Rumor: Resident Evil 4 to blame for no Capcom in Brawl

That upsets me so much about Nintendo; those pretentious jerks.

Dont blame ninty, get a A++++++ title suppose to be a exclusive then capcom turn around and say 'screw it, lets milk re4' however megaman would be kinda cool

i dont get it. Snake has been on multiple consoles and so has Sonic in recent times. why couldnt they put RE4 characters in anyway? was it the broken trust or something made them sour? im confused.

oh well, itll be a great game with or without Capcom characters though i would love to see some kind of DLC (besides the user-created levels) but im not holding my breathe on it.

If there really was an agreement broken, Nintendo would be doing a LOT more than leaving Capcom out of SSSB. Lawsuits come to mind.

No, I'm sure Capcom lived up to their agreement but Nintendo mistakenly thought the Capcom games would not be worth porting after the agreement ended. In other words, Nintendo understimated Capcom's games.

It's seems to be pretty typical of Nintendo to dismiss third party games as important there days.

Am I the only one who doesn't care? I mean, the game's going to be great - and no amount of Leon Kennedy or Megaman will make it greater in my estimate. It will just mean the next iteration of the franchise will get those characters.

I think I will be too busy brawling to even think about this "problem."

Doubt its true, but then, wouldn't be suprised if it was, Capcom has a way of decieving people, now there is nothing wrong with going multiplat or exclusive depending on what the company decides to choose, but if you build up hope and keep telling people, 'ITS EXCLUSIVE! ITS EXCLUSIVE!' Then suddenly punch them in the nose and make it multiplat or even switch consoles completly in Monster Hunter's case, it pisses people off.

Capcom makes Dead Rising exclusive to 360 and doesn't moan about crap about it being too expensive or rubbish, they make monster hunter for PS3, and suddenly, despite having RE5, Lost Planet and DMC4 on PS3, they moan that Monster Hunter Exclusive is too expensive or something stupid like that. Now imagine Monster hunter had remained on PS3, maybe even gone multiplat, it would probably be even more fun then that of RE5, DMC4 etc, considering its an RPG and with the great graphics of PS3 and 360 it would look superb, nothing wrong with it being on Wii, but I'm pissed there is no PS3 or 360 version of the game to oogle at ¬_¬

Capcom has seriously let me down. Thier credibility in my books is dwindling.

Well, at least there's still Marvel vs Capcom for your Mega Man/Jill Valentine fixes.

Btw, want to steal powers? I hear there's this guy named Kirby...

If I recall correctly, I think the supposed "exclusive" titles were:
VIEWTIFUL JOE
RESIDENT EVIL 4
PN 03
...and then two titles that didn't even get past conceptual stage. Of those mentioned above, PN03 was easily the weakest one - nice idea, piss-poor execution.

This game series sucks ass any ways... Zzzzz!

Capcom has been going down the drain lately anyway, with a lowering amount of quality and number of games. Instead of a bunch of quality spread out nicely, we're seeing only one or two quality games popping up out of them at a time, and nothing else, making it very easy to point out how much everything else sucks.

As for Megaman, I always assumed he was sorta tied up at the moment. I mean, they could always be making another Capcom Vs series, so what would be the point in Megaman having another Cross-Company fighting romp?

I could see it being a possibility. Video game companies have histories of being petty over minor slights.

As for why non-exclusive games didn't hurt Sonic and Snake, keep in mind a couple things.

1) Sega and Konami never promised that the series in question would go exclusive.

2) The titles that *were* promised as exclusive to Nintendo consoles stayed that way.

You know the saying "Be careful who you step on when you go up; they'll be the ones kicking you on the way down"? Nintendo is following it, and yes, it's to the detriment of the fans.

I only remember one thing. The creator or someone in Capcom said that if RE4 was on any other system, he'd cut off his own head...I'm still waiting.

Seriously I don't blame Nintendo, one bit. It is amazing that these 3rd parties still refuse to support Nintendo but in return expect Nintendo to cater to them. I am not naive enough to not understand that Nintendo is a business, like any other business they should reward people that are loyal to them. Capcom ported their games over to another system in fear fine, but there should be no complaints when Nintendo doesn't look to benefit them in their games.

