GDC08: Sakurai on Super Smash Bros. Brawl development
At a surprisingly sparsely attended Friday morning session (relatively speaking), Masahiro Sakurai detailed the development processes behind upcoming super smash hit, Super Smash Bros. Brawl. First, he apologized for the game's North American delay, saying "Reggie said he would make a whole lot of extra copies to make up for that." Well, thanks ... we guess?
First, he explained the construction of the team, saying they were "structured like mercenary horde." Since Sakurai works as a freelance designer (his company is really just two employees, including himself) he assembled the 100+ person team for Smash for this project, and not everyone was full-time. Moving onto the most obvious topic: character selection. With Smash's extensive roster, Sakurai said most of the characters were "finalized in planning documents" before production even began. One of the few exceptions was Sonic, says Sakurai. "To tell you the truth, the decision to include Sonic was not made until 2007." Apparently, even some Nintendo characters could not be included because of "rights issues" -- we're not sure which characters he may be referring to.
One of the most difficult aspects of assembling this varied roster was creating a consistent aesthetic. Even though "the Wii is not a high-definition console" it still offers a visual fidelity that exceeds the simple nature of many of the roster's official character models. Having photorealistic models fight cartoon models would appear unnatural, so he endeavored to make some small changes to help bridge that gap. Take Mario who, in Nintendo's official model, has bright blue overalls; in the Smash model, he's wearing denim overalls, with more detail on the stitching. Same for Pikmin's Olimar: they replaced the official model's flat suit with a more detailed spacesuit replete with straps and knobs. Pit from Kid Icarus was another situation entirely: the character model hadn't been updated in 20 years, so they had to redraw him entirely. The new model looks nothing like the old cartoon. Sakurai says they looked at the most recent Link model from Twilight Princess and considered the evolution of that character when considering how to update Pit.
Moving onto the motion and animation in the game, Sakurai revealed that he used a posable 4" Microman figurine (abundant in Japan, apparently) to show his artists and animators the basic poses he wanted for each character. He would take 30 to 50 pictures for each character, creating an inventory of available poses that would later be animated together "without the aid of motion capture, everything was done by eye." A series of slides show the fidelity between his Microman pictures and the final Smash character renders, revealing a painstaking process that nevertheless gave Sakurai unique control over the art without a lengthy trial and error process.
The more intangible elements of each character, like weight and inertia, Sakurai did all by hand. Consider the example he gave comparing the jump animation of Mario and Samus in both character's original games. Mario returns to the ground quickly, while "Samus' jump has more float to it than Mario's." The reason for this isn't because "Samus' games take place in outer space" (there goes our theory) but because "players needed to be able to fire at enemies and doors from an arbitrary height" in Metroid. He noted that in the Sonic games, the character transitions from a relatively slow walk to a very fast run, and that transition is "exhilarating" for players. Inversely, Snake is "probably the slowest" human character in the game, but powerful attacks and a variety of weapons balance out that handicap. Above all, when constructing a character, Sakurai says your "initial thoughts on the subject are truly invaluable." (Sounds to us like someone read Malcom Gladwell's Blink).
Lastly, he discusses the game's incredibly popular site, the Super Smash Bros. Dojo. While they've had homepages for the two previous games in the series, Brawl is the first title to get one outside of Japan. In fact, Dojo is published in seven languages, updated five times a week for a total of over 230 updates since its May 2007 launch. At the peak of the site, it got as many as 1m page views a day, and 5m page views a week. Says Sakurai, "If we hadn't launched Super Smash Bros. Dojo, there would not have been this much buzz about the game regardless of the franchise history."
First, he explained the construction of the team, saying they were "structured like mercenary horde." Since Sakurai works as a freelance designer (his company is really just two employees, including himself) he assembled the 100+ person team for Smash for this project, and not everyone was full-time. Moving onto the most obvious topic: character selection. With Smash's extensive roster, Sakurai said most of the characters were "finalized in planning documents" before production even began. One of the few exceptions was Sonic, says Sakurai. "To tell you the truth, the decision to include Sonic was not made until 2007." Apparently, even some Nintendo characters could not be included because of "rights issues" -- we're not sure which characters he may be referring to.
