Analyst: American PS3 sales to match Xbox 360 in 2008

Both you spamming and your grammar apall me.

If it matches exactly in sales, then it will never catch up.

Except in Starbucks white chocolate coffees, the cream mixes with the coffee and the milk, at the end it tastes exactly like a Vanilla Late.

I like non-fat milk, thank you very much.

Non-fat milk is pretty much white water,I like Half and half but mostly whole milk.

Sh!t floats!

At some point we lost the analogy here.

Wood floats in Water!!!

But what also floats in water?

Churches? Really small rocks?

Babies.

There must not be as many gamers as I thought....

Why Sony fanboys are always so dramatic?

Ironically enough, Microsofts sales numbers for 2007 indicate that PS3 may have already outsold 360 for the year of 2007.

I just thought I would throw that flamebait up since Joystiq will not post the news story I sent them...

If the sales match each other in 08, then the PS3 will not eclipse anything. It just means that each install base will rise.

But marty, PS3 has already outpaced in 2007, what makes you think this will suddenly stop in 2008. About the only system who's fate is predictable at this point in Wii.

Fidlious, usually if you're the only one who knows a statistic like that, and it hasn't been reported by game industry websites or flaunted by Sony, chances are you're wrong.

The analyst said he thinks the PS3 will rally to match 360 - that means that it's sales numbers are currently lagging behind the 360. And despite how wrong they've been at times, I think industry analysts probably have more reliable data than you do.

"If the sales match each other in 08, then the PS3 will not eclipse anything. It just means that each install base will rise."

You made the exact same comment about ten posts above. Are you really THAT worried, Marty?

Haha, not worried at all. The day I lose any sleep over sales numbers for these machines is the day I stop playing video games altogether.

I just can't believe how so many people can't interpret simple math. Should I be reprimanded for trying to quell ignorance now?

well it's obviously lagging behind. the 360 has a whole years worth of pretty strong sales under it's belt already. so in order for the PS3 to take a marketshare lead over the 360 it has to outsell it for the year PLUS make up a decent chunk of the 360's head start install base.

PS3 still has a ways to go before it beats the 360 but i dont think it's impossible, just dammed hard to do. either way, you Xbots should be happy the PS3 is doing better so it will keep Microsoft honest. why do you think the PS3 is suddenly doing better? cause the competition was spanking it. bigger install bases all around can only help the gamer. wise up guys.

@ FidliousWong


Sony SHIPPED more then Microsoft. (due to Microsoft stuffing the channel at the end of 2006)

Microsoft SOLD more then Sony
http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=16311

1 chick, 3 tits?

Total Recall is an awesome movie because of that.

Yes it was. Unfortunately, this was meant below, but something on this site screwed up. Oh well.

okay, why not?!? I will not type this is both sections of the thread...

I... guess this is one of those instances where we once again point to the fact that VGchartz is not law. Likewise, somehow, VG chartz has a way of knowing about console sales even Microsoft doesn't know about... Or maybe Microsoft is taking into account vendor returns and VG chartz is not? Okay... here we go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfIDBqOxYRs

Now, look at 6:34. Robbie Bach specifically states that they have sold, through December 31st, 10.4 million Xbox 360s worldwide. This was CES 2007. These are numbers from Microsoft, the people who would know and more importantly, why would they lie about these stats?

http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2008/01/03/some-xbox-360-numbers.aspx

Taken from the post at hand...

"The PR team has just released some interesting numbers on where we are with the Xbox 360 that I thought you would enjoy discussing:

We have sold more than 17.7 million Xbox 360 consoles worldwide
More than 8.1 million copies of "Halo 3" have been sold since its launch (September 25, 2007)
Mass Effect" reached 1.6 million units sold, in just six weeks (on sale November 20, 2007)"

So that's 17.7 million sold... according to Microsoft. That means, according to Microsoft, they have sold 7.3 million units in 2007. Now keep in mind, according to VGchartz, the amount the sold for the year is a roughly a million over what MS has claimed, yet the total system sales are about a million below what MS has claimed. That means there is some problems with the numbers.... don't you think? Now who do we trust, the people who write the shipping reports and count the sales or the people who READ the shipping reports and sales quotes? Because, clearly, one is wrong and guess who relies on who for their data?

