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Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:08PM (Unverified) said
I think the pricing is the big issue. If I can buy the actual disc for 20 dollars, and the digital download costs like 17, I'd take the disc. However, if the disc is 20, and the DD is 10, I'd gladly take the DD.
Same with games - 60 dollar game, I'd take the DD for probably 35-40. For the reason that I can usually get 25-30 for a game on ebay/gamestop, it would be about even.
Same with games - 60 dollar game, I'd take the DD for probably 35-40. For the reason that I can usually get 25-30 for a game on ebay/gamestop, it would be about even.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 3:34PM (Unverified) said
Bah, give me physical media without stupid restrictions + portability any day.
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Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:20PM (Unverified) said
DD won't take off for a while. Not everyone has a computer and those who have a computer don't all have fast internet. Also ff microsoft truly believed that DD was coming so soon then they wouldn't have wasted money trying to get HD DVD as the next successful format.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 12:36AM (Unverified) said
"microsoft truly believed that DD was coming so soon then they wouldn't have wasted money trying to get HD DVD as the next successful format"
What are you talking about? MS didn't push the HD-DVD format like Sony did with Blu-Ray but Toshiba did and they lost MS just supported the format by making a HD-DVD add-on for the 360 and yeah the lost some money but it didn't affect the Xbox360 at all because it wasn't built in
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What are you talking about? MS didn't push the HD-DVD format like Sony did with Blu-Ray but Toshiba did and they lost MS just supported the format by making a HD-DVD add-on for the 360 and yeah the lost some money but it didn't affect the Xbox360 at all because it wasn't built in
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 1:53AM (Unverified) said
i agree that it wont take off for awhile, but everyone not having a computer is probably not a valid reason. More people would spend money on a computer first before a gaming console (or a movie player) and internet (in the case of a game console), and a tv (in both cases). Mainly because people who don't have both would choose the computer for it's educational and school-related purposes.
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Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:25PM (Unverified) said
i won't ever do a digital downloaded movie cause i like having physical copies of my discs and personally thing it will be 30%-40% of the market likes DD but i still think the lion share will be Discs or what ever the physical copy is at the time. unless they make it so the movie downloads in like a few seconds to a few mins yes i am serious if i want to watch a movie i am not waiting 30mins to 2 hours i'll just go rent the dvd etc.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:27PM Seminole said
It really depends. Today's infrastructure, at least in the U.S., cannot support digital download speeds that would satisfy the American consumers. We want things now, and going out and buying a physical disc satisfies that. Having to wait forever while a movie downloads, then figuring out which ones we want to delete when we run out of room wont cut it. Neither will not having a physical thing to hold, IMO. If the device holding all the movies takes a dump, and you lose all your data, you're going to be pissed. Also, the cost to overhaul the U.S. internet infrastructure to support DD would be tremendous.
Now that being said, music has definitely gone from being a physical medium, to a very DD focused medium. But I really think that has more to do with how fast you can download a small file like a .mp3. People like that they can get their music in a minute or two. To download a 50GB HD 7.1 movie would take ages. That's why I believe the system works with music.
Only time will tell though. But, Microsoft's claim of DD being the future in 12-18 months is very wrong. My bet is at least 4 -5 years until you maybe see the beginnings of things shifting to DD. It will happen eventually, but not anytime soon.
Now that being said, music has definitely gone from being a physical medium, to a very DD focused medium. But I really think that has more to do with how fast you can download a small file like a .mp3. People like that they can get their music in a minute or two. To download a 50GB HD 7.1 movie would take ages. That's why I believe the system works with music.
Only time will tell though. But, Microsoft's claim of DD being the future in 12-18 months is very wrong. My bet is at least 4 -5 years until you maybe see the beginnings of things shifting to DD. It will happen eventually, but not anytime soon.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:41PM (Unverified) said
Blu ray has lots of extras, in uncompressed HD 1080p.
If microsoft want to offer the same in a download.. good luck finding a hard drive big enough!
If microsoft want to offer the same in a download.. good luck finding a hard drive big enough!
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:54PM (Unverified) said
"Blu ray has lots of extras, in uncompressed HD 1080p."
...what?
