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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:01PM (Unverified) said

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$20 for a 360? Whoever he sold that to is lucky!
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:09PM ummfada said

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Um, no.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:14PM R V said

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Um, yeah.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:38PM Withad said

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Well, I bet he was feeling pretty lucky right up until he realised that his $20 console was going to be seized by the police as stolen goods and evidence before being returned to the rightful owner.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:01PM Crono141 said

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Isn't the "rightful owner" a near psychopath committed and/or in jail currently?
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:04PM (Unverified) said

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my friend sold his 360core with call of duty 4 for $50 bucks in the flea market to some old guy
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:25PM Withad said

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@Crono
Well, returned to someone who's looking after the rightful owner's stuff. Either way, the guy basically paid $20 to have a 360 for a month then get involved in a police investigation.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:49PM Player1 said

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It doesn't say it was a 360, it just says an xbox console. Probably was an original xbox.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 4:33PM arttemis said

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@Player1: WTF, Did you even read the article?

"Bennett confessed to authorities that he and two friends had repeatedly broken in to Cossey's house last month to steal a variety of items, including an Xbox 360 that Bennett later sold to a classmate for $20."
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 4:38PM arttemis said

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disregard: I assume you were referring to the Philadelphia Daily News article's quote.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 5:08PM Player1 said

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LOL. Yes, I read the original article. I don't know where Joystiq got the 360 part.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 5:13PM Player1 said

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Dang Arttemis, you're getting voted up for that too. Perhaps I was the only one who did read the orginal article.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:02PM (Unverified) said

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Does he have a PS3 for sale? I already got a 360.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:03PM (Unverified) said

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So, what is this gist of this joystiq article? That we no longer refer to him as a "hero" (after potentially saving a classroom full of kids from death) because he was involved in petty larseny?

Sure, I can do that. Happy joystiq??????
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:09PM SheppyReturns said

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Considering the value of a 360 and how few additional items it would take to push the monetary value, I think we're looking at Grand Theft. Possibly even breaking and entering.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's this kind of behavior that was creating that shooter?
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:15PM SheppyReturns said

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Wow, just read the article....

So he stole the 360, jewelry, and cash, gaining entry through a rear window which was unlocked. Then he told his buddies and they made a second trip...

Looks like these people are fucked up all around...
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:30PM heypaul said

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Doesn't sound so much like a fall from grace to me as the full reality of the situation finally rearing itself. My bet would be that our hero had a history of bullying the shooter.

Also, the article only mentions that it was an XBox, so probably not a 360 and hence the $20 price tag.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:05PM quickshade said

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looks like Bennett should have let off some steam before he stole those items.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:54PM jojo biscuits said

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"looks like Bennett should have let off some steam before he stole those items."

Haha. I wasn't expecting a quality Commando quote in this thread.

My favorite thing about a stolen xbox? The price.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:09PM (Unverified) said

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DIE BENNETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(throws metal pipe into his chest)
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:34PM (Unverified) said

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All right, cool down there, turbo.

Imagine for a moment that you are a kid his age (It'll be easier in a year or two when you're actually there). You stopped this kid who was planning to kill a bunch of classmates and then himself. Probably twenty or more kids owe you their lives. Now, is it impossible to reason that the murderer-to-be shouldn't be relieved of some of his belongings as well? Especially since he obviously wasn't after profit.

I don't condone theft.
I'm not excusing THIS theft.

But I do have the ability to keep a level head and look underneath the exterior events (and by extension, Orland's clever and subtle jabs at... well, everyone).

tl;dr - Don't be an internet tough guy.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:38PM Neon Jebus said

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Shiro, I know what you are getting at but...

If I take your side of this story, tell me the logic of stealing the product only to sell it for next to nothing to one of the very kids you probably saved?

I would think the hero/local celebrity status would get you at least another $30 over your asking price.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:02PM 007craft said

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his name was matrix, not turbo.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 4:22PM (Unverified) said

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@Shiro

Um, actually, since you totally missed the Commando reference, I'm not sure you should be teasing Silly about his age...you know, glass houses and all that.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:13PM Neon Jebus said

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I blame the President. Jack Thompson needs to step in. Clearly being in close proximity to the President drives young people (and older people) to a life of crime.

So I wonder what drove the kid to want to shoot up the school in the first place? Was it video games or being bullied by the type of person that would later break into your home?
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:54PM dr steve brule said

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hey it happened to rumsfeld and rove

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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:15PM jsgrill said

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"Bennett's attorney said the media attention may have driven his client to the criminal act."How does a child, a young adult, deal with that situation, where all these cameras are put in his face and he's required to respond and he meets the president?"

Oh, I don't know. Maybe not becoming one of society's degenerates would be a start.

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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:15PM EngineF said

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I always kinda sympathize with the school shooting kids, I mean obviously he was treated like shit and it has to be insult to injury that one of the very people who was terrorizing him is now hailed as a Hero by the press.

