Devil May Cry 4 PS3 'accomplishments' may hint at Home integration
by Scott Jon Siegel 
{ Feb 5th 2008 at 9:30AM }
This could possibly mean nothing, but it's equally possible that Devil May Cry 4 may be one of the first games to send accomplishment information to the PS3 system, for integration with services like the upcoming Playstation Home. We've already seen that Home will feature trophies collected from various accomplishments in games. Perhaps this could be the key to that feature.
As drab as the accomplishments notice is, it'll be interesting to see what it portends, if anything.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Sam @ Feb 5th 2008 9:33AM
i lol'd.
Fernando Rocker @ Feb 5th 2008 9:34AM
Lol "accomplishments" =)
Fernando Rocker @ Feb 5th 2008 9:50AM
Lou: You know, the funniest thing though; it's the little differences.
Wiggum: Example.
Lou: Well, at McDonald's you can buy a Krusty Burger with cheese, right? But they don't call it a Krusty Burger with cheese.
Wiggum: Get out! Well, what do they call it?
Lou: A Quarter Pounder with cheese.
Wiggum: Quarter Pounder with cheese? Well, I can picture the cheese, but, uh, do they have Krusty partially gelatinated non-dairy gum-based beverages?
Lou: Mm-hm. They call 'em, "shakes."
Eddie: Huh, "shakes". You don't know what you're gettin'.
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Feb 5th 2008 11:14AM
I agree. The name "accomplishments" isn't as good as the original name... "skill points", which is what they were called when Insomniac invented them back on PS1 with Spyro the Dragon.
http://spyro.mozepy.com/ENTERTAINMENT/YOD/YODSkill.html
Lol "achievements" =)
StrangeBum @ Feb 5th 2008 11:19AM
Voted down sucks. I don't see why. But then the reply was even better!
+1 for sure.
And also, if these types of things are integrated into the Home "game" then that is actually pretty cool. Home itself may seem gimicky, and rather uninspired. But it's definitely something different. I wouldn't mind seeing something like it on the 360. But similar to DOA4 (I believe) where you can be a crab running around on a beach in the lobby.
I don't know. Just some sort of visual interaction with the XBL community. Would be pretty spot-on IMO.
AirIntake @ Feb 5th 2008 11:20AM
Spyro invented 'Skill Points'? Har. Since Pong, videogames have been awarding points for doing skillful things in the game. Spyro can hardly get credit for this. The innovation of 'Achievements' is that they are points from across multiple games. Spyro's 'Skill Points', and Sony's 'Accomplishments' are not the same thing, and are not innovations, they're just a different way of displaying the same old points you always got.
NATO_Duke @ Feb 5th 2008 11:50AM
AirIntake - I think that is an over simplified view of accomplishments/achievements. I guess the first time you opened a new level or playable character in a game when that first began, you thought they were just the same as more points as well and unworthy of being excited about?
itouchmyself @ Feb 5th 2008 12:07PM
The day you are banned Fernando will be a great day indeed.
AirIntake @ Feb 5th 2008 12:17PM
@NATO_duke
What do unlockables have to do with achievements? Unlockables have been around since the beginning of videogame time as well and achievements are rarely used to unlock things in games. And no, I didn't think unlockables were very worthy of being excited about when they started happening, because I came from a PC gaming background, where (at the time) you rarely had to unlock anything on a PC game. I thought of unlockables as a rip off, because they kept me from using a part of the game I had already paid for. I don't really mind them so much now because A) They're in every damn game B) There are almost always cheat codes to do the unlocking for you.
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Feb 5th 2008 1:14PM
AirIntake:
Pong keeps track of the score that leads you to victory. Achievements are more associated with things that are interesting side items, not something you have to do to win the game.
Also, score in Pong is merely totalled. Skill points are listed by name. At the end of Pong, did you see a list of "got 1 point", "got 2nd point", "got 3rd point"? No, it's just a total. Skill points (and Achievements have individual names) and are listed as separate things you accomplish.