Now onto Sony...

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

According to this, Sony has sold (sold to retailers is still sold) 8.191 million consoles for 2007 (Q4 of FY2006 is, in fact, first quarter of 2007). Now, you MAY notice Q1 had excessively low shipped quantities. this is because most stores were not ordering restocks because they already had units. Notice Q2 however and how the price drop increased the shipments and suddenly Q4 had a huge jump. Not to bolster store quantities because, simply put, if no one was buying PS3, the stores wouldn't either.

Now, as for true hardcore sales, nobody knows. There is, simply put, no possible way OF knowing. But these numbers place PS3 beyond Xbox 360, but if they are wrong, this is certainly far too close to be comfortable for Microsoft who, according to their own data, saw a decrease in 2007 sales from 2006. MS's own numbers place nearly nearly 9 million in sales during 2006.

Take this data for however you see fit. However, take this data as evidence that, despite the supposed reliability of VGchartz, their numbers are simply not matching up with what all the companies are saying.

So Fidlious you're saying Sony's sold to retailers is higher than Microsoft's sold to consumers for 2007? I don't get it. Wouldn't it make more sense to compare them both on the same thing?

@FidliousWong

You are talking shipped to retailers while vgchartz counts sales to consumers.

Also there were 2 million 360's counted as 'shipped to retailers' in 2006 but 'sold to consumers' in 2007.

This was due to Microsoft stuffing the channels to hit their 10mil target

50gigs, 49 gigs of cutscenes, 1 gig of gameplay

40 minutes to install.

Gameplay is last gen and oh,so overrated.

Well actually I like Kojima style and even if the game ends like the modern version of Dragon's lair I would be fascinated.

3 words 1 number? time to monetize on some porn

Stop being such a damn reasonable-discourse-fanboy! Flame on!!!!1!

What's this whole if Final Fantasy came out in America then it would be different? Let me feel you in on something over here American gamers no longer give two flips about turn based JRPG's. Why do you think Sony has Killzone 2, Haze, and RFOM 2 lined up for this year? To capture the American market. I like many like minded American gamers would never be caught dead playing games where the protagonist is a pretty boy, with a top Salon do, wearing a dress, and beating up guys with bazookas using a shiny sword that shoots sparks. Turn based is dead...In America at least.

wow Leobebes...

"I like many like minded American gamers would never be caught dead playing games where the protagonist is a pretty boy, with a top Salon do, wearing a dress, and beating up guys with bazookas using a shiny sword that shoots sparks. Turn based is dead...In America at least."

you have no idea, you might be one of the few, but seriously, have you seen the amount of mindless fanboys that keep screaming for a remake of FF7?

Do you know how anime expos are there in the US?

You have no idea, Dragon Quest might be SE's biggest franchise in Japan, but outside of it, Final Fantasy is one mighty franchise...

If you don't like it is fine, but don't go around bashing a franchise with a legacy and power as the FF one...

Leobebes, XIII is an action game, DMC style, with RPG elements. That's what they've said since day one, and that's what the trailers point to. If half that shit happens in game, it's 3 times more action packed than any of those games you mentioned.
Also, you play as a girl, and FF hasn't been turn based since X.

honestly, i see Sony's exclusive (especially 1st and 2nd party) 08 lineup to be stronger than the 360's exclusive 08 lineup

However, seeing as the Wii hasn't even caught up to 360 in overall NA sales (although it does outsell it), i see the PS3 having an even harder time of it. (i know its about sales rates, just saying)

FFXIII - Where the main character actually looks like the gender she really is.

*sigh*

If you plotted these two on a graph, and their sales "match," as the analyst predicts, then their lines will never cross. 360 will remain the console with the higher install base. It's pretty simple.