Blu-ray discs use mpeg2, mpeg4 or VC1 video encoding. Those are all lossy COMPRESSION methods. Uncompressed 1080p video takes, I believe, a few GIGS per minute. Until we develop optical media with multiple terabyte capacity, we're never seeing uncompressed video on a disc.
Also, these days most extras on BRDs are the 480i/p features from the DVDs.
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...what?
Blu-ray discs use mpeg2, mpeg4 or VC1 video encoding. Those are all lossy COMPRESSION methods. Uncompressed 1080p video takes, I believe, a few GIGS per minute. Until we develop optical media with multiple terabyte capacity, we're never seeing uncompressed video on a disc.
Also, these days most extras on BRDs are the 480i/p features from the DVDs.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:36PM (Unverified) said
Who's like me and likes to rent DD (cox movies on demand), but loves to collect my favorites on disk?
i really think they can co-exist. the thing MS has to worry about is, most likely Sony will cash in on DD as well (netflix possibility), then then will have DD and Bluray.
i really think they can co-exist. the thing MS has to worry about is, most likely Sony will cash in on DD as well (netflix possibility), then then will have DD and Bluray.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 1:21AM (Unverified) said
DD is not a format so it is possible that Sony uses it in PSN but i'll be like copying 360's Video marketplace so i guess not but just a guess. Sony should worry about Blu-Ray anyway DD can wait
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Posted: Mar 16th 2008 6:38PM Jason B said
Cost, broadband speeds, the amount of users who still use dial-up or slower networks, bandwidth for the company who hosts the files, etc are going to keep digital downloads at bay for probably another decade.
I mean average DSL speeds will take 13 hours to over a day to download one DVD-9. I mean we are going to have to get up to OC-1 speeds to get something even reasonable and that will still take 30 minutes.
I mean average DSL speeds will take 13 hours to over a day to download one DVD-9. I mean we are going to have to get up to OC-1 speeds to get something even reasonable and that will still take 30 minutes.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 7:21PM SantanaClaus89 said
"Blu-Ray Irrelevant"... HA! Here's what happened:
Microsoft wanted Blu-Ray drives in the 360 after thier "awesome" HD-DVD suffered an EPIC FAIL. Sony said "no way, Jose" and now MS is spinning thier failure into this.
Isn't it funny how we're hearing so much defensive explanations from Microsoft these days... First thier not selling as many consoles as Sony because there's a shortage, now Blu-Ray discs will be irrelevant within months... hmmm.... sounds like MS is in damage control mode.
Here's an idea... try building consoles that don't break then worry about all this other nonsense.
Microsoft wanted Blu-Ray drives in the 360 after thier "awesome" HD-DVD suffered an EPIC FAIL. Sony said "no way, Jose" and now MS is spinning thier failure into this.
Isn't it funny how we're hearing so much defensive explanations from Microsoft these days... First thier not selling as many consoles as Sony because there's a shortage, now Blu-Ray discs will be irrelevant within months... hmmm.... sounds like MS is in damage control mode.
Here's an idea... try building consoles that don't break then worry about all this other nonsense.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 3:31AM (Unverified) said
i don't think sony flat out said no. that would've been bad for them. imagine sony vaio's not getting the discounted bulk price of windows vista...
they probably just set a high price that wouldn't have helped the x360. Not that any price would help, since they're around the same price with the blu-ray built into the ps3, and no hd player built into the x360.
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they probably just set a high price that wouldn't have helped the x360. Not that any price would help, since they're around the same price with the blu-ray built into the ps3, and no hd player built into the x360.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 7:20PM Goaliegeek said
the US internet speed system is just too slow. I now have Comcast and used to have Qwest (IT SUCKED) which was only 1.5mbps. I'm getting 6-7Mbps on my PS3 now. (Firmware updates now only take less than 2 minutes to download when they used to take 15 minutes) Until the US gets with the program with higher and cheaper internet speeds to match with Europe and other countries, I don't see DD taking off because the games/media will take too long to download. Plus if games are going to be 10-50GB, man, we better have TB HDDs on our new/current systems.And what if they accidentally get deleted and the new License Agreements say 1 download per console and thats it? There goes $60-70. Idk, I'll stick with discs for now. Plus having the box is just more cool
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 8:16PM Seminole said
"Until the US gets with the program with higher and cheaper internet speeds to match with Europe and other countries"
Its not that the U.S. "isn't with the program" that we are behind, its because we had it first.
