Amen.

@sam / co

I agree, but what about people who don't want to skate... i don't want to fall on my ass all the time, i have 0 coordination from my wrists down/up (however you see it)

If you're into skateboarding enough to do it, you'll probably just do it anyway. TH and skate are geared to people who dont skate... atleast thats the way i've seen it.

What about those of us that can't afford a skateboard? Have you thought of that? We'd much rather buy a console system and a $60 game than spend thousands of dollars and years of practice to actually- wait, I got my Skate defense mixed up with my Guitar Hero defense...

What about those of us that can't move our legs? Have you thought of that? We'd much rather sit on a comfy couch and twidle our thumbs than spend tens of dollars and hours of practice having fun outside!

Dude, skateboarding is fucking HARD. Flicking a joystick with your thumb...not so much.

Correction: Skateboarding WELL is fucking HARD.

@Anam
"We'd much rather buy a console system and a $60 game than spend thousands of dollars and years of practice"
You obviously know shit about skateboarding.
To buy a good deck, trucks, and wheels you're looking at $150
and I'd must rather waste my life outside showing people how i can do a kickflip in real life than showing them in a game.

@Nathan

I'm not sure exactly where you were going with that post, but it sounded like you missed the joke in my post and thought that I seriously believed that skateboarding costs thousands of dollars. I don't. It was a joke making fun of Guitar Hero defenders who say that playing guitar takes thousands of dollars, which is also untrue considering that I bought an new electric guitar w/amp for $200.

Anyway, skateboarding is fun. Skateboarding games are fun. Guitar Hero is fun. Real guitar is a pain in the ass. That is all.

Your right Samfish if we want to skateboard we should just go out and do it.

If we want to play NFL football, fuck Madden, we should and just go out and do it, Sneaking past security and making it onto the field should be no problem.


If we want to dunk a basketball in an NBA game we should just go do it, even if we are only 5'10". I heard they are having open try outs after the allstar break.

We also want to shoot our best friends in the head in a death match and then talk trash to them when they re-spawn...Billy? Are you O.K.? Oh crap. (flees country in lieu of murder charges)

If we want to shoot aliens we should just go out and oh wait...

And if you wanna play SSBB why not just go out into the streets and brawl??

Real men try skateboarding while playing Tony Hawk simultaneously.

in other words "i hate skate because it is too hard"

I sort of disagree. I love both games but for different reasons. Originally, I loved the TH series because it was the only real skate game. Then Thrasher came out, and that took over for a few years as my skateboarding game of choice. (like on a rainy day). I got back into the TH series around pro skater 4, when Kona was featured (my home park!) but by the time Skate. came out, I was ready for a change. I played the hell out of it. when I can't skate, I play skate.

On the other hand, I really hated the new tony hawk game at first. I wrote a terrible review of it because of the forced storylines, the rediculous trick add-ons, and the unrealistic gameplay, which is mostly NOTHING like skateboarding. But the more I played, the more I got into the overall design and structure of it. It's a lot of fun, after you get over the fact that starting off, you can barely ollie high enough to kickflip. It still sucks in a lot of ways, but it's also fun in a lot of ways. But I don't play it to just mess around and do skateboard tricks. Once I'm done with all the goals in the TH games, I hardly feel like playing it anymore. With EA's Skate., I can just cruise around and skate and have a lot of fun, and I don't really care about that. For me, the replay value has been infinitely higher.

i loved skate but WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THE GRIND TO GRIND ON THE MANSION BENCH that was clucking impossible because you had to hit the EXACT kind of grind its like god leave me some room for creative expression and i stopped playing after i couldn't do it for 2 hours.

I do it all the time :-P

Point Taken: But I still maintain that the majority of people who play TH don't skate at all, or don't skate very well, and thus they replace that with games... or not, what do I know.

It's definitly well done, simple controls, good looks, etc. but it does get boring after a while.

^as opposed to tony hawk?

To be fair, they do make a lot of games.

I tried Proving gorund's demo, it seemed solid enough for me...

The last one i played was P8, and it didn't feel realistic at all, it was very arcadey.

I would put it or PG on your rental list, not like #4 at all (can't vouch for Wasteland or Underground, since i never played them)

I'm glad you said that because it's the same argument people have about games like Rock Band, and it's retarded. The whole point of games is fun. Just because it's based on easily accessable subject matter like skateboarding or music, doesn't mean that it isn't fun or ok to enjoy. I mean more dramatically, I love Call of Duty, but lol at the idea of me signing up for the military. A big difference, yeah, but it's the same argument.

especially moronic considering this is a games website. Just go outside and have this conversation in public instead of sitting on you ass to voice your opinion. We come here for gaming and being couch athletes. Nuff said.

Yeah, all the characters in the Tony Hawk games DO seem like jackasses. I mean not like Bam, I mean like 'douchebags'.

I agree.

The idea of a trail behind camera works fine, and it's very creative, but I wish that you can sort of move it, or make it higher, or more to the left, because there are times in which its hard to see what's ahead of you or below you without getting dangerously close to the edge.

And I wish you could set a camera somewhere so when you record, it doesn't trail along with you. There are lots of spots in skate. that I can't skate on because the camera feels wonky in the video, or better left stationary in a corner.