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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:35AM (Unverified) said

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Its very hard to think that people actually pay for download songs...

Last night I downloaded a torrent with 500+ Don Dokken songs.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:36AM (Unverified) said

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I meant, Deep Purple...
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:45AM Vidikron said

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Not everyone is a pirate.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:49AM (Unverified) said

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So, are you saying that you never have downloaded a single song from a free p2p client?

Yeah, right.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:55AM (Unverified) said

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I don't. Not when it's about 70p a song.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:56AM FredFredrickson said

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Not that this applies to any of the bands in Rock Band, but if you've got the money to do so, there's nothing wrong with supporting the artists you really enjoy listening to. Especially if they aren't under some big label, or sell their stuff online-only, etc.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 1:11PM cesaria said

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I d/l and if I like it, I buy it. If I don't, I delete it. And I see nothing wrong with that. If all you ever did was d/l, there would be no money to produce those great records you love. I d/l Radiohead's In Rainbows for free in October and went out and bought it the first day it came out, even though it was completely legal for me to d/l it off their site. I'm not trying to knock you Fernando, because I've had my fair share of d/ling without eventually paying, but be fair to the artists who make the music for you.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 2:00PM masterinsan0 said

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I used to pirate music, but two things made me stop.
1) Disposable income. When I had the money to blow on music, I was more likely to do so.
2) Writing music. Sure, even pirated music gives you exposure to a wider audience...but gee, I sure would like to make some of that $600 I dropped on SONAR 6 back.

Think twice before you pirate the music. If it's music you know you will/would like, buy it instead. Amazon runs an MP3 service now where you can get full albums at 256kbps for like $8.

On the other hand, if you're just trying it out, then buy it if you like it (or, as I often do, buy their next CD rather than the one you just downloaded). If you don't like it, then don't worry about it. A responsible person would delete it from their computer if they didn't like it...but eh, no one (except the RIAA) will blame you if you "forget".
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 4:46PM MarkHawk said

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I got all these songs + All downloadable songs + Bonus songs off of Zune for 15 dollars!!! Sure it's a monthly fee, but If I normally buy 1 album a month I can buy as many a month as I want now. Hey ... it's legal and supporting the artist. The only artist I couldn't download off the Zune network was Radio head which I already had so it wasn't a big deal.

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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:37AM Burritoclock said

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Wow, if I bought this it would be exactly $73.26 more then I have spent on music in probably a decade...

Unless you count RockBand DLC, DO YOU HEAR THAT RECORD COMPANIES!!!!
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:38AM NBShermanator said

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...500? right...
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:47AM (Unverified) said

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It was a saying... but it has every song, rare songs, studio, live, solist performace, videos, covers.

I have almost the entire collection in LP, but it's a chore change the disc (just like 15 minutes each side of the record).

But honestly... I find the quality of the LP record better than a CD... really. (well, not the quality, the feeling).
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:54AM (Unverified) said

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By the way... I don't have a single music CD... since the invention of the music CD's, I have never purchased a single CD...

I go to Second Chance (a little store here in Laredo, Tx) and buy some tapes or LP.

I bought 3 tapes of Uriah Heep at .75 cents each, and a Whitesnake LP at $1.50 last week =)
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:00PM prime8 said

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"but it's a chore change the disc"

i thought changing discs wasn't a big deal... or is that only for games?





sorry... i couldn't resist.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 5:01PM (Unverified) said

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^^^

OMG, win!!!!
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:38AM Crono141 said

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Or you know, you could torrent the tunes for free, since you already paid for them when you bought the game.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:39AM Crono141 said

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(only applicable to those who bought the game)

But seriously, who else is going to buy the "Rock Band Song Pack"?
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:54PM D3m0sthenes said

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Crono: THE ANTI-APPLE/AEROSMITH TROLL!

Fernando: THE ANTI-SONY/EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T 80S TROLL!

Noshino/Shag: THE ANTI-NINTENDO TROLLS!

Co: THE ANTI-EVERYTHING BUT NINTENDO TROLL!

Krazy Ken: THE ANTI-LOGIC TROLL!

Spartacus: THE MICROSOFT OWNS YOUR SOUL TROLL!

