25. Only 2 paid for it, and one of them uploaded it to Pirate Bay.

Hmm, 25? That means 23 of them pirated it. Which means one of the other two leaked it! >_>

Chris, we must have read each other's minds.

It is my belief that Chris and Sora267...are clones.

Either that or they both subscribe to the Ricochet Infinity "We be Pirates!" newsletter.

I vote clones.

probably a few million. Not sure how many paid for it though. It's an awesome game, and there's no way in telling how many pirated a game, it's an offline game to begin with.

A small developer is even more likely to be hurt by this than a big company. I was just reading a post elsewhere from a Mac developer whos latest game is cracked and up on The Pirates Bay 5 days after it was released.

And FFS. And unless you buy 360 and PS3 games from the high street games are cheap. Wii for £27 (Sainsbury's), 360/PS3/DS/PSP from import online retailers for about 30-50% less than high street and PC games from Steam.

Or screw that and stick with older, cheaper consoles if you can't afford that.

????

What does that have to do with going green?

I've no idea but they keep telling us we're all doomed.

Gaming's going to be pretty crappy if piracy forces out the smaller studios.

when developers go bankrupt and stop producing games im not going to stop pirating lol.

You see james, im a pirate because I have a brain. Why pay when I get it free? If I have no choice but to pay, then ill pay. But if I know for a fact I can play without paying, I would be an idiot just to pay for it anyway. Do I care about developers? No I dont and im sure they dont care about me. What happens the day no quality games are made anymore because of piracy? Well thats not gonna happen, but lets say it did, I wont game anymore. Sorry but I look at life on a grande scale. Nothing bothers me, nothing offends me. Sure I enjoy being kind hearted generally, but im no saint. Life Is short, im living it. Not a care in the world. people like james however care a little too much. getting all rilled up about people like me who dont even effect him personally (assuming your not a game developer).

99.9% of pirates like me have no intention of taking the time to crack games copy protections and drm schemes. If it where not for those crackers out there, Piracy wouldnt exsist. So blame them. I dont blame you for poluting the enviroment with you gas guzzling car, I blame the manufacture for making it possible for you to do so. And actually I dont really care about that either. now ive gone off topic.

It's basically breakout on steroids.

That's a moronic and stereotypical statement. Everyone knows girls don't use the internet and even if they did they aren't gamers and certainly don't understand the **vast complexity** involved in pirating software.

** = aha.. ha... ha

But seriously I'd say statisticly speaking more males pirate software (casual or not) than women while there are more female shoplifters (which was true in recent years via statistical reports). Honestly I may sound sexist but the most your average woman is pirating is music, and even then they may not realize what they are doing is ethicly wrong (but that goes for males and females). I base this last statement off of what is considered socially standard or acceptable of girls in american society and most people conform to said standard more or less. It is a culture thing.

Pirating is as simple as downloading music, though it does take someone with a little know how to upload it first.
I'm sure though the vast majority of those pirating casual games are women, men don't really like that crap and as I said before women don't understand the medium.

You know buddy, I really can't tell if that is sarcasm or you're just a jackass. Perhaps it's neither and you're some sort of deeply disturbed closet case.

In any case you're creeping me out dude, go back and beat your wife, scream loudly at sports games and get drunk when you aren't doing the other two so you can feel like a man.

I'll go over here and have fun being secure in my masculinity while enjoying "gay or feminie" games such as Solitare, Tetris, Guitar Hero, N, Rez, Viva Pinata, Lego Star Wars, Ecco the Dolphin and anything on the Wii/DS.

Umm, add Peggel to that list please.

I'd add Peggle to the list but the overdosing of pachinko has left me in a vegetative state.

From article: "Put another way, for every 1,000 pirated copies we eliminated, we created 1 additional sale."
This pretty much supports your argument. That is why DRM really has to make sure it is not so bad as to put off customers as you can stand to lose more customers because of really crappy DRM than if you didn't have DRM in the first place. Of course, it is always best if you come up with DRM that doesn't intrude on paying customers while also being effective.

Exactly right. People pirate casual games so much because they don't see getting that much value from the purchase. You'd have a lot less pirates if the game cost 5 bucks instead of 20.

I wouldn't even pay $5 for Breakout. It's Breakout. I made Breakout myself in Visual Basic a few years ago.

I've spoken with apes more polite than you!

I once owned a dog that was smarter than you!

While I haven't the slightest clue how they determine the gender, what's up with you and getting all worked up about it? Profiling is everywhere in society, everywhere. You can't turn on CNN nowadays without hearing about women voters or black voters in the primaries. Most of that is bunk, since most of those polls are done by small samples. I'm sure they can easily twist the info to give a more favorable result as well.

Personally, I think most of these stories are just BS, much like how the IRS puts out huge amounts of press releases, in the months before April, about people getting caught for tax evasion, it's all about molding the public's perception or opinion.

@Shawn

Oh I agree with you dude, I'm not getting worked up with that. I was just attacking the fellow above for being ignorant. Don't usually specifically attack people but it felt appropriate. As for my "excitement" regarding this topic is how absurd it is, not because of my distaste for how they may have gone about getting said figures. In fact I was doing a bit of profiling myself in a manner of speaking, I'm mad at this company for their absurd statements and the fact that they think we'll buy into this or believe it in the slightest, and of course not taking responsibility for their current situation and the outcome of their business ventures. Then when I realize how many people have/do go along with it further fuels the passionate hate burning within me.

But yeah, if you've ever seen me around you'd probably get the general idea of how I post. I've been a vocal and frequent member of the Joystiq community since its conception in the summer of 2004. Though I've changed handles once and my e-mail for this name after finally getting a Gmail account and ditching client based e-mail.

casual developers are 99 percent on PC, and will always be on PC. It's where the overwhelming majority of casual gamers are. Releasing games over XBL/PSN has nothing to do with piracy. Popcap makes an insane amount of money with their titles, it's disgusting.

You fight like a dairy farmer!

How appropriate. You're a cow.

lolz