Its like that neighbor on your block who has to go out and buy the newest coolest car. Well, he gets stuck with all the first year issues, high cost, etc. A few years down the road they do a mid-life update and then a lot more people buy the car, and now your neighbor is stuck with a older, out of style, and less reliable car. Now he wants the better version, but he can't afford to upgrade.
Same principle. We rushed forth and set up internet in the U.S. while everyone else kinda sat back and watched. Once we did a good job of perfecting it, they took the newest and best technology and implemented it. We got stuck with the older and slower network that would be to extremely costly to replace. There is a price of being on the leading edge of technology, we are just paying it. Same thing with cell-phones. Europe and Asia laugh at our networks.
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Its not that the U.S. "isn't with the program" that we are behind, its because we had it first.
Its like that neighbor on your block who has to go out and buy the newest coolest car. Well, he gets stuck with all the first year issues, high cost, etc. A few years down the road they do a mid-life update and then a lot more people buy the car, and now your neighbor is stuck with a older, out of style, and less reliable car. Now he wants the better version, but he can't afford to upgrade.
Same principle. We rushed forth and set up internet in the U.S. while everyone else kinda sat back and watched. Once we did a good job of perfecting it, they took the newest and best technology and implemented it. We got stuck with the older and slower network that would be to extremely costly to replace. There is a price of being on the leading edge of technology, we are just paying it. Same thing with cell-phones. Europe and Asia laugh at our networks.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 7:33PM ummfada said
I have a DVR box...
Pay Per Veiw on Demand... (I never use)
Limewire... (on MAH Macbook)
CASE CLOSED.
Pay Per Veiw on Demand... (I never use)
Limewire... (on MAH Macbook)
CASE CLOSED.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 7:58PM xThePunisherx said
The first good poll in awhile :). To me, it'll never take off. While I love Steam and buy a couple games off there, it's nothing compared to admiring a collection. There are also technical problems with games you don't actually have (ie your hard drive bombs). To me, i'd never give up discs- looking at the stacks makes me proud (and kinda sad at how much i spent).
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 7:45PM BlackIceJoe said
I don't see it happening any day now.
If any thing I could see it come out first out in Japan. Just because there cell phones are years ahead then the ones in the US. I think it was at least ten years ago Japan was were the US is today. So if it takes that long just for cell phones to work it is going to take even longer for downloads.
Then you got Europe that has better a better TV service and that is why the US is not getting Play TV like Europe.
The us has a better broadband service then Europe so online is faster. I think I am right on this sorry if I am not. Back to what I was saying and if the US is faster it still is not as fast as Korea and they still are not really doing Downloads.
So that just tells you the world is not ready for DD.
I wish it was it just is not. So not for at least another ten years and even then it might still be a small number of people doing it.
If any thing I could see it come out first out in Japan. Just because there cell phones are years ahead then the ones in the US. I think it was at least ten years ago Japan was were the US is today. So if it takes that long just for cell phones to work it is going to take even longer for downloads.
Then you got Europe that has better a better TV service and that is why the US is not getting Play TV like Europe.
The us has a better broadband service then Europe so online is faster. I think I am right on this sorry if I am not. Back to what I was saying and if the US is faster it still is not as fast as Korea and they still are not really doing Downloads.
So that just tells you the world is not ready for DD.
I wish it was it just is not. So not for at least another ten years and even then it might still be a small number of people doing it.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 7:59PM BlackIceJoe said
On a side note I really think Microsoft went with HD-DVD because they knew digital-downloads were not ready yet and were wishing the war would have lasted a lot longer so they could have found a way for digital-downloads to work. Just it did not work out for them that way.
Also I have been paying Comcast for years now and it got out of hand how high the price is and so I had to go back to basic with another company and online was to slow. You can't do any thing. With how slow it is and so I had to bite the dollar sign and repay Comcast again so I could use there broadband again because I could not get any thing down. Even though I like having money I need online for work and when it is slow you can't do any thing.