MS does also assign a value to Achievements and totals them up across games. This is gamerscore, and I despise gamerscore. And oddly, it's the only thing you can't turn off on Live. I can keep people from viewing my achievements or online status, but my gamerscore is right there as part of my card no matter what I do. I don't like gamerscore because it leads to stupid shit like Airbender where games sell (and reward the developer) just because people want to up their gamescore total. I also (and this is getting pretty far off track) don't like how gamescore is implied to be a measure of skill, when it's mostly a measure of how many games you've played (which strongly correlates to how much money MS has made off selling you games).
It's clear skill points and achievements are different from score.
deaftly @ Feb 5th 2008 2:10PM
OMG $ony riped of Nintndo!
Richard @ Feb 5th 2008 11:16PM
I like how AirIntake translated "opened a new level or playable character in a game" into "unlockables" and then dedicated an entirely meaningless paragraph to the misinterpretation. "What do unlockables have to do with anything" might've been a better question to first ask.
xFenixKnightx @ Feb 5th 2008 9:35AM
That pic = TOO FUNNY!!!
Brucie B @ Feb 5th 2008 9:39AM
*Boring Accomplishment Screen*
LOL
Brent @ Feb 5th 2008 9:39AM
Wow, that screen is completely obtrusive!
Once I have a gamerscore on PS3 and 360 somebody will need to make a website that combines them into one glorious number that tells the world how much time I've wasted playing video games...haha...
animeman_59 @ Feb 5th 2008 9:40AM
LMAO
Boring "Accomplishment" Screen. Friggin' Priceless.
As far as Xbox accomplishments go, I don't really see the point. The only accomplishments that I'm steadily trying to complete are the ones in COD4, and that's because I actually get something out of it (XP, new weapons, add-ons, etc..) Normal accomplishments don't really do anything for me.
Now if they can translate those gamerpoints into actual marketplace points, then I'd be more inclined to participate. But, until then, I see no point in it.
Chameleon @ Feb 5th 2008 10:45AM
"now if they can translate those gamerpoints into actual marketplace points ..."
now there's an idea ....
FOXHOUND @ Feb 5th 2008 9:43AM
It's one thing to give awards for being mediocre... it's an entirely worse situation when that already-mediocre award is displayed in a pretty bland presentation... personally speaking, I'd ask "why bother?" and neglect it entirely.
And goddamn, that advertisement at left with the CG-ish woman flinching is freaking me out. x_X
paragraph @ Feb 5th 2008 9:43AM
+1 for Picture
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It'd be nice to see "accomplishments" in PS3... it's good to play pretend ;)
But really, good for them... looks like ass... but good for them...
xFenixKnightx @ Feb 5th 2008 9:44AM
So its safe to say that PS3 fanboys will become "Accomplishment" Whores? LOL!!
elpmis @ Feb 5th 2008 9:55AM
I unlocked the "Won't RRoD" Accomplishment when I bought my PS3.
AK @ Feb 5th 2008 10:08AM
Don't forget the 20 minute install accomplishment...
elpmis @ Feb 5th 2008 10:22AM
It's 30 minutes, get it right
Cyro @ Feb 5th 2008 10:23AM
30 minutes install according to PS3 Fanboys web page.
rv @ Feb 5th 2008 10:52AM
Achievement Unlocked: Witty Banter!
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Feb 5th 2008 11:14AM
@elpmis
Oh man. You're so witty. You deserve a cookie.
elpmis @ Feb 5th 2008 11:58AM
Achievement Unlocked: Lots of Attention! :)
Sam @ Feb 5th 2008 9:55AM
Now you can show them online on your ps3!
ClarkyCat @ Feb 5th 2008 10:13AM
These ain't your dad's uninspiring rip-offs!
Mr.ESC @ Feb 5th 2008 11:45AM
These are Turbo uninspiring Rip-offs!!!
AmIRite?
Zeus.:God @ Feb 5th 2008 5:03PM
POWERACCOMPLISHMENT! FOR GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF UNINSPIRING RIPOFFS!
baby sea tuna @ Feb 5th 2008 10:21AM
So, where do my Insomniac "Skill Points" figure into all of this? Don't make have to start my e-penis over at zero again, Sony!
baby sea tuna @ Feb 5th 2008 10:22AM
PS. "Accomplishments"? Really?!
