PS3, only crappy porting. Only multiplatform game I might buy is Devil May Cry, it seems to have a great design on both platforms. Havn't decided which system to buy it for though.
The first 360 year was TERRIBLE. Absolutely nothing amazing to play, just a few fun to play games (PGR3 and PDZ). The first half PS3 year was TERRIBLE with only Motorstorm and RFOM. It's always like that the first year. The first year of PS2 was also terrible!

Sony will win in Jap and EU whereas the US will probably be a tie.
Taking WII into the "nextgen" is just silly because it's NOT "nextgen" but an average gaming platform with a few GREAT FUN games at very low cost.

Efeez1986 said...
"Thank you, it's nice to see some intelligent posts here on xbox fanboy, instead of the same fanboy crap i always come across on this site."

Pot! Come here and meet Kettle!

Look at this Tool Bags profile for some "intelligent" posts on xbox fanboy.

While competition is a good thing, it would be better if said competition were any other company atm imho. I dont personally view Sony as competition anymore in anything other than brand recognition, as that and BluRay (movies) are about the only things going well with the PS3 (Yes a few games too, but the 3D0, Jaguar, NeoGeo and Dreamcast also had those).

You know Henrik, you just touched on a point I love. I just adore it when Sony fanboys come out preaching about (imaginary) numbers that they literally pulled freshly from their rears to post up. Dont expect to get any credibility by doing such things.

PS3 is besting 360 everywhere except America. Thats what he's talking about. Not just Japan. Please research a bit more before you post a flamebait topic like this. He also stated PS3 will pass 360 in sales by summer 2008 which looks to be true if you look at sales. It will be a lot longer before PS3 passes 360 here in the US, if at all.

According to vgchartz under the worldwide weekly chart last week was the 16th week the PS3 has beaten the 360.So I would say its catching up.


No I don't own a 360 but I am planning on buying 1 to complete the ultimate- Wii-360-PS3-DS-PSP hybrid!
Also I think its hilarious that people come to this website:360fanboy.com and are complaining about the fanboyism here.

I just bought a PS3 2 weeks ago and I'm almost ashamed to admit it. It's a nice movie player but I really don't see it as any competition to the 360, since the 360 is made for games and the PS3 is made to play movies.

the ps3 overtaking the xb360 in sales was inevitable just like the day of judgement. it was known by many who knew the true capabilities of both systems that this would happen. xbox360 owners , you have my condolences, and oh yeah, no more hddvds available production will be stopped globally by june 2008, ha ha

the ps3 overtaking the xb360 in sales was inevitable just like the day of judgement. it was known by many who knew the true capabilities of both systems that this would happen. xbox360 owners , you have my condolences, and oh yeah, no more hddvds available production will be stopped globally by june 2008, does this mean the end of x360? i mean will it die out like its older brother the xbox, what is going 2 happen lets just wait and see.

Knight why doesnt it hold water? We all know that a years head start with no other competition is a huge advantage. The wii is selling so well because of the price and its draw of the casual crowd. What excuse do you have for the ps3 outselling the 360 on a week to week basis? Sony's ps3 has only been out 1year and 3 months and has already sold 10.5 million... Chew on that number for a bit.

5 Reasons why sony has already bagged this gen:

Apparently there remain a few delusions, the most silly being that Microsoft is even a threat to Sonys gaming industry hegemony. Well, I don't post often, but I'm going to give my opinion here: Sony has bagged not only this generation, but the next as well - if Nintendo are stupid. I'll get to the 'next gen' points later. You see, on the whole, Sony has been playing strategically, whereas Microsoft and Nintendo have been playing tactically. I'll lay out my points:

1) Games.

The FUD train clings desperately to a myth, that myth being that there are no, and will never be any 'games' on the PS3. Obviously, this is not true. First of all, a list of games for 2008 - Motorstorm 2, Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Metal Gear Solid Online ... well, you all know 'the list'. Something else that needs to be talked about, however, is 2009 and beyond. Hideo Kojima understanbly doesn't want to hang around Metal Gear Solid forever, but one thing he still remains is a games developer. Whatever his next project will be will be at least PS3-orientated, but probably PS3 exclusive. Add to that the strong possibility of Rockstar returning to the Playstation.