I think people always forget that there's a very specific reason these kids want to kill other members of their student body; if these kids were just decent human beings to each other a lot of these incidents could be avoided.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:24PM SheppyReturns said

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It should be noted that not EVERY school shooter is Michael Carneal. Sometimes they are just batshit insane and refuse treatment like Virginia Tech and Northern Illinois University's shooters.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:18PM tso said

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That kid is a royal prick.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:19PM mietha said

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Wait, so he turns the guy in and them robs him? What an ass... Yeah, because positive attention turns everyone into criminals... And I say he's a liar as well. Who the fuck would sell a 360, even a stolen one, for $20? I call horseshit. Grand larceny is based on the value of the properity, not what you sell it for. Maybe he's not smart enough to know that.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:51PM (Unverified) said

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Sigh I wish Joystiq hadn't been so misleading. The news article makes no mention of the number "360," so the price tag would lead one to believe it was an original Xbox. So cool down for a second.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:23PM (Unverified) said

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The real crime here is that someone was able to get a 360 for 5% of its price, and that someone wasn't me.

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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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Was the robbery before or after he turned him in?? Did he find an "I'm going Columbine" letter when robbing him??.. and seriously why attempt to steal it when you could just offer $25?
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:52PM (Unverified) said

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Please read the post or the article or anything at all beyond the title before making such inane and embarrassing posts.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 2:53PM (Unverified) said

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Wait, wait, wait. This fuckwad stops a guy from shooting up his school, and he's a hero. THAT part makes sense. The part where he takes a person who has CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED himself to be unstable (possibly deadly) and PROVOKES HIM AGAIN is kind of fucking ridiculous, stupid, and puts him and his classmates at further risk.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:05PM 007craft said

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yeah. Hes just about undone any good he had done. The kid was clearly emotionaly messed up to begin with because of all the bullying that was done to him at school, probably from the same retard he was the hero that turned him in, and then stole his xbox. Lets stop playing minority report here. The kid with all the weapons is still innocent. hasent done a thing, while this "hero" has bullied kids, commited breaking and entering and theft.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:45PM Lord Minogue said

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A setup, mayhap?
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 4:13PM (Unverified) said

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The kid who "didn't do anything" was at least charged with criminal attempt and possession of a criminal instrument, and apparently also asked another student to help him. This isn't quite the same as having done nothing. Also, if I'm understanding things right the kid who reported him was the one who was approached for help. Now I'm no expert, but I'm thinking that if a kid is planning to shoot up his students as revenge for bullying, the kid he asks to help him is not going to be one of those bullies.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 3:58PM (Unverified) said

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This really seems like non-news to me. It's just not that hard to imagine that the same person who reported to police that someone was planning to kill him would then steal from the foiled shooter's home while he was away. In fact it seems like a pretty logical progression from fear to revenge, with a little bit of self-justifying "he deserves it" to grease the skids. I suppose having your ego inflated by the positive press and a handshake from the president might help, but it would hardly be necessary.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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According to the lawyer's logic, someone should keep close tabs on the following people:

Caitlin Day,
Nedra Keenan,
Sandra Paquin,
James Descoteau,
Felicia Lewis,
Wayne Miller,
Courtney Salls,
Nikki Salls,
Amber Redmond,
Britney Hayman,
Allen Thibodeau,
Tiffany Hayman,
Terra Hadcock,
Dakota Salls,
Tashia Salls,
Shayanne Becker,
Bianca Pelligrino,
Chris Hicks,
Thomas Gokey,
Casey Hadcock,
Timmy Hopper

They are obviously delinquents with hidden criminal agendas since they met with President Bush as children or young adults. There were even camera's involved. Perhaps they've not been caught pilfering last-generation video game systems yet, but surely it is only a matter of time.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2008 12:02AM (Unverified) said

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He... he didn't even ever say that. Learn what "rhetorical" means, dude.
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Posted: Mar 7th 2008 4:21PM (Unverified) said

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First of all, I never claimed that the lawyer said anything, so I'm not sure what you mean by "he didn't even ever say that."

As to rhetorical questions, do you really think I don't know what they are? (
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 5:45PM Swizzler said

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This reminds me of how Rachel's family (from Columbine) use the fact that she died to guilt trip schools into paying them to talk to the school...about how she died. I heard they're making a blockbuster movie about her death, it really sad, I hope she's throwing stones at them.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2008 10:52PM creid8 said

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Here's the way I'm reading this: Bennett bullies Cossey enough to make him want to bring a gun to school, then Bennett turns in Cossey, then Bennet robs Cossey. He deserves a kick in the nuts from the president, not a pat on the back.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2008 6:20PM (Unverified) said

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You know the definition of hero is really being watered down.

He simply did the intelligent thing in the situation. He told the people who needed to know his suspicions. They acted accordingly. At least that how it appears on the surface. I don't know everything thats happened since so i won't make any judgments.

Of course that didn't stop him from getting revenge on someone who actually never did anything to him to our knowledge. Blaming media coverage for his actions is an idiotic move on both his parents and his lawyers part.

its obvious he and the people he hangs around with aren't the little angels everyone thinks they are. Apparently they are capable of disregarding the rights of others as well.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2008 9:31PM guskof said

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The pic you have up: "Fall from Grace" is a student film turned indy documentary about Fred Phelps and his anti-homosexual protests in Topeka, KS. The pic and movie has nothing to do with the story you refer to.

I know you picked it for convenience or whatever, but it should probably be changed to something more relevant. I don’t think Ryan Jones (the film maker) would want his final project for his film class to relate to this story in anyway, even on a blog about games.

Here's Fred Phelps' wiki page if you want to know who he is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_phelps
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