Plus price is another issue it is bad now and if
digital-downloads were to come out of the wood works now I don't even want to think how much I would have to pay.
So again I think digital-downloads for now is a dream and a nice one but only a dream and will not happen any day soon.
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Also I have been paying Comcast for years now and it got out of hand how high the price is and so I had to go back to basic with another company and online was to slow. You can't do any thing. With how slow it is and so I had to bite the dollar sign and repay Comcast again so I could use there broadband again because I could not get any thing down. Even though I like having money I need online for work and when it is slow you can't do any thing.
Plus price is another issue it is bad now and if
digital-downloads were to come out of the wood works now I don't even want to think how much I would have to pay.
So again I think digital-downloads for now is a dream and a nice one but only a dream and will not happen any day soon.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 8:07PM Roto13 said
They want me to download 50 gig games? Really?
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 8:31PM (Unverified) said
As it is at the moment its quicker for me to get in my car, drive down to the mall, buy game, drive home and load said game than downloading 25+ gigs worth of game. And untill that changes I wont even consider otherwise.
HD movies on download are also inferior quality than compared to disks. Also for it to work you would need a common form of internet accross the world and that sure as wont be happening anytime soon. So whats going to happen, Japan will have downloads while Australia will have disks? pffff. M$ is just floggin this horse to sound positive to investors without admitting they got it wrong. What I do see is M$ will push this just to save face next gen offering both D/L and Disk to everyone.
On a personal note im in the "rather have disk" camp. I wouldnt care if there was a $20 difference I would still choose disk any day of the week
HD movies on download are also inferior quality than compared to disks. Also for it to work you would need a common form of internet accross the world and that sure as wont be happening anytime soon. So whats going to happen, Japan will have downloads while Australia will have disks? pffff. M$ is just floggin this horse to sound positive to investors without admitting they got it wrong. What I do see is M$ will push this just to save face next gen offering both D/L and Disk to everyone.
On a personal note im in the "rather have disk" camp. I wouldnt care if there was a $20 difference I would still choose disk any day of the week
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 8:54PM (Unverified) said
/agree
I mean everybody knows its going to happen eventually (duh!) I mean I want it to happen but when I downloaded Tarzan in HD in the XBL marketplace, it took forever and I think it wasn't in true widescreen. Like it was zoomed in, similar to how on demand services work. For those interested here’s a great article about this subject.
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/apple-tv-20-vs-blu-ray-dvd-hd-cable-the-comparison/
Although I think TV shows would be better suited more or less. I really hope when Sony launches its video serves, they'll put more niche stuff like anime (Preferably in HD).
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I mean everybody knows its going to happen eventually (duh!) I mean I want it to happen but when I downloaded Tarzan in HD in the XBL marketplace, it took forever and I think it wasn't in true widescreen. Like it was zoomed in, similar to how on demand services work. For those interested here’s a great article about this subject.
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/apple-tv-20-vs-blu-ray-dvd-hd-cable-the-comparison/
Although I think TV shows would be better suited more or less. I really hope when Sony launches its video serves, they'll put more niche stuff like anime (Preferably in HD).
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 8:57PM DrunkRaba said
I personally will never get digital versions of movies or tv shows. Price is nice, but hard drives have issues, and your data is gone, especially when you factor anything Microsoft into that equation, and its a recipe for lost money and me being pissed off. Discs are just too reliable.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 9:05PM (Unverified) said
What kind of digital downloading are we talking about? The kind from an online store or the kind that comes with DVDs and soon to be Bluray?
Very confusing article and poll cause one of them already exsists.
The other two I'd say about 3-6 months and that options not on there.
Very confusing article and poll cause one of them already exsists.
The other two I'd say about 3-6 months and that options not on there.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 9:19PM (Unverified) said
I think it will take at least 3 years to really take off. DD progresses even slower than blu-ray to become more accepted... So this year DD taking over? No. Next year (12-18months)? Most likely not. 2010, maybe not. Most like around late 2010 or early 2011 is when we'll see DD really progressing.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 9:33PM Galley said
Digital downloads have no resale value; discs do.
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 9:50PM Erico316 said
wont happen anytime soon every1 like having ownship on real disc over dd.DD is only good for rentals
Posted: Mar 16th 2008 9:56PM brettjr25 said
People have too much of a connection to physical copies of things. They have dvd on display on there shelves and such. Doing things like that has become apart of humanity.