Gallery: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
One of the most difficult aspects of assembling this varied roster was creating a consistent aesthetic. Even though "the Wii is not a high-definition console" it still offers a visual fidelity that exceeds the simple nature of many of the roster's official character models. Having photorealistic models fight cartoon models would appear unnatural, so he endeavored to make some small changes to help bridge that gap. Take Mario who, in Nintendo's official model, has bright blue overalls; in the Smash model, he's wearing denim overalls, with more detail on the stitching. Same for Pikmin's Olimar: they replaced the official model's flat suit with a more detailed spacesuit replete with straps and knobs. Pit from Kid Icarus was another situation entirely: the character model hadn't been updated in 20 years, so they had to redraw him entirely. The new model looks nothing like the old cartoon. Sakurai says they looked at the most recent Link model from Twilight Princess and considered the evolution of that character when considering how to update Pit.
Moving onto the motion and animation in the game, Sakurai revealed that he used a posable 4" Microman figurine (abundant in Japan, apparently) to show his artists and animators the basic poses he wanted for each character. He would take 30 to 50 pictures for each character, creating an inventory of available poses that would later be animated together "without the aid of motion capture, everything was done by eye." A series of slides show the fidelity between his Microman pictures and the final Smash character renders, revealing a painstaking process that nevertheless gave Sakurai unique control over the art without a lengthy trial and error process.
The more intangible elements of each character, like weight and inertia, Sakurai did all by hand. Consider the example he gave comparing the jump animation of Mario and Samus in both character's original games. Mario returns to the ground quickly, while "Samus' jump has more float to it than Mario's." The reason for this isn't because "Samus' games take place in outer space" (there goes our theory) but because "players needed to be able to fire at enemies and doors from an arbitrary height" in Metroid. He noted that in the Sonic games, the character transitions from a relatively slow walk to a very fast run, and that transition is "exhilarating" for players. Inversely, Snake is "probably the slowest" human character in the game, but powerful attacks and a variety of weapons balance out that handicap. Above all, when constructing a character, Sakurai says your "initial thoughts on the subject are truly invaluable." (Sounds to us like someone read Malcom Gladwell's Blink).
Lastly, he discusses the game's incredibly popular site, the Super Smash Bros. Dojo. While they've had homepages for the two previous games in the series, Brawl is the first title to get one outside of Japan. In fact, Dojo is published in seven languages, updated five times a week for a total of over 230 updates since its May 2007 launch. At the peak of the site, it got as many as 1m page views a day, and 5m page views a week. Says Sakurai, "If we hadn't launched Super Smash Bros. Dojo, there would not have been this much buzz about the game regardless of the franchise history."












Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Marty @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:26PM
What, they aren't announcing like 20 more characters? Seems like they've announced a new character every day for the last year!
samfish @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:38PM
You obviously weren't paying attention. The wait for new characters in Brawl was often agonizing and painful!
Alas...there is no Mega Man. How sad.
Ghen @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:53PM
And no naked peach.. although I think I would be without bedtime privileges for a while for even playing her.
Nigeria @ Feb 22nd 2008 4:40PM
And no...urm...Naked Megaman.
Psaakyrn @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:34PM
I guessing that's why there isn't any SMRPG specific characters.
Curtis the Claw Game Master @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:39PM
Geno and Mallow would be unstoppable.
Zertoss @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:45PM
SMRPG was exactly what I thought of too. Square-Enix probably has some rights to characters like Geno and Mallow.
Also, no Axem Rangers or Smithy in the SSE. :(
Curtis the Claw Game Master @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:48PM
Axem Rangers and Smithy would be so sweet...I really wish Square Enix would make a SMRPG 2 with Nintendo.
The Artist formally known as Jesus @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:35PM
BRAWL INFORMATION
MUST
SPRUNGE
EVERYTHING
samfish @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:39PM
sniff sniff sniff
Xlnt @ Feb 22nd 2008 3:45PM
The second picture gallery is broken.
Christopher Grant @ Feb 22nd 2008 4:04PM
Should be fixed now.
Mr Khan @ Feb 22nd 2008 4:02PM
"Pit" is spelled with one "T"
(I don't like playing Grammar Gestapo)
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Feb 22nd 2008 4:13PM
In that same vein "Well, thanks we guess?" should have another comma between "thanks" and "we".
Geno @ Feb 22nd 2008 4:25PM
Also... horde, not hoard.
I'm sure Team Joystiq is just very tired!
