Rumor: Gamestop conference call mentions 120 GB PS3
Sony told IGN that any talk about new consoles iterations is rumor and speculation, and therefore no comment. We haven't seen any patents filed for a new PS3 model (each one has a different model number; see our fancy SKU chart), but the circumstantial evidence is starting to add up.
[Via PS3 Fanboy]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Gamer98 @ Jan 31st 2008 6:06PM
Now I'm going to get a ps3 now that it has rumble or should I wait until I can play in game music and there are more games on the console?
B1gC72 - PSN: KillaKornbread @ Feb 1st 2008 6:03AM
if you dont see any games you like yet, then hold off since they are more than likely going to keep releasing more SKU's. these consoles are too expensive to sit and collect dust (im looking at you Wii. March 9th cant come soon enough). in all fairness, i love my PS3 though.
NATO_Duke @ Jan 31st 2008 6:06PM
ZOMG call the president!
name123 @ Jan 31st 2008 6:12PM
Stop right there Sony haters.
PS3 sales: 10.49M
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html
(It's like garlic on vampires.)
Hyams @ Jan 31st 2008 6:22PM
360 still has a 7 mil advantage over the PS3.
Neebs @ Jan 31st 2008 6:45PM
As well as a one year lead.
17 million (according to you) divided by 26 months out = 653K monthly
10 million divided by 14 months out = 714K monthly
Hyams @ Jan 31st 2008 7:05PM
Neebs: Dude, you're preaching to the converted. I'm well aware that the PS3 has a better monthly mean when it comes to hardware sales.
That doesn't change the fact that the 360 still currently has more units out there though.
Spartacus @ Jan 31st 2008 10:49PM
Neebs,
The numbers are a bit misleading. The first year the 360 was out it was considered the "early bird" and many people were waiting to see what the competition was before buying into the next gen of consoles. Therefore the 1st year of sales were fairly slow, then picked up speed after the Wii and PS3 launched.
I haven't checked global numbers, but certainly in the US the PS3 has rarely even been on par with 360 sales on a monthly basis, let alone exceeded them.
Both consoles sold well over the holiday season, but the 360 still managed to sell more worldwide.
oldschoolgamer @ Jan 31st 2008 6:12PM
Another ps3 skew. Whatever happened to not wanting to confuse the consumers? (I'm looking at you Warner Brothers)
We don't want to confuse the consumer but its o.k. siding with a company that has already released close to 1o skews for their console within a 1 to 2 year period.
Ihya @ Jan 31st 2008 6:18PM
Meh, its not that different a skew. Its a bigger hard drive. Not difficult for anyone to understand. Try explaining how having/not having a HD affects Live/Saves/Games in general to Joe Dumb and you have a confused person.
itouchmyself @ Jan 31st 2008 6:20PM
^^wins thread
Korova @ Jan 31st 2008 6:21PM
I know right, this will be like PS3.5
Tranando @ Jan 31st 2008 6:29PM
Hmm,
20GB
40GB
60GB
80GB
Having trouble counting? The fact that all these consoles play PS3 games in exactly the same way, and all have the core functionality of Cell/Blu-ray/HDD/RSX combo, means they arn't really that different. Even more so, knowing that Sony endorse you swapping the HDD for whatever size you want, and give you a handy drive bay, and ungimped HDD format.
I would be more worried about the 360 SKU's
Core
Core with HDMI
Premiium
Premium with HDMI
Elite
Elite Halo 3
Arcade
Core Falcon
Premium Falcon
Elite Falcon
Have I missed any?
glitched @ Jan 31st 2008 6:32PM
I really dont see where people get off complaining about the number of PS3 "skews" PS3 doesnt have as many skews as 360. and there are only ever 2 SKU's on a store shelf at a time. So what confusion will consumers see when they see a cheap one and an expensive one?
360 you have 4 SKU's on the shelf at once, and they have had many more sku's available at one time. (hdmi vs non-hdmi units)
Hudson922 @ Jan 31st 2008 6:40PM
And how ps2 backwards compatible is this one going to be?
timnc @ Jan 31st 2008 9:09PM
@Tranando
There is a lot more going on between the PS3 SKUs than hard disk space. There are differences in the boards and backwards compatability, number of USB and flashcard slots. Plus the big one is this new 120 gig model is going to come with rumble. If it was JUST hard disk size, I don't think anyone would make a big deal about it.
I'm a 60 Gig owner :p http://timnc.com/?p=16
dsub @ Jan 31st 2008 9:28PM
Tranando-
The 360 Falcon and the HDMI 360's aren't "new" SKU's. They're just hardware revisions. There were originally two 360 SKU's, and now there are four. The Arcade is basically a better version of the core, and the Elite and Halo system got added on.
However, unlike the PS3, the 360 is still the same hardware at heart, where the PS3 SKU's are very different. You can buy an Arcade 360 and turn it into an Elite. You can't buy a 40GB PS3 and install extra USB ports in it or download a BC update. Get the difference?
