The problem isn't the engine, it's Microsoft's paranoia and refusal to allow something as crazy as *gasp!* free community-made content. God forbid any of us paying XBL subscribers realize that it's possible to get new content for games without being nickel and dimed for it and having it wrapped in DRM.

It has nothing to do with the engine nor does it have anything to do with Epic getting everything out of the 360.
This issue has everything to do with Microsoft's limitation of its online capabilities.
I simply don't understand Microsoft preaching its openness so openly, yet impeding real user created content, and more importantly, impeding Epic freaking games from ever making it a reality on the 360.
It’s bullshit and it makes no sense!

Microsoft does allow developer moderated downloadable content, but Epic doesn't want to use it for some reason. Mods are completely possible, but for some reason Epic is being dumb about it.

Xbox Live Silver Platform:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161957

Epic is a fudging liar when it comes to this stuff.

I'm just thinking the game itself could easily be released on the 360 now and Epic can have a later update support modifications when they get it all sorted out with Microsoft. UT mods have traditionally been awesome, as is Epic's attitude and support for them, but I'm sure a lot of people would buy the game without them.

It has to do with the fact that they like a closed secure system to have as much reliability as possible. If they open it up and allow users to upload content to Xbox LIVE, risks for hacking other member's Xboxes would come into existence, possibly stealing credit card numbers and such.

I don't think it has so much to do with them being stubborn rather than they would rather keep things safe.

Yeah, let the truth get rated down, go ahead. I want to see one of these videogame journalists (this is not directed at Joystiq, because Joystiq is a blog) actually start pressing developers and publishers on stuff. Go up to Mark Rein and ask him directly, "Why aren't you using the Xbox Live Silver Platform?" There is probably a simple answer, but right now it looks like Epic is playing hard to get or something.

Shaddap already.

just you, there's a reason for being so pro PS3 it's the only blu-ray player on the market now that will do EVERYTHING BR is suppose to do in the future. Profile issues.

@ HB96st

I'm starting to see it as well.

Please, read into it enough and Joystiq is anti-everything

@HB96st, NO U!!!!!

My thoughts exactly.

How can you rant and rave about the possibilities available through XNA for users to create their own amazing games and then deny a game of its ability to release user-made mods?

There are a lot of fantastic games (and developers) out there who had their roots as mods.

el oh el... yeah cuz you have to pay for XNA... MS needs the money from people who make the games... so they can turn around and charge everyone else for said game... seem logical to me. wait... wut?

@sky shark

The game is awesome to begin with. But it is primarily an on-line game and the user created content adds TONS of replay-ability to the game. The 3rd person view mutator makes it feel like a completely different game. I think Microsoft is being extremely overly cautious and thinks the flood gates will open for other games if they allow it. Too bad for 360 exclusive owners because the extra content (mutators, 3rd person, game modes, mod's, skins and levels) adds an infinite amount of replay to the game. I suspect that hard core X-Bots will not buy it anyway simply because PS3 had it first and to them that makes the game terrible.

It's nice that joystiq lets the mentally handicapped participate.

Microsoft wants digital downloads not Sony...WTF is wrong with you??? That was just random babble anyway...

I would just avoid UT3 all together because it sucks ass.

TF2 and cod 4 are available for 360 and better versions too seen as TF2 port was done by ea for the ps3!!

Oh Jesus Henry Christ I tried to keep my mouth shut on this one. I really did but DAMN some of these comments are asinine. Unreal Tournament has ALWAYS been about user created content. Remember when all you little moron kids discovered Halo? OK that was practically a generation AFTER most PC gamers had worn out their 2nd or 3rd keyboard playing UT. This is why consoles should stick to their wonky FPS wannabe games and leave UT to the PC where people can create their own maps, skins, mods etc. and play them FOR FREE. MS won't adopt this philosophy because they want to A) Keep XBL closed and safe from viruses and other crap that would only ruin your experience anyway and B) They would want to charge for user created content and then be the bad guys because its free everywhere else. Why go that route? Why knowingly implement a plan that's going to make you look like a turd sandwich? You'd have to butcher the editor into another BS Halo style editor, which is flat out junk compared to UT's, plus it would probably cost more to do that than its worth. This isn't Epic's fault and its really not MS's fault either - it's just the way it is so buck up and stop the crying. Play it on PC. Trust me. You'll enjoy it a whole lot more, especially if you want to play new maps, mods and get the most out of the UT experience. Otherwise go back to Halo and talk smack with the children.