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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 7:05PM Mr Khan said

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I would think the concept of Zombies in all their myriad forms is widely used enough to be public domain however it goes, unless i thought up an idea about cops fighting zombies in a place called "gerbil city" and tried to pass it off as an original work
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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 7:23PM (Unverified) said

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Unless you can copyright zombies in a mall, I don't see how they could pull this off.

"Survivor 1: There are zombies everywhere, where do we go?" (Survivor 2: Lets hide in the mall.) "Survivor 1: We can't, Romero will sue us."

Be kind of hard to copy the original script if no one ever saw it, was it ever released in some way?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 7:31PM (Unverified) said

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What about a trade dress infringement arguement?

For example the zombies in Rising somehow resemble "signature" Romero zombies thereby causing a type of trade dress infringement. It would be a similar argument to that made by Two Pesos. See Two Pesos v. Taco Cabana, 505 U.S. 763, 764 n.1 (1992).

I recognize its is a stretch, but trade dress is a viable "4th option" to include in many infringement or dilution claims.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 7:34PM Daman09 said

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COMMENTS IS BROKED?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 7:51PM CB said

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WTF!!
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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 9:51PM (Unverified) said

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you dont get stung by a "queen", you have to be bitten by a zombie to become one, thats pretty much the only way. It cant be transfered by animals (they die if bitten though its unlikely they'll be bitten anyway) and if you eat zombie meat then you die, so really being bitten is the only way...you get all you need to know from the Zombie Survival Guide
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 9:13AM thranx said

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phew. I was worried about the queen. We had lunch the other day, so I'm glad she's not the contageous part of the whole affair.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 8:57PM (Unverified) said

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This is some of the biggest bullshit I have heard in a while. That is all.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2008 11:26PM Ranko said

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Zombie: Graghraggah! *Arm falls off*
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For all those who don't speak Zombie, I have provided a translation:

Zombie: OBJECTION! *Arm falls off*
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 1:20AM (Unverified) said

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I'm loving the disclaimer at the bottom. This will be the first Joystiq article to be bookmarked for me :D
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 3:03AM (Unverified) said

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@Justin: The whole Romero zombie concept is itself public domain because it originates in the public doman movie Night of the Living Dead. Besides, trade dress has to be registered and this was Romero's only zombies in a mall movie. The whole idea of applying trade dress to media rather than physical things doesn't make any sense.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 11:38AM (Unverified) said

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Reading my original post and your response I realize my post was unclear.

I wasn't referring to Romero's zombies as a concept. I understand that zombies as a concept are in the public domain. I was speculating that perhaps Romero's attorneys are making the argument that his zombies are unique in some way. That he has a "signature" zombie that Rising is in some way diluting or infringing.

Also, the point of the Two Pesos case is that trade dress does not have to be registered to be infringed upon or diluted. Two Pesos argued that its restaurants had a unique flare and that Taco Cabana was diluting that flare by mimicking it. The court agreed even though Two Pesos did not have a registered mark in its restaurant design.

That is the point with trade dress. It isn't registered. It can be, but typically the packaging of a product isn't a separate "mark" that is registed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. But as the court held in Two Pesos, trade dress is still a form of intellectual property that can (and should) garner protection if it is unique or "signature."
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 5:20AM (Unverified) said

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CAPCOM IS Lucky other companies dont sue almost all there games are ideas from movies and dead rising isnt the only one also lost planet so there lucky that the studio that inafune said the game come from in is head he thought of that movie so they can sue inafune for stealing idea and they might start sueing capcom alot like for taking the idea from zack and wiki nintendo might sue every thats trying to copy mario..haha capcom got caught tho thats funny out of all studio capcom only has two original idea like megaman and street fight and thats it .everything else was a copy
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 6:25AM (Unverified) said

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that is one HELL of a sentence.

also, i can just imagine the capcom idea guys:
ok, so he's a robot guy with a gun for a hand? BRILLIANT. and what's this 'street fighter' idea? two people? in the street? fighting? AMAZING!!11!! NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT ODF THAT BEFORE! (or the word ODF(c) :P
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 5:46AM ZeroCorpse said

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So their idea is that PLACE + MONSTER = OUR PROPERTY.