Or to put it another way - we have as much idea right now what to expect as we did early in the PS2's life. When I first bought my PS2, I would have laughed at the man who told me in detail about GTA: San Andreas. I wouldn't have believed a word of it,

2) BD-Rom I (As a storage format)

Its no coincidence that the PS1 and PS2 both had monstrous successes while at the same time insisting on advanced mediums. Back in the 1990's, Square defected to Sony because of CD's. The fact of the matter is that storage space is integral to the advancement of gaming. It always has been, and it always will be. By 2010, 2011... developers will be making full use of Blu-Ray disc as a medium. Whatever won't fit on the disc, will surely fit on the HDD. Any console that wishes to stay in the race at this point must offer capacity, either in the form of a HDD or stock disc. There is no way around this. The only system which will offer not one, buth both - will be the PS3.

Lets use the eventual sequel to GTA IV as an example. Where is Rockstar going to develop this game? On all systems? Certainly not the Wii. On the Xbox 360? Doubtful. I simply cannot see GTA 5 fitting on DVD9. Especially when there is no HDD as standard to back up its monstrous size. By then, the 360 will also be lagging install-base wise behind the PS3. Rockstar will go to the machine with capacity, reliability and install base.

In Europe, the PS3 isn't yet even one year old, yet Kojima is already complaining about disc space. This is a ten year machine, to think that disc space won't be critical in 5-6 years is lunacy.

3) BD-Rom II (As a movie format)

Its no secret what DVD movies did for the PS2. Quite simply, Blu-Ray will do the same for the PS3. A little history lesson - people bought a PS2 early on in large part because of DVD (The fact it was a Playstation didn't hurt). In other words, DVD was the PS2's 'Wii effect'. The PS2 ended up in the homes of people who had never had an interest in games. Thus, 2 weeks after buying a DVD player, a 40 year old suddenly discovers it can play games. He finds this title called 'Metal Gear Solid: Sons of Liberty' and suddenly is taking days off work. The entire thing snowballs.

It is no different here, just repeat the process. Of course, there are a lot of people saying Digital Distribution will kill off Blu-Ray. This is not true - first of all, Blu-Ray needs 18 Months-3 years max to move itself into a dominant position, an irreversible position. In comparison - Digital Distribution is at least 5 years away, simply because thats how long it'll be before all markets have the internet speeds capable of deliveriing HD movies conveniently. A full-quality Blu-Ray movie will take around 20gigs of space. To download that would personally take me days, and I have broadband. By comparison, I can go to Blockbuster and rent one in the space on ten minutes, probably for the same price. Even if 30% of the Western Market somehow manages to have lightning speeds capable of downloading such massive files inside half an hour by 2010, its still not enough. Studios won't fully back it untill it reaches at least 70%.

There can now be no disputing that Blu-Ray is the successor to DVD. There can also be no disputing that HD is tangible, it is not a fad. How long before 1080i is the prominent broadcast resolution? Its funny, that HD-DVD/360 fanboys fully accepted this - at one point, but I digress. Those who laughed at Sony in 2005 even right up to this day about BD-Rom have about as much foresight as a Goldfish and must have slept through the annihilation the PS2 dished out to its rivals with the assistance of DVD.

4) Online functionality.

Theres no denying it - and I don't want to overtly sound like a 'fanboy' - the PSN has achieved 80% in just over a year of what Xbox Live took many more years to pull off. Its also doing it for free. Without ads. As that other myth goes - the PSN is lightyears behind Live. What does Live offer that is so much more? By the years end, the PSN will have filled out that remaining 20%. In-Game XMB, Home, Accomplishments etc. In 2009 and beyond I predict that the PSN will be the staple for online gaming. I predict that user created content, online stability, interactivity and a profusely mutated Home will silence all critics.

I preditc that it will lure PS2 users out of their slumber, and grow in userbase beyond what Live has. Developers will not be able to ignore it. Maps, content and patches will eventually appear on the PSN first. They'll start developing with the PSN in mind, both because of its growth and install base.