Even if the means were available it won't ever replace it, just like how mp3 players are the norm but CDs still exist and is the main distribution for the companies.
Besides if we're talking HiDef movie downloads then people are going to have to stock up on several 120gb harddrives especially people with BIG collections. So in the end Purchasing a blu ray player and Blu rays will be more financially practical as well.
Even if the means were available it won't ever replace it, just like how mp3 players are the norm but CDs still exist and is the main distribution for the companies.
Besides if we're talking HiDef movie downloads then people are going to have to stock up on several 120gb harddrives especially people with BIG collections. So in the end Purchasing a blu ray player and Blu rays will be more financially practical as well.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 3:42AM (Unverified) said
"Even if the means were available it won't ever replace it, just like how mp3 players are the norm but CDs still exist and is the main distribution for the companies."
mp3s didn't really "replace" CDs. Most of the mp3 downloading is free, be it legal or not. Most of the people I know who buy their music buy the CDs, they don't download it. (but yes, there are some that download bought music, but I would say CD is still the main source of purchased music)
In the same way, if DD was made possible, so would free DD, legal or illegal, with discs holding the big portion of bought content.
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mp3s didn't really "replace" CDs. Most of the mp3 downloading is free, be it legal or not. Most of the people I know who buy their music buy the CDs, they don't download it. (but yes, there are some that download bought music, but I would say CD is still the main source of purchased music)
In the same way, if DD was made possible, so would free DD, legal or illegal, with discs holding the big portion of bought content.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 12:37AM enbadesign said
The US does have an extremely fast communications backbone that is not available to anyone outside of the goverment and certain research intitutions that could easily alleviate the bandwidth problem. The government won't give that up though.
Because there is no competition in communications there really isn't the drive to develop a higher speed consumer infrastructure. Sorry but the telco companies of today are not in competition, they are in collusion. In most of the country you have your choice of two service providers, a DSL or cable service. If you are lucky you might have U-Verse or Verizon fiber but the fast pipe is way to expensive to be worth it for most people.
Until you get 50mb per second for $30 a month without bandwidth restrictions digital downloads don't stand a chance. A movie is a far cry from a 5mb .mp3. Besides the majority of legal .mp3s are either purchased from iTunes or ripped directly from cds that people own. Mp3 would have been a total failure if you weren't able to search for a song and get 15 different sites where you could download the file for free. Piracy enabled mp3 but the movie studios will never allow piracy to enable digital movie downloads.
Because there is no competition in communications there really isn't the drive to develop a higher speed consumer infrastructure. Sorry but the telco companies of today are not in competition, they are in collusion. In most of the country you have your choice of two service providers, a DSL or cable service. If you are lucky you might have U-Verse or Verizon fiber but the fast pipe is way to expensive to be worth it for most people.
Until you get 50mb per second for $30 a month without bandwidth restrictions digital downloads don't stand a chance. A movie is a far cry from a 5mb .mp3. Besides the majority of legal .mp3s are either purchased from iTunes or ripped directly from cds that people own. Mp3 would have been a total failure if you weren't able to search for a song and get 15 different sites where you could download the file for free. Piracy enabled mp3 but the movie studios will never allow piracy to enable digital movie downloads.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 1:17AM RKN said
Its very ironic that they are touting digital distribution/downloads when they only offer proprietary 20 and 120gb hard drive options, each costing more than they should.
For instance, their 120gb HDD is $180, where for that price, you can get a larger 2.5" HDD for the PS3 and where the HDD can be swapped out easily.
Come on Microsoft, if your going to go the DD route, at least make more HDD options, or make it like the PS3s, swap in juts about any 2.5" laptop hard drive, I love you Sony for doing this, thank you!!!!
No proprietary garbage Microsoft! (BTW, I do like Microsoft, lifelong Windows user, despise Apple and love Sony for their Playstations and Vaios)
For instance, their 120gb HDD is $180, where for that price, you can get a larger 2.5" HDD for the PS3 and where the HDD can be swapped out easily.