So any time there is an alien in the woods, I suppose Amblin Entertainment should be able to sue (they own E.T.) --- Predator? It's an alien in the woods and he wants to go home! SUE SUE SUE!

Should the Friday the 13th producers be able to sue if someone makes a game where you're being attacked by a psycho in a summer camp?

Should the makers of Texas Chainsaw Massacre be able to sue Sam Raimi for making Ash use a chainsaw as a weapon to kill other humanoids in a remote, run-down cabin?

Yes, Romero deserves major kudos for creating the cliches, but that doesn't mean he owns the very concept of zombies attacking a mall, just like Harold Ramis, Dan Akroyd and Ivan Reitman don't own the concept of a bunch of guys hunting ghosts in a hotel for money. They own the names of the guys, the appearance and name of their organization, and the design of their unique equipment. They own the dialogue. They own the likenesses of the actors. They do not own the concept of ghost-hunting, though. Combining it with a hotel or library doesn't make it any more "theirs".


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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 5:58AM (Unverified) said

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i hope nobody tries to make a movie about a plane. full of snakes.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 5:59AM (Unverified) said

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or a game, for that matter. (Whoops, drunk.)
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 7:28AM Vorbis said

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Land of the dead was zombies in a city, watch out RE2 you're next.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 6:28PM (Unverified) said

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I figured this was why Capcom put a huge disclaimer on the box that this game had nothing to do with Dawn of the Dead or Romero. I wonder how Romero himself feels about this, since he usually seems totally cool with homages/parodies.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 10:43AM (Unverified) said

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Representatives for the (un)dead had no comment on the subject.

Seriously though... they have a better chance of the makers of Shaun of the Dead (great film) than they do Dead Rising. You can tell they're running out of ideas when they try to trademark zombies and copyright or patent the word 'dead'.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 11:46AM hey buddy said

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"Seriously though... they have a better chance of the makers of Shaun of the Dead"

No, because that can be considered a parody, something you are allowed to do.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 1:04PM (Unverified) said

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I didn't say it was a good chance in either case.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 10:31AM burn1n9m4n said

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For a good legal precedent on this case Capcom should use "Lindows vs. Microsoft." As I recall Microsoft sued the makers of the linux distribution known as Lindows for "propagating consumer confusion" or something to that effect. In the end though the courts ruled in favor of Lindows. However, I don't specifically remember the grounds for their decision.
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 12:52PM (Unverified) said

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your a douche-bag, stop spamming for that retarded site
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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 1:38PM Jude said

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I'd like to pose a question and offer a different twist to the lawyers and law-focused here (or whoever, for that matter)...

What if Romero decided to make a game based on "Dawn of the Dead". How much more careful would he have to be to not copy "Dead Rising" than Capcom was to not copy his movies?

Does that make sense? Could this be the perspective they are coming from?

and/or:
Hypothetically, if he made the game (before filing this suit), wouldn't it have just been considered a "Dead Rising" rip-off and given momentum, publicly, to Capcom to sue even though the idea was his, orininally, in movie form?

Who would be copying who?
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Posted: Apr 9th 2008 9:53PM Lou3000 said

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If it had been a game based off of the movie it would be a derivative work, and the copyright holder has the rights to derivative works.


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Posted: Feb 29th 2008 6:16PM (Unverified) said

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Romero isn't the one doing the suing. If I recall correctly, Romero doesn't even own the rights to Dawn of the Dead, but rather, Richard Rubinstein does. So, don't go blaming George Romero for what that dickhead Rubinstein does, because not only does Romero most likely not even know of the game, even if he did, he probably wouldn't care.
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