FidliousWong @ Feb 5th 2008 10:38AM
Skill Points... ah yes....
As if getting bigger and better weapons in R&C didn't warrant the second/eighth playthough, those skill points certainly did. Good times hunting those down. Insomniac knows how to make 100% achievement fun, not frustrating.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Feb 5th 2008 3:27PM
Its still better than their original name: "Entitlements".
nick @ Feb 5th 2008 10:22AM
Well at least Sony is not calling it by their original choice, 'entitlements'
Made it sound like you were getting deeds to land or a gold mine.
But now that Sony's 'accomplishments' are here, I know the HD era has truly arrived. (sarcasm)
baby sea tuna @ Feb 5th 2008 10:25AM
Personally, I'm still waiting for that fabled "4th Dimension" to kick in.
rv @ Feb 5th 2008 10:53AM
If they were entitlements, then you would be entitled to them, meaning you would have them no matter what you did in the game. That name was horrible.
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Feb 5th 2008 11:18AM
There's no evidence entitlements was Sony's original choice. That's just crap you read on the internet. There's a plenty good chance it was made up by a PS3 fanboy or a 360 fanboy, especially given how the word is pretty loaded for making fun of.
Necki @ Feb 13th 2008 11:13AM
You may be waiting for the forth Dimension but I'm waiting for the "living" part to kick in.
Andy @ Feb 5th 2008 10:23AM
Sony, here is a hint. Copy the achievements idea from MS. Copy Xbox Live, and throw your HOME on top of it. MS already did the R&D of how to build a great online system. Just copy what they did. How hard is it to make a great online system, when someone has already shown you how? Gamerscore is a great addition. Copy it. Call it accomplishments. just do it already. If you were apple, and you copied it, Mac fanboys would even rip on MS for copying your idea.
xFenixKnightx @ Feb 5th 2008 10:26AM
Listen to this man! +1
James @ Feb 5th 2008 1:41PM
Hell why not, they already copied a fuck load more.
Motion sensitivy, 1-4 controller lights, "Home" button, Triggers, Playstion marketplace thing, Basically a Virtual Console for ps1 games.. The list goes on.
Should call it copystation with blu rays.
mike @ Feb 5th 2008 10:25AM
well unless sony is gonna patch their exsisting library to include accomplishments, its too late. Also, they need to track all of them on an easy to view gamercard like with xbox. Its easy for me to compare achievements with a team mate in the lobby as I wait for the host to start a match. Im not going to log onto a program like home outside of the game and take the time to walk to his virtual house so I can look at his accomplishment trophies lol
xFenixKnightx @ Feb 5th 2008 10:27AM
Tru dat, tru dat.
James @ Feb 5th 2008 10:33AM
Yea, it's like when you look at how more advanced Vista is than even an earlier OS Tiger.
"what features would you like to remove today?"
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Feb 5th 2008 11:20AM
Yes, it's too late for comprehensive coverage of e-penis score whoring on PS3. And I for one couldn't be more glad.
Play games for your own enjoyment, not others.
xGeneral DEATHx @ Feb 5th 2008 10:29AM
I continue to catch lulz from that picture. Nice.
xFenixKnightx @ Feb 5th 2008 11:27AM
What is it with this e-penis or e-wang business?
Personally I dont care about my "Gamerscore" but I do love achievements. It extends the life of some videogames FOR ME at least. Its just a little extra something I guess.
Like if I beat the game, then I go back and try to unlock some achievements and theres alot of replayability in that. Now, when I see some achievements that are just rediculous and not going to be fun then I dont really care for those.
Take COD4 for example...that game has some awesome achievements of which are all single player campaign achievements and that made me play through the campaign multiple times. As where on my PS3 version that I bought for my kids I dont see me doing that. Beat the game and go straight to multiplayer.
Guess its just something you have to experience...who knows? IMO though Sony should go all the way with this Accomplishments deal. You'll see =)
xFenixKnightx @ Feb 5th 2008 11:29AM
This was actually supposed to be @ TREV....damnit!!