Sheppy: THE MULTIPLE PERSONALITY TROLL!(I had to do it:P)

Raikage: THE I HATE EVERYONE, LEAVE ME ALONE, I'MA GONNA GO PLAY PORTAL TROLL WHO HAPPENS TO LIKE APPLE'S PRODUCTS.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 3:56PM blash said

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@ Crono

about to post that, my thoughts exactly.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:42AM Bentzero said

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This is for those that like to bend over and get raped.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:47AM Vidikron said

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Meh... it's 75 songs. You're not really getting raped on the price. It's just kind of lame that they wouldn't give at least a small discount for buying the bundle.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:49AM (Unverified) said

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apple doesn't give anything away. In fact it's their company model to sell less for more. Apple should die.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:50AM Crono141 said

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"Apple" and "Discount" don't belong in the same sentence, unless the sentence is something like "Apple will never give you a discount! Are you kidding!?"
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:53AM (Unverified) said

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Wait what. Apple have had easily available education discounts for the last 7 years, and buying for business needs nothing more than a VAT registration code (make friends with a shop).

That and every year they have an offer on laptops+free iPod for students (only requires instute name and city, too easy to cheat).

Probably should research more yea.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:05PM SoCoolCurt said

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@ Crono

i doubt its a big chain store or anything but there are drug stores where i live (east coast Maryland) that are called "Apple Discount Drugs". i just thought it was funny after reading your comment about "Apple" and "Discount" in the same sentence lol.

ok ill leave now lol
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:28PM (Unverified) said

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@ James
The stuedent discount is nice I bought 2 iMacs and a Macbook that way. Now my husband works for a company that's partners with Apple so we get the company discount. It save a few hundred off every Mac.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:50AM (Unverified) said

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I don't play Rock Band games (and whatever that other one is called) but Apple need to sort out them playlists on iTunes Store. They should do away with the user created ones and make more official ones that come with a discount.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:52AM (Unverified) said

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Timmy and the Lords of the Underworld are in Rock Band?! Why have I never heard this before?!
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:55AM Crono141 said

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Too busy watching girls sleep with girls?
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:59AM (Unverified) said

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Get out of my head!
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 2:01PM ThornedVenom said

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You've never heard it before because you're:

"TIMMY!! LIVIN A LIE!!!!"
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 11:57AM (Unverified) said

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Apple has nothing to do with this other than placing it on their store, what's everyone whining about?
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:00PM Crono141 said

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From the looks of things, how stupid it is the buy this song pack.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:01PM (Unverified) said

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Seriously you must be new to Joystiq. Any mention of Apple and they seem to really angry. I think Apple ran over their dog or something.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:01PM (Unverified) said

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I understand that, but people are holding Apple accountable for it, but they have nothing to do with it. It would be up to the content owners to offer a discount.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:08PM SoCoolCurt said

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everyone is complaining because they have the iTunes store confused with Sam's Club. yea it would be nice if they gave a discount but there isnt a rule that says they have to. i doubt many people will buy it anyway, especially the people who this is aimed at, since they already bought the songs when they bought the game.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:11PM (Unverified) said

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I bought Orange Box, why should I pay for the Orange Box OST?
I sat through many a films, does that mean I'm allowed to skip the OST CD and just download from a torrent?
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:25PM SoCoolCurt said

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@ James

who said something about downloading from a torrent (in this particular conversation)? i was merely stating that most people wont buy it because they have already purchased the FULL songs in an interactive format. thats much different from a movie soundtrack like you stated where you only get a snippet of the song in most cases. i buy good movie OST's all the time but i have yet to buy one from a game. i could be in the minority though.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 1:06PM Crono141 said

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James, I guess you thinking ripping CD's to MP3 is stealing too. You've paid for all the songs in rock band, not just to play with, but to listen too. Copyright precedent states that shifting formats of media you already own is fair use.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 4:35PM (Unverified) said

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I do rip my CD's to a digital file format (MP3? WTF why would I rape my sound library with that?). I'd just rather give extra money to the musicians of a game/show/film when they do something right. Short of being a vocal internet user it tells them I liked it and would like them to make more.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:45PM (Unverified) said

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Why is everyone so fucking entitled? What the hell does any company owe you? Sure, you gave them money at some point in time, but you got a product or service, correct? If people though a product wasn't worth the price then nobody would buy it and, get this, the price would drop.
And people that pirate shit need to stop acting like they're fighting the Revolutionary War. You are thieves. Stop justifying stealing by trying to attach it to an ideology; it's a Christina Aguilera song for fuck's sake.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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I love you.