I also don't think what Home will turn into can be underestimated. I personally have a feeling that Home will take over even the PSN itself, where Home was once an addon, it is now the standard. I.e. everything and anything that connects to the net will be launched through it. The web browser, the PSN Store - I think that Home will turn into an utter Monster.

5) No competition.

Thats right, no competition. The Wii has effectively created its own market. Its not quite a handheld, yet its not quite a 'main system' either. You'll never see Metal Gear Solid, or GTA on the Wii. The 360 is not a threat to the PS3. Any 'threat' it ever did pose has came and gone and has proven to be nothing more than hot air. In order for the 360 to reasonably take on the PS3, it had to gain massive leads by the end of 2007. It had to steal vast amounts of Sonys massive PS2 reserve install base. Even then, on top of this, it needed the PS3 to suffer some spectacular stumbles, it needed HD-DVD to defeat Blu-Ray and it needed to satisfy all the customers it gained. Then, and only then - did Microsoft have even a 'chance' of derailing the PS3. It needed a lead of at least 15-20 Million.

What has happened, however, was that the 360 failed to poach any real amount of the PS2 install base. Indeed, throughout the critical period, the PS2 even outsold the 360. HD-DVD also failed, earlier than anyone would have expected as well. The 360 sold worse in 2007 than in 2006 despite having a better lineup for 2007. This was in all probability due to the last point - failure to satisfy what customers it did have. Not only was the machine unreliable, leaving them unhappy - it was unrealiable to the point of scaring people away. A 33% death rate is unheard of, and while the 360 may be getting away with it publicity-wise now, it should prove to be the 'Cause of death' tag for the machine. Meanwhile, that other pre-requisite for MS, that is, a stumbling PS3 - didn't come to pass either. Blu-Ray has been successful and the PS3 outsold the 360 in 2007, despite 2007 being the best year the 360 will ever have (Halo 3 won't happen again, for example). Meanwhile, 2007 was by all accounts probably the weakest year the PS3 will ever have, discounting 2006.

The highway competition-wise is Sonys from here on out. The gap is closing and will soon be a distant memory. Microsofts pre-emptive manouevre has failed. Microsoft can now do one of two things, both of which will not work due to the timing and history of the 360:

a) Keep the 360 alive for as long as the PS3 stays popular, this will be 2011 and/or beyond. By doing this, by then the PS3 will have found its stride, its power will have been unlocked, its PS2 fans will have returned by the dozens of millions and devs will be fighting for a spot on it. Blu-Ray will be next to essential for the latest GTA's etc. Next to this, the 360 will look like a corpse, nobody will want to try developing for a console with no BD-Rom and no HDD as standard, especially when its locked in third place.

b) Release the successor to the 360. This is another bad move, as I said - you just can't release console after console. Releasing another console is basic admission that your previous effort simply *Couldn't get the job done*. It is NOT a good thing, it is NOT a show of strength, it is merely proving that Microsoft were forced to go back to the drawing board in the war against the PS3. Sega released consoles too often, look what happened there. Only a minority of 10-20 Million will buy the console each time, whereas with the PS3, the numbers will just rise and rise. Developers will go to the most stable system.



And the future? As I have stated, the successor to the 360 will fail because of the same reason the 360 itself has failed - it will be released too soon, too often. That leaves Nintendo. Its no secret that the big N is making out like bandits. When the Wii has ran its course - and it will, I can see Nintendo throwing the capitalmade into a 'serious effort'. Or, a system to threaten the PS3. A true successor to the Gamecube, if you like. The masses of Wii owners will be loyal to Nintendo and give it a shot. Thats important, unlike Microsoft - its good to have a base to jump off. The 360 only had 24 Million Xbox users to call up, most of the current 360 install base is probably just from that crowd. Evidently its not enough. The PS3 has 80-90 Million PS2 users who have already made their minds up.

But this is years away, by then. The PS3 will have retaken the seat. Nintendo will have to pull something huge out of the bag strategically.

To summarise, I consider nearly all of my points to be near certainties. This is a marathon, not a race. As stated, Sony plays strategically instead of small-time tactically. They bide their time, and use their (extremely) strong points as wisely as anyone could. And it always works. The parallels between the PS2 and PS3 are striking. The only difference is that the PS3 seems to be on a better roll.