Exactly take out the BC but give you an enhanced controller

The 80GB have BC

The old 80GBs do. Remember that the HDD is upgradeable. Will it have the GS chip inside? Time will tell.

The PS Blog also tells.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/02/26/destination-playstation-news-mgs-ps3-bundle-kratos-psp-and-dualshock3-release-date-by/

Read the bright red reply to post 4.

@wong-

80gigs only have software emulation FTL....60gig models FTW....

GS models get 85% BC last I heard. While it's not the 99% of the EE+GS model, it's no slouch either.

Short SOLD

MGS4/FF is anime lovers crap

IM SO GLAD I WAITED OR HAD TO WAIT LOL @ U!!!

IM SO GLAD I WAITED OR HAD TO WAIT LOL @ U!!!

heh, +1 for the reference sir ....

lol well ill make it and even plus 2 for you sir and ur reference.

If hardcore gaming is defined as MGS/FF, count me out.

That said, if this 80GB PS3 still has the half-decent backwards compatibility, I might just pick it up and sell MGS4 to whatever fool will buy it. I saved a good bit of cash doing much the same with the PS2+'s network adapter and ATV Off-Road Fury.

ditto

Each game sells fewer and fewer. Add in the PS3's price tag, and you'll find that Metal Gear Solid 4 won't sell as well as its predecessors.

But for the sake of argument lets say that:

* Everyone who buys Metal Gear Solid 4 ONLY buys the $500 80 Gig bundle
* Lets also say that Metal Gear Solid 4 sells as well as the original version did.

Yes, I know, both of these points are more than extraordinarily unlikely, but lets hold on for the sake of speculation...

So in our imaginary scenario, Metal Gear Solid 4 would sell around 5.6 million systems. That would take the PS3 from 10.35 million systems sold, up to an impressive 15.95 million PS3s sold worldwide - a number that is STILL BEHIND Microsoft's 17.22 million systems already sold.

Even in the very best case imaginable, where Metal Gear Solid 4 sells better than any other version AND every purchaser of Metal Gear Solid 4 ALSO purchases a PS3 it still will not sell enough systems to surpass Microsoft's 360.

Why does PS3 need to beat out total X360 sales on the back of one game? Thats fanboy logic you have there. PS3 doesn't need to beat X360 in any sort of total sales figure to be viable in this console generation. If MGS4 flops but PS3 continues to outsell X360 on a worldwide basis per month, all 3rd party developers will still make a PS3 version of their games, and thats all that matters to me.

Not sure why I'm bothering but...

The 80GB by itself at $499 has been selling more than the 40GB at $399.

So why exactly would the 80GB + MGS4 + DS3 + BC* at $499 not sell well??

I'm not expecting some kind of gigantic boost or anything but this is honestly the best deal on a PS3 that has come out since launch.

* Hopefully BC will still be there...

How do we know that this is *that* 80g machine (as opposed to a new hardware revision? Is back-compat confirmed for this?

Yes Sony, please put BC back in for this one. That way, people can play through the entire MGS series on one machine.

We don't, thats why I put a * after BC.

The press release does not mention it.

It won't sell well because it's still $499. It's JUST to expensive.

That's not to say it'll be the next Halo 3 Edition 360 or anything...but most people simply won't pay that much for a videogame console no matter what it comes with. Wii bundles sell for less than that often times and those comes with a hell of a lot more.

$399+MGS4 might be another story, though.

The point being, I should add, is that I don't see the logic in releasing an expensive $500 dollar bundle in the middle of summer. If you're going to do a special bundle like this, price it aggressively and put it out during a time when it'll actually sell.
Otherwise, like the Halo 3 360's, it'll just sit there and look unwanted...not a perception Sony can afford right now.

I'm not gonna argue that they should have been more aggressive with pricing since I agree with you. I'm hoping another price drop will hit before the holidays.

But my point was that its been selling at $500 without MGS4 or DS3 so this is a good move...but whatever.

Good news though - PS2 BC is confirmed for this 80GB model.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/02/26/destination-playstation-news-mgs-ps3-bundle-kratos-psp-and-dualshock3-release-date-by/#comments

@samfish "I don't see the logic in releasing an expensive $500 dollar bundle in the middle of summer."

I personally like it, as, like many teenagers, I only have a job during the summer. Since this'll be out by the time I get $500 from my job, I'll buy this bundle instead of some more 360 games. If it came out at around September, I'd have blown all my cash by then. And I'm sure some other kids are the same way.

@samfish.
good, i'm glad some people think it's too expensive. that way we don't get little kids like in XBL.
preteen online gamers, FTL.

oh.. the solid snake puns that could be made. ;)

This isnt exactly get off the fence kinda story.

Late 2Q08 means you'll be sittin' on that fence for a few more months. Hope you brought a pillow and a book or something.

This news actually says "No one buy a PS3 for the next 4 months unless you are going to use it only as a BD player. Buy your GTAIV for 360. kthxbuy"

lol you make it sound like people waiting on this will be sitting in caves drawing circles in the dirt. I don't know about other people but I'm still freakin' back-logged on games from the past holiday season, along with new games coming out.

Plus, the 4 months allows for me to set aside ~$125 a month instead of plunking down the 500 all at once.

@nick
It didn't go up an $100 dollars, they just replaced Motorstrom with MGS4 and the Sixaxis with the DS3. Still a great offer.

FF9? Are they remaking it?

I'm guessing a lot of people would be disappointed if they made a bundle with a PS3 and FF9.

wow total mental lapse. ff13 or whatever. my bad.

hahaha

sorry, this series of comments was funny.

$350 + DS3? I'd buy that in a heartbeat. As it stands, I'll get this MGS bundle unless something else comes out (like the one you just described, I'm not much of an MGS fan) It's clear that my PS2 is going to have to stick around anyway, as software emulation has issues with all my favorites, so a cheapo 40GB model would be just fine for me.

Dude, you win the award for using the word "bundle" the most times in a paragraph.