| Mail |
You might also like: WoW Insider, Massively, and more

Reader Comments (96)

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:16PM (Unverified) said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
Bah, it's reports like this make me want to go kill someone.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:22PM Zoot Suit Jedi Grammar Hammer En said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
Fox News makes me want to kill people.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:57PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
Bill O Reily makes me want to kill people.
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 2:43AM ultimateq said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
Spilling my milk makes me want to kill people,
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 11:51AM Abuzar said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
Sex makes me want to kill peop...

Wait no it doesn't. Sorry guys.
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 5:06PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
+1 (cant they see there errors?!?!? No!?!?!? THEY MUST PAY WITH THEIR BLOOD!!! MWAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 5:48PM (Unverified) said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
NEWSFLASH:

News channels 'normalize' bullshit
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:19PM (Unverified) said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report

That's what the brain of a fanboy looks like after reading a post on Joystiq about their favorite console being dissed.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 5:35PM Kuro said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
i cant wait until video game makers start telling people books, tv, and movies are bad for you. =D
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:20PM shimrra74 said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
What bullshit. Has anyone sat down and seen all the coverage and display of violence CNN covers. They can show a child with a burned face on tv countless times yet playing a game like poker is any different or just as addictive. CNN and alot of media out there have a warped sense of humor and I pretty much just don't care. All media ever does is sensational broadcast with little regard to ethics or morality. Remember the media wants to be the first one to scare you into watching there shows.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:23PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report

Welcome to the world of Liberal/Socialist TV my friend! Shall I use their favorite quote (liberal/social)? "Let's do it for the children!"
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:26PM Zertoss said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
The problem isn't that the media is liberal or conservative, it's that it's capitalist. To them, the truth is whatever is worth the most money.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:36PM (Unverified) said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
Jouten & Zertoss, you're both off track here.

TV hates videogames because kids who are playing videogames aren't watching TV. This is the same reason that TV hates the Internet. What's the best way to get kids to stop playing videogames and hanging out online? Tell the kids' parents that videogames & the internet are evil.

This isn't a political or economic agenda, it's just a business defending itself. You hear similar comments from encyclopedia publishers when they talk about wikipedia. Or Roger Ebert's bleating about how videogames are irrelevant.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:59PM Zertoss said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
Well, since this story was posted on their website, is it really just defending their business from the evil that is the Internet? Wouldn't that be akin to Britannica making a Wiki entry about how Wikipedia sucks or Roger Ebert making a video game about how irrelevant video games are?

There are 2 things on their minds: ratings and hits. And they know that by jabbing the hornet's nest that is the gaming community with a stick, they're going to get their ratings and hits, which translates to $$$ in their pockets.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 8:56PM JoshMilewski said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
g.Park and Zetross, you're both basically saying the same thing.

They're just out for money -- a business defending itself.
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 2:11AM (Unverified) said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report

Good point g.Park and Zertoss. Once you both put it in that perspective, it does make more sense. Good feedback, thanks :)
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:23PM quickshade said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
So I'm more likely to think it's ok to kill someone if I play video games.....sounds like BS to me.
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 8:35AM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
No those are easy thoughts.

Of course exposure to violence increases the tolerance of violence. It is a basic idea. Just like if someone were to practice math they would become better at math: an exposure to violence makes it easier to view, and act out, violence. Look at some the responses in this thread for proof. It's embarressing to be a gamer sometimes.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:23PM vidguy said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
This just in: Victorian leaders remind us that sports, entertainment, and sex are immoral and evil things that will send us to hell. Save your soul; stop reading that book, watching that movie, listening to that music, or whatever else they are saying is bad for you these days.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:39PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
lmao fox news ftl... that is the dumbest thing i have heard all day
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:24PM Zertoss said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
In related news, a recent study has confirmed that news outlets spin the reports and quotes to support the story they WANT to report in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 12:03AM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
the fifth season of the wire (HBO) actually portrays this exact problem. the media will misrepresent, make up quotes and not correctly check their facts. the agenda is pretty simple. IF IT BLEEDS IT LEADS. Rather than just tell report the actual news and let the audience decide for themselves if the information is pertinent or not they use the Dickensian effect and compartmentalize the news. Rather than diving into the issue at hand they give you a one sided narrow view.
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 12:38AM jhowlett said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
uhm, the dickensian aspect that is refereed to in the wire is about the poor. as in Charles Dickens and the things he wrote about
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:25PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
I think I'm going to go and kill someone, since that's all we do anyway.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:27PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
Emotional Arousal is Thoughtcrime.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:27PM Neon Jebus said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
Well I guess the same could be said about soldiers. But seeing how much PTSD is an issue in the armed forces I don't think killing / violence ever really becomes...normal.

Sure from time to time...but those people probably don't play games...they would rather torture animals and the like.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:27PM (Unverified) said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
Perhaps it shows that we ARE emotionally affected by killing in a good way, as in, "man this is something i would never really do because it's awful".

They should do these scans during:
-dramatic parts of FFVII
-playing barbie games
-playing god of war and finding out that you killed *************
-THE READING OF THESE RIDICULOUS REPORTS

I bet reading these reports induces more violent urges than games.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:30PM Shagittarius said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
When are people going to learn that a portrayal of violence is not the same thing as actual violence?
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:33PM Mr Khan said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
I've been desensitized to slicing people in half with my beam katana
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 10:46PM Geist said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
I'm been desensitized to 'charging' my 'beam katana', if you get my drift.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:34PM (Unverified) said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
Really... one thing is the discussions that we all of us have here in Joystiq, but in general, gamers are one of the less violent people out there.