You do get the award for dumbest post of the day.
dsub @ Jan 31st 2008 9:32PM
Glitched-
I see more confusion on customers faces every day when I explain to them that the best of the PS3 models, the 60GB (the only one with Wifi and Hardware BC) is no longer being made. They're usual response is "well that doesn't make any sense" to which I usually reply "I know".
Like I said to Tranando, at least the 360 is the same unit at heart, and everything available for the 360 will work with every SKU. Being that the Halo console was a limited model and is no longer in production, there are only 3 XB360 SKU's on the market, and each one makes perfect sense for a different consumer. Just like the two PS3 models. Except for the lack of installed software on the 40GB model enabling BC. That is one move that I will NEVER EVER understand, and neither will most consumers based on my experience.
glitched @ Jan 31st 2008 10:19PM
@dsub: no wonder they are confused! your giving them wrong information!
xGeneral DEATHx @ Feb 1st 2008 8:27AM
Dsub-
My 40GB PS3 had WiFi built-in. Was that a "glitch"? You must work for Best Buy.
Jake11 @ Jan 31st 2008 6:18PM
more PS3 skus, this is EXACTLY what we need
itouchmyself @ Jan 31st 2008 6:19PM
If this is true than its most likely the white ps3.
glitched @ Jan 31st 2008 6:28PM
I still say that sony needs and should be replacing the 80gig motostorm bundle with a gt5 prologue bundle. HD size is just a insignificant bonus. Its a perfect fit for a bundle! (GT has traditionally been one of the best selling games on ANY playstation.)
giantenemycrab @ Jan 31st 2008 6:30PM
I'd expect an announcement any day now.
Dr0ooo @ Jan 31st 2008 6:33PM
I wish sony would make up their mind already with which system they want to be their flag ship system..JEEZ!
Tranando @ Jan 31st 2008 6:36PM
I wish the Xbots would look closer to home before they made themselves look foolish by proclaming the PS3 has too many SKU's, when the 360 has many many more...
Raikage (Wii FC 5508 0487 4434 0992) @ Jan 31st 2008 7:05PM
If you want HDMI you know how to see if it has it. Not a big deal. Now the Hard drive is another story.. at least you can add it later...
If you want Backwards Compatibility and your buddy's PS3 has it, as an uniformed consumer you would (obviously) assume that the PS3 your buying has it also, meanwhile the wonderful folks at Sony are leaning back in their leather chairs giving you the finger and laughing.
sheppy2.0 @ Jan 31st 2008 7:49PM
Raikage... so THAT's why the 80GB PS3 has the huge notice on the package "PS2 backwards compatibility limited. Check (playstations website) for list of compatable titles." That must also be why the 20GB machines state "This model PS3 is not compatible with PS2 software."
I mean, if they were trying to hide this information, then I'd chauk that up to an "epic phail" considering it's right on the top of the fucking box. But hey, while we're talking, wanna help me find a Jasper when they drop? Because, so far, MS has done everything they can to hide what Mobo revision you're purchasing on a 360.
Raikage (Wii FC 5508 0487 4434 0992) @ Jan 31st 2008 9:15PM
I see where your going, and I completely understand but, the whole MoBo doesn't matter to the normal consumer, the group of people I was discussing.
Also I just google'd a bunch of pics of the 40GB and I see that notice NOWHERE on the box! And we all know that's what people are buying. I believe you but I don't think it's as HUGE as you say...
sheppy2.0 @ Jan 31st 2008 9:43PM
Raikage,
http://www.ps3center.net/images/News%20Article%20Images/40gb%20ps3/3.jpg
Raikage (Wii FC 5508 0487 4434 0992) @ Jan 31st 2008 11:48PM
Eh ill give it to you (I was looking for a big flashy tag like: BTW U CAYN'T PLAI UR GOOD GAYMES KTHXBYE) but I still think it belongs on the front of the box even bigger. Not that someone like you or I care about the BC... just seems kinda shady. Guess you could say the same as the HD on the Core, $50 to save your game? Idiots...
ill trooper @ Feb 1st 2008 12:47AM
Raikage - I can't accept your examples of 'The Customer" in your argument - While defending the 360, you use the example of a consumer who's clever and aware enough to know how to find out and tell which 360 has HDMI, but suddenly your PS3 customer can't tell which model is PS3 backward-compatible?
Bias much?
Raikage (Wii FC 5508 0487 4434 0992) @ Feb 1st 2008 1:08AM
Sorry Ill I don't think I said it right :S What I meant was if someone knows they want HDMI, they are most likely a little more knowledgeable about these things than the average consumer, thus they would know how to determine which one had HDMI. Sorry to konfuse...
WAYTOBIASKTHX
TravvyTrav @ Jan 31st 2008 6:51PM
Umm, yeah. Ive sat in on plenty of Gamestop conference calls. The sad thing is that they know about things far after the actual gamers know. It was probably an overzealous Store Manager reporting on something a customer told him. Trust me, it happens all the time.
Rob Accomando @ Jan 31st 2008 6:52PM
why don't they just release the 1 terrabyte PS3 and get it over with.
