Today's most cooperative video: Haze split-screen

I see where you're coming from, but I'm gonna reserve judgment on the creativity of the art design for when I've had a chance to evaluate the game's story and atmosphere in detail. If it fits and comes off as appropriate in the game's setting - and it doesn't look or play like a Halo clone - then it's not such a big deal in my view.

I saw what you meant instantly. But hey, when I play this at my friends house when he gets it (he has a ps3, I have 360), then I'll feel right at home on this puma/stag/warthog =p

They'll probably have snipers that zoom in! and shotguns that SHOOT one cock after another! Halo will always be the original. Its also in 1st person!!! Wot copycats.

Mb they need to hav copyrighted their vehicles "that have the AMAZING gun thing at the back" and snipers and shotguns. Its fucking hysterical.

ok......
This will never have marketing the level that M$ can provide as hype nor will it evre exceed halo sales BUT.....devs for this game have guts and originality. They actualy made TWO classes of playable characters -mantel & rebels(and as far as Halo standards, this is original) somethin which Bungie had the chance to do with their SPARTAN & ELITE. Insomniac RFoM had balanced it pretty well with Chimera and Humans.

I jus wanna question....."wot did bungie do apart from makin an expansion pak halo2? CoD4 is so much more nxt gen ask every1. Well they might hav copied ie they hav shottys and snipes.....

"So... Who else thinks the truck/buggy in that video looks a little too similar to a Warthog? also the Rocket Launcher looks eerily similar to the Halo Rocket Launcher."

You know, I watched the video right after this to see if you were right. And you know what? You're not. Their truck looks much more like a futuristic Ford F350 than the Hummer inspired Warthog. Can you even tell the difference between a Jeep and a Semi? And the rocket launcher? Hell, if we're going by that, Halo stole their RL from anime. More specifically, Tomino's work since his more military designs did have the kicking back chamber.

Have to agree with others consensus here. Halo is not the alpha of games and just because a vehicle has wheels doesn't mean it ripped off the warthog.

Emphatically seconded. Seriously, when did game developers lose sight of making co-op games so easy for friends to jump into?

Only recently have developers considered co-op as an option even worth implementing in their games.

Yeah, Master, I mean Perfect Dark" came out like, last year or something, right?

Only if they change the name of the series to Timesplitters and make it fun.

At least I'm not the only one that hates the split like that. It's enough for me to not even play a co-op game when its like that.

Perhaps its an adjustable option. I can't vouch for timesplitters doing it like this, or like most two player screens because i never played with less than 2 other people, BUT they most certainly used it for Perfect Dark co-op. I would assume they'd at least do it the way people are used to.

Because split screen top and bottom is really unwieldy on 16:9 screens. Do you really want 1920 x 540 instead of 960 x 1080? The latter is nearly square, so just pretend you're playing on an old school TV (with far better resolution). Even if it's 720p it would be 1280 x 360 vs 640 x 720. Side by side is definitely a lot less restrictive.

"Side by side is definitely a lot less restrictive."

That's where I think matter of opinion actually comes into play. I remember when I got my first widescreen TV, side by side co-op immediately came into mind. I think it's natural to do so. But in practice, most people I've ever spoken to about it actually don't prefer it. And I think it comes down to exactly what embassy said... "you have zero peripheral vision."
Since we live in a world that expands naturally on a horizontal plane rather than a vertical one, the ability to see side to side is much more important than seeing up and down. This is very much ties in with the +hor vs -vert debate, made famous most recently by Bioshock.
Yes, while horizontal split screen on a 16:9 TV produces an extremely convoluted, wacky wide window, it still feels more natural to most people (from my experience) than one thats actually LESS horizontal view than that of 4:3. Every game I attempt to play with no option for horizontal split screen ends in me telling my partner to 'get their own damn xbox/game'.

In any case, not trying to go on a rant, just had to jump in and respectfully disagree with you.

As for Haze, it doesn't look bad, but nothing especially jumped out at me either. I'm not writing the game off, but I think it may be a title I have to play a demo of first to be sold on it.

As opposed to "Generic Puzzle Game ###"? Or any one of "Generic strategy game ###", "Generic Platformer Game ###", and "Generic Roleplaying Game ###"? It's a first person shooter, and it does what it's supposed to do. You could at least put a little effort into your whines next time.

Now to me, this actually stands out because they are attempting to have a lot to offer on the plate. The neatest being opposite points of view in the world, literally. At the very least, it attempts to draw people together.

They're offering 4 player split screen co-op that you can jump into instantly. No other game does that.

And you know what? Every single game out there is a tired retread. Including Halo, including Ratchet and Clank, including Mario Galaxy. Everything's been done before. There are no more revolutions, only renovations.

I like this purely for 4 player split screen co-op. I have no idea if I'll like the game as a whole because I haven't seen much of it. But I'm not going to write off every new game that happens to have similarities to old games.... because then I'd never play any games.

Oh Marty, your sad little flames are becoming weaker and weaker as the months drag on.

It's almost poetic that you'd make a comment about a "generic FPS", considering you back a system whose flagship FPS hasn't changed one iota since it's first iteration (and no, dual wielding is NOT innovation).

Haze promises fantastic visuals, a campaign that can be played completely via co-op (any combination of local, LAN, or online friends can hop in at any time), and the solid story telling, level design and gameplay that have made the men and women at Free Radical a respected name in the console FPS business.

If this were a 360 exclusive you'd have a Haze tattoo across your face by now.

Did you mention that simply to get attention? That is probably the most stupid and yet obvious comment I have ever seen. Thats like going to Uncharted and saying 'Hmm, that will never stack up to Tomb Raider in terms of sales' or going to a new driving simulator and saying 'That game will never beat GT5, Forza and PGR in terms of sales', duh?

Did you honestly expect Haze, an unpredictable new game, on a lower install based console with no past experiences whatsoever to stand up against Halo? Had this been Timesplitters, you would have had more of a debate, because Timesplitters is a console shifter alongside Halo, but Haze, come off it dude.

If you meant to refer to someone else, then forget what I said, if it was intentional, its a silly comment.

Either way, Haze is shaping up, I am just hoping that the length of gameplay is decent, too many games are way too short nowadays, ad hopefully it brings something new and original to the table, Bioshock and Gears have both entered the industry with a bang for originality. Resistance had some original features, but overall, was nothing particularly new.

Dunno, we have it here in UK, but not as a channel, its on a channel called Bravo.

My apologies then, its just comments like what I thought you had posted are everywhere, from Gamespot, to here.