I'm not a violent person, I don't curse, I don't like to fight and I don't yell to people.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:41PM Crono141 said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
Agreed. And this could be because people with actual violent tendencies don't find the virtual violence of video games stimulating enough for them.

VIDEOGAMES IS NOT A GATEWAY DRUG TO A VIOLENT LIFESTYLE.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 11:08PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
Oh you can't simplify it as that. We "gamers" tend to mock polls for the same reason but you'll account for your levelheadedness as proof that violence in the media (which includes videogames) couldn't possibly affect a person? I'm not saying they are 100% right but I'm not going to wave such notions as 100% nonsense. I mean who knows. Besides, just because one hasn't killed someone doesn't mean one will never ever kill someone in the future (which even then isn't necessarily related to videogames or violence in the media but that's besides the point).

I'm not taking sides here, it's just that I typically see a pattern that when someone says "videogame violences is bad," most gamers just do a knee jerk reaction like it was some big insult. They'll blame the parents, they'll blame society, they'll blame television, anything that'll pass the buck (not unfairly mind you) but then denounce the parent who doesn't want violent videogames in their house for their kids like it was an abuse to the child's right or something (but then Angelina Jolie gets props because she gives her child such toys and throwing knives). Even an article of saying videogames are good for you, and most gamers won't even question it. They sum it up all together as one sweeping statement even if, say, the article was more about games like Brain Training as oppose to the next FPS game. And that's just it, not all games are necessarily bad but not all games are necessarily good either. I personally believe things affect different people in different ways, so I'm not inclined to believe such studies are poppycock.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:38PM (Unverified) said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
I have become so desensitized to violence that it bores me. That may make me insensitive, but it certainly doesn't make me violent.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:43PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
Oh, and by the way... I live in the border, I have double citizenship and I have a house in Mexico and one in US.

Now... you think that videogames are violent or ... you should see all the kind of violence here in the border... fucking drug cartels are sick, sick, sickos. They usually don't kill innocent people, but still, the way the kill other criminals is very sick.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 5:08PM Jakey777 said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
We know Fernando, we know.


BTW you should try hanging out in London after 10pm.If you're in some bad area, you're certain to get beaten up by a bunch of 15 year olds. Hell; I live around Hounslow which is a generally decent area, but no fucking way I would go to Airpark at night. It's not as bad as in Fernando's case but ffs they're fifteen-year old chavs.

In fact I'd love to have all these chavs playing video games instead of hanging out on the streets,terrorizing people and doing drugs.

More jerks on Halo,less violence on streets.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 6:41PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@ JakubK666

This is why I find it highly ironic (do not worry the US does this too) that the UK Government is like "Violence is wrong, get rid of it. Its not like we have had violence in the UK!"

Its like....HELLO! Do you walk your own fucking streets or payed attention to European History class? VIOLENCE IS IN YOUR BLOOD! No amount of E rated games is going to change that!

The stuff that goes on in Manhunt 2 is like Candyland compared to some of the horror stories I have read!
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:44PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
wait. there's something not normal about killing?
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 5:02PM Korova Pamplona said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
No, no, its normal, settle down.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:52PM Vidikron said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
I'm not sure how many virtual people I've kill in my gaming career, but it has to be at least 5 figures. But I have yet to kill even a single real person. So at what should I expect this normalization to occur? Will it be like a switch is turned on and I'll suddenly go crazy and kill someone? I'd like to know so I can gauge how much quality gaming time I have left outside of prison.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:55PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
They should do a study on the effects of kids watching the news...They would probably get some of the same results...
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 6:41PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
Funny you mentioned that, because I remember how the Psychiatric people told the News Agencies of America to stop replaying 9/11 footage because they were severally damaging people's brains.

Somehow that was not a big news story. Hmmm...
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:58PM Korova Pamplona said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
I was desensitized to violence and "normalized" killings when I read in history books that Nazis, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, various US presidents, the Crusaiders, Alexander the Great and other ancient leaders etc. ...
turned the machinery of the state and society to the task of systematic killings of vastly larger multitudes than are available in video games and millions of people throughout history joined these projects with gusto and skillful dedications.

From the perspective of historical violence that is justified by the state and ideology, game violence is just that - games.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 5:00PM Korova Pamplona said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
But that maybe irrelevant in Omaha as the only person who reads any kind of books in Nebraska is Warren Buffett.
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 2:23AM ILPC said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
hey! Not all people from Omaha are backward! I live there!

Of course I've only lived there for 2 years and grew up on the east coast and now that I think about it I haven't read nearly as many books since I moved there..omg! I'm turning into one of them! You may be right!
Reply

Posted: Feb 9th 2008 12:09PM Korova Pamplona said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
Present company from Nebraska excluded. :)
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 4:59PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
That area will light up just as much playing Mario. Its the FUN center of the brain. Love how they slant it one way.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 5:00PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
sorry this report is rubbish.

Do I agree that in some ways, entertainment desensitizes us on topics such as murder, sex, etc etc. Yeah. But it's fucking ridiculous to think that video games make people think it's "normal" to kill people.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 5:01PM SpeeGold said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
THIS JUST IN: CNN is reporting that video games cause brain cancer and the only cure is watching CNN.
Reply

Posted: Feb 8th 2008 5:05PM (Unverified) said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
CNN BREAKING STORY:

Cnn is here to report that if you play a video game, one day in your life YOU WILL DIE
Reply
Sorry, you must be logged in to leave a comment.

Featured Stories

Engadget

TUAW

Massively

WoW