Tranando @ Jan 31st 2008 7:08PM
Because the kids cried that it was too expensive. The same reason why they stripped out PS2 backwards compat, because people cried it was tooi expensive..
Sidepocket @ Jan 31st 2008 7:21PM
Doesn't anyone find it funny that Sony during E3 2005 was mocking and dogging on Microsoft for "confusing the consumer with its bullshit multiple SKU strategy" and that PS3 would never go that route...and be affordable?
Then they pull this shit and act like they just cured aids?
No wonder why nobody looks up to them anymore.
Inect @ Jan 31st 2008 11:42PM
My ps3 is trying to cure aids...
xImpossible Is Nothingx @ Jan 31st 2008 7:45PM
how expensive do ya think this one will be? And why are they getting rid of the 80GB anyways?
sheppy2.0 @ Jan 31st 2008 7:51PM
More than likely, like the case with the 20GB units, it's just gotten cheaper to make the 120GB drive than the 80GB drive and people were complaining about the Motorstorm bundle anyway.
Goreful @ Jan 31st 2008 7:54PM
And the most dumbest post for the day goes to Tranando.
"I would be more worried about the 360 SKU's
Core
Core with HDMI
Premiium
Premium with HDMI
Elite
Elite Halo 3
Arcade
Core Falcon
Premium Falcon
Elite Falcon
Have I missed any?"
Yeah, I think you missed your brain there....Tell us, how many of those have been discontinue? Yeah, continue to be worry about the Xbox 360.
glitched @ Jan 31st 2008 8:23PM
I would say that award goes to you. Whats your point in pointing out that some have been discontinued?
Matt B @ Jan 31st 2008 8:25PM
"Yeah, I think you missed your brain there....Tell us, how many of those have been discontinued?"
Being that the 20, 60, and 80GB and have now been discontinued leaving only the 40 and 120. With your much hugerer intellect, please tell us all who has the most skus available in the stores?
Please don't attempt to insult someone's brain if you can't do your own math.
sheppy2.0 @ Jan 31st 2008 8:28PM
Someone calling someone else's post out without the ability to hit the reply button... irony, that's what halloween means to me...
Fine, I'll answer your question...
5 SKUs currently available on 360, each one with significant performance and feature differences.
2 SKUs currenlty available with minor performance differences. And before you call me out, here are the differences...
360 Core- Wired controller, lacks the ability to save games at all, lacks BC in any form.
360 Arcade- Wireless controller, memory card, comes with a few free games. Lacks BC in any form.
360 Premium- Wireless controller, features a hard drive of limited capacity. Limited BC.
360 Halo Edition- Ugly color, features limited capacity hard drive. Limited BC.
360 Elite- Black console with decently sized hard drive. Limited BC.
PS3 20GB- Limited hard drive, lacks BC.
PS3 80GB- Larger hard drive, limited BC.
So your rebuttal doesn't exactly knock any complaints down.
Spartacus @ Jan 31st 2008 11:11PM
sheppy,
Core = Discontinued
Halo LE = Discontinued
Therefore the 360 has THREE sku's in production, not 5. Three is still more than two, but let's not distort the facts.
Rob @ Jan 31st 2008 8:06PM
whatever, blah blah blah. Already got my two dualshock 3's and that Hitachi 7200 Rpm, 200GB HDD should be coming in any day now. :D
Zatch @ Jan 31st 2008 8:23PM
Keep giving me moar hdd space. I don't care about good games or backwards compatibility or anything else, I just want more than enough hard drive space to put as many copies of Everyday Shooter on as I can.
Not Important @ Jan 31st 2008 8:34PM
My manager at best buy said that we're suppose to be selling 120gb PS3's on Friday. Whether that means this Friday (tomorrow) or next week and that we're cutting off the 80gb PS3's (not receiving them anymore). Whether or not that will happen is all up in the air.
Microswirl @ Jan 31st 2008 10:17PM
If you find out tomorrow please send a tip into Joystiq asap. Thnx!
Goreful @ Jan 31st 2008 8:54PM
While the "dumbest" post of the day goes to Tranando. The "come to the rescue while looking stupid" post of the day goes to MattB.
"Being that the 20, 60, and 80GB and have now been discontinued leaving only the 40 and 120. With your much hugerer intellect, please tell us all who has the most skus available in the stores?"
Since, you can't even answer your own simple question. I'll give the easy answer even a 5 year old can answer. Xbox 360...why did you ask that stupid question in the first place?
Now, to help you further (since you need someone to hold your hand and while taking you to use the potty) this is called "Options" Which you will find in any dictionary. Options give consumers different choices which may suit their interests.
Here, Sony tried to give "Options" and made themselves look like idiots (nothing new here) by discontinue each "Option" and trying to introduce a new one. Instead of perserving the "Options" for the consumers they did something worse it's call "Confuse" the consumers.
Do us a favor. If you're going to engage in a discussion be prepare to discuss a subject. Not ask stupid questions. Thank you and that goes for you and the rest of the Sony Sturmabteilung who want to quote me next.