I wonder what that pirate Mike makes about all this?
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 1:29PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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"Entitlement Unlocked: Free Christina Aguilera track now available through Limewire"
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 2:07PM (Unverified) said

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"Why is everyone so fucking entitled? What the hell does any company owe you?"

Every company owes me the decency of a fair deal... AND I'm entitled to my own opinion of fair.

I'm answering this time so I never have to hear an idiot ask that dumb question again. Consumer outcry is one way to voice one's opinion of what is fair, with the intent to hopefully change the market. Telling others to stop and not care makes me lump you in the same category as those that pay full price at a used car lot.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 2:27PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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Sparki -

What if you were that used car salesman trying to make ends meet, and a customer threw a hissy fit because they couldn't buy the car they wanted for $90 instead of the tag price of $9,000. I know that's not a very good analogy, but not everyone at big companies like Apple swim in Scrooge McDuck-sized vaults of cash, despite what you may think. There are real people behind those logos, and these companies have to spend money to make money (and yes, I know they cut corners where they can).

All W.R.E. is saying is that so many people act as though they're entitled to everything at all times at the cheapest possible price; damn-near free. While you may call it consumer assertiveness, pirating music for free is NOT an example of this...it's people getting a product/service for FREE that someone had to pay to produce, i.e. LOSS. And if you think that music is somehow cheap to produce, then an idiot is you. Sure, you could cut out certain paychecks to corporate suits, but there's still a lot of overhead tied up in production. Marketing, Physical Production, Shipping, Stocking Fees...just to name a few. While I can agree that no consumer should just bend over and take it up their Hershey Highway "just because", you should understand that companies are already trying to give you the best pricing per cost because of something besides public outcry: It's called competition. And big companies such as Apple aren't in this game primarily to make you happy. They're in this game to make money.

I'll presume that you also bitch at your waiter/waitress when the fries come out too crispy/not crispy enough. Way to make your voice heard.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 3:15PM Crono141 said

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So you're saying the consumer should be happy with getting screwed at retail as long as it helps somebody pay the bills?

What kind of f*ed up communist world do you live in?
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 3:18PM (Unverified) said

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Sparki,

"Every company owes me the decency of a fair deal..."

Wow. There are so many things wrong with this argument that I almost don't know where to start. Companies don't owe you shit. This is why we live in a competition driven market...so you can vote with your dollar. Companies are around to make money.

"...AND I'm entitled to my own opinion of fair."

No shit? This is just your opinion? Are you telling me that what you're saying isn't incontrovertible fact? So there's a really good chance that you could be wrong? Oh. Good.

"Telling others to stop and not care makes me lump you in the same category as those that pay full price at a used car lot."

Except at a used car lot it's a generally accepted practice to haggle. Do you bitch about the dollar menu at Wendy's to get a lower price? This is why people at retail hate morons like yourself.

"Consumer outcry is one way to voice one's opinion of what is fair, with the intent to hopefully change the market."

Yeah, crying on Joystiq is what most people consider to be "consumer outcry". Delusions of grandeur FTW! Let us know how that works out for you.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 4:36PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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Crono-

It's a perfectly acceptable practice to haggle over price when it comes to considerably larger transactions, but to haggle over $0.99 songs is pretty pathetic. If you're willing to have a bitch-fight with iTunes over their content price, just remember two things:

1) There are other people in the world besides you. These people need jobs and money too. Try working in the corporate sector sometime, it will open your eyes to how many expenses really eat into a profit margin. It's not "communism", it's called "not being a self-centered egomaniacal individual with no concern for others". There is no entitlement that everyone will agree on that puts you ahead of everyone else in line, except in your own mind.

2) If you want to try and ask iTunes to pay YOU to download their music, I will gladly support you so long as the music-in-question is Metallica's album St. Anger. They should have to pay ANYBODY to download that shit-bomb.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 12:50PM mykalt45 said

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Does anyone know what it takes to unlock Timmy and The Lord of the Underworld or whatever? I have the others, but didn't realize there were others. I am on hard with the solo tour on drums.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2008 1:07PM Crono141 said

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That is a legitimate question.

If I had to guess, I'd say complete the "Endless Setlist"
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