32_Footsteps @ Feb 22nd 2008 4:55PM
I bet some of the characters that ran into rights issues were from Donkey Kong 64 - I think Rare still has control over some of those.
I wonder what caused there to be only two third-party characters playable, and a small handful in background scenes. Was it securing the rights? Trying to keep the Nintendo characters paramount? Too many developers hoping their characters first out-of-company appearance would be in Duke Nukem Forever? These are things we have to know.
Mr Khan @ Feb 22nd 2008 5:27PM
In the IGN interview, he claimed that it was partly trying to get them to fit neatly into continuity, and partly legal issues
However, from what i know of the Nintendo/Rare legal mess, Nintendo fully owns all rights of the Donkey Kong games published under Rare's name, and all characters thereof, its when you get outside of that (including Diddy Kong Racing), that you find problems
32_Footsteps @ Feb 22nd 2008 5:37PM
Ah, yes, because we all know how important continuity is in the Smash Bros. games.
I mean, we're talking about a game that had its genesis, literally, in arguments over which video game character could win in a fight. The frame story of the original game was that a mysterious hand was playing with its toys, and the sequel continued this (and included the other hand as a part of the final boss).
If you're telling me that you have no idea how to fit any character, ever, into *that* continuity, then you're not even trying.
TheOverlord#2 @ Feb 22nd 2008 5:17PM
Well with the new DLC announcement, maybe Brawl can get Mega Man(as long as he isn't a Samus clone)
Though I dont see how Ganondorf was a clone of C.Falcon(doesnt own Melee)...does he have "GANON PPPUUUNNNCCCHHH"?)
Zertoss @ Feb 22nd 2008 5:21PM
No, we're not getting Mega Man for SSBB ever. Sakurai has made this crystal clear.
No DLC for SSBB (other than user created stages) either.
Bacon Supreme @ Feb 24th 2008 8:29PM
He had a "Warlock Punch" that did exactly the same thing as a Falcon Punch, except it was slower, more powerful, and didn't look like a falcon.
Tatticus @ Feb 22nd 2008 8:07PM
Ganon's clone-ness of Capt. Falcon in melee comes from the fact that his special attacks (the B ones) are emulated from Capt. Falcon. There's no "Ganon Punch" per se, but his B attack is a powerful punch forward. Likewise, his up+b, forward+b and down+b follow Capt. Falcon's theme.
Hypershell @ Feb 22nd 2008 7:46PM
And just what "rights issues" kept you from including Mewtwo, HMMM, Sakurai?!!
Oh well, Brawl will rule all regardless, I know that. I just don't think I can forgive the axing of my 2nd main.
Wasserman @ Feb 24th 2008 11:48PM
"No, we're not getting Mega Man for SSBB ever. Sakurai has made this crystal clear.
No DLC for SSBB (other than user created stages) either."
Zertoss, when did he ever say that? Link please.
Brennan @ Feb 22nd 2008 10:23PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/853/853748p1.html
enjoy Wasserman!
TheOverlord#2 @ Feb 23rd 2008 1:11PM
He only said he "thinks" they aren't gonna do it. He didn't know about Nintendo's new DLC service, it seems that there may a be a small chance of DLC for Brawl though.
Ace Atomica @ Feb 22nd 2008 10:28PM
@Zertoss
It depends on what version of megaman we're talking about.
You got the megaman legend
Megaman original
Megaman.exe
Megaman X
if anything,they could get Bass from the original series,Zero from megaman x,or at least protoman from network.
Dio @ Feb 22nd 2008 11:41PM
MEGA MAAAAAAAAAAAN
hvnlysoldr @ Feb 23rd 2008 12:55AM
Poor Rock. He's a super fighting robot too.
John H. @ Feb 23rd 2008 9:36AM
Geno HAS made an appearance in a non-SMRPG game. He had a cameo in a minigame in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga. Presumably if he could be used in that (with appropriate credit thanks to Square Enix) he could appear in another game, especially given the thawing of relations between Nintendo and Square, and in a game as high-profile as Brawl.
I imagine the rights issues more likely center around Rare's output. People have already had a look at the contents of the Japanese Brawl disk and noticed that one of the abandoned characters in development was Dixie Kong.
There are probably some other games like that too. I was a little surprised Dr. Wright's in as an assist, considering that he's pretty much an homage to Will Wright, creator of SimCity.