Second Brawl is still an Amazing title I have no reason to be disappointed. Before RE4 came out companies and gamers were telling Campcom the Resident Evil series was dead, after it came out on GC and people saw how good it was capcom decided to milk it after Nintendo openly welcomed their ideas and supported a series many thought wasn't going anywhere.

I also love Capcom, they make good games, and they will support anybody if they see there is a profit. But maybe if they had supported Nintendo more Clover wouldn't be a distant memory.

You'd think if Nintendo was genuinely upset with Capcom, they probably wouldn't have bothered releasing RE:4 on the Wii, right? The only fault I find with Capcom here was deciding it would be a good idea to release one of their (if not their most) high profile exclusives on a platform that had such shitty third-party support. Shame too, since RE:4 was better than like 85-90% of the other games on the GCN.

Hell, RE:4 Wii is better than like 85% of the games on that platform too...

Nintendo has pulled this kind of crap before, isn't that right, Squaresoft?

I find it amazing that when Capcom announced that 'Devil May Cry 4' wasn't going to be a PS3 exclusive and going to the 360 - all you idiots were on here laughing your asses off. Yet when Capcom does the same thing to your beloved Nintento - you want blood and claim that Nintendo has every right to be pissed at Capcom.. Bunch of hypocrites you NintenBots are. The console business has changed, while all the systems will have their exclusive titles (for now) it's just more profitable to release your games on as many platforms as possible, there by spreading the development cost across each platform and not just one. All games should be multiplatform as far as I'm concerned. How much more money would have MS made had the 'Halo' franchise been on other consoles, same goes for 'Final Fantasy', 'Jak & Daxter', 'Ratchet & Clank', 'Mario' and 'Zelda' just to name a few..

I think there's more to the story.

Think about it, if agreements were set between Nintendo and Capcom, the Street Fighter floodgates of hell would reach Brawl.

THis is old school interpersonal japanese politics.
Capcom screwed nintendo and nintendo got revenge.
I am guessing Sega and Konami will be getting royalties for Brawl and that slight % of sales money will BE HUGE for a game THEY DID NOTHING IN, so its pure profit.

If Capcom would of waited and allowed RE4 to be 'exclusive' it would of helped sales allot. Maybe a month before release we heard about PS2 version, and any people who would of bought the game and maybe GAMECUBE because of it, totally said "SCREW THAT I'M WAITING FOR SUPERIOR PS2 VERSION" so that was the key.

If RE4 PS2 edition wasn't on the horizon sales for Cube version would be very different. I like this rumor this is Nintendo playing hardball and I like it

But Nintendo loves the gamers!

Lost Planet, PS3, Need I Say More?

Has capcom released anything 'wow' worthy in the last few years? I think not... it's not Nintendo's Fault that RE4 Flopped on the GC... it's Capcom's for putting out a bad game...

It all comes full circle though, there is RE4 Wii Edition...

Revenge? You guys is silly. :)

Nintendo lives for profit, and so does Capcom (and Sony and MS, and just about every other company). Video games are all about business - don't ever forget that! These companies exist to earn money and NOT to do their fanboys a favor.

Apparently the numbers didn't work to make Megaman appear in Brawl, or to let GoldenEye appear on XBox Live, or to let Halo appear on DS, or to keep DMC4 or RE4 as console exclusives. Ego might play a part, but maxing out the bottom line is the real goal - and that's purely business, nothing personal.

Who can say if Nintendo's profits increase enough to justify adding Capcom characters this late in the development cycle? After all, more additions would delay the release date even further. And which way should the supposed payments be flowing: to Capcom who is licensing out their key characters, or to Nintendo who is offering visibility in one of their Wii-exclusive megahits? (This is much like the Halo 3 advertising campaigns, where MS actually earned money by allowing advertisers to use the Halo brand in some cases.)

That said, it is a pity. I'd love to have seen a Zack & Wiki tag team option in Brawl... but that's probably just me.



@Killer Loki:
Don't be so naive. MS would earn a ton of sales by porting Halo to other platforms... but how much would they lose in the long-term by whoring out their console-defining game experience? Same goes for popular Nintendo and Sony franchises.

Unless you drop out of hardware entirely like Sega did, there is some validity to keeping high-end games as console specific options.