Come on Microsoft, if your going to go the DD route, at least make more HDD options, or make it like the PS3s, swap in juts about any 2.5" laptop hard drive, I love you Sony for doing this, thank you!!!!
No proprietary garbage Microsoft! (BTW, I do like Microsoft, lifelong Windows user, despise Apple and love Sony for their Playstations and Vaios)
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 2:28AM kentuckyfried said
Digital Downloads will be a part of the future media landscape, but I think that physical media will always have its place. The fact is, people still love to stock libraries of movies and trade them with their friends (whether the videos are rentals or for their own personal collection).
Digital Downloads won't become hot until (a) the bandwidth issue is solved - it's still too slow for most people and (b) there aren't too many DRM restrictions. That's what makes "illegal" downloads so appealing...dl's are fast and can be burned without restriction. If they can find a way to make legal downloads just as effortless or even better, then there's something to talk about.
Digital Downloads won't become hot until (a) the bandwidth issue is solved - it's still too slow for most people and (b) there aren't too many DRM restrictions. That's what makes "illegal" downloads so appealing...dl's are fast and can be burned without restriction. If they can find a way to make legal downloads just as effortless or even better, then there's something to talk about.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 3:51AM (Unverified) said
Microsoft are just jealous that their format FAILED and was rejected by the consumers, just like vista is failing, (Where is that service pack?) ,just like their console is now failing to sell, being outsold by PLAYSTATION3 in every single market on earth.
Can you imagine leaving a xbox360 on to download a full 1080p movie - chances are it will RED RING ITSELF TO DEATH before you even have chance to watch!!!
The word is out!!!!- no one wants to buy a console that has been labled SYSTEMICALLY DEFECTIVE ... The worry every time you turn it on and the noise like an aircraft taking off, The worry that at any moment the console is going to RED RING, It ruins your gaming experience!
PLAYSTATION3 and BLU RAY are sublimely engineered amazingly high end technology.
Quality will always win over rushed shoddiness in the end. So whatever MS think about this or that...Well to me, its kind of irrelevant. I believe that the engineering disaster that is xbox360 is one of the greatest consumer scandals in history.
Can you imagine leaving a xbox360 on to download a full 1080p movie - chances are it will RED RING ITSELF TO DEATH before you even have chance to watch!!!
The word is out!!!!- no one wants to buy a console that has been labled SYSTEMICALLY DEFECTIVE ... The worry every time you turn it on and the noise like an aircraft taking off, The worry that at any moment the console is going to RED RING, It ruins your gaming experience!
PLAYSTATION3 and BLU RAY are sublimely engineered amazingly high end technology.
Quality will always win over rushed shoddiness in the end. So whatever MS think about this or that...Well to me, its kind of irrelevant. I believe that the engineering disaster that is xbox360 is one of the greatest consumer scandals in history.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 5:16AM (Unverified) said
Just some math.
Ethernet is going to reach 100MBit download speed. So we can get almost 1Mb/s.
To download 50Gb is 50000mb so min = 50000 / 60 = 833.33 ,
hours = 833.33 / 60 = 13.88
Let's say just 13 hours to download 50gb
Plus I don't think 100MBit are accessable worldwide.
Ethernet is going to reach 100MBit download speed. So we can get almost 1Mb/s.
To download 50Gb is 50000mb so min = 50000 / 60 = 833.33 ,
hours = 833.33 / 60 = 13.88
Let's say just 13 hours to download 50gb
Plus I don't think 100MBit are accessable worldwide.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 5:20AM Mofetti said
WWith gas prices the way that there going, if they can offer DL 720p at a few gigs for about 1/3 the cost it will win.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 7:54AM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
Theres double standards here.
People were quick to slag off the DD aspect of the PS3 when installing games and the amount of data and time it consumes, but yet, the idea of downloading movies etc is taken up faster then a shot?
Garbage, utter garbage.
I should think that DD includes both gaming and other forms of media and if Micro is so certain DD will be the future, then I can gladly point out from thier comment that within 12 months nobody will be buying games from the store, they'll be downloading them onto thier PS3s, another flaw the 360 has. If not, then the substantial amount of people buying games in store will be the same for music, TV shows and movies.
People were quick to slag off the DD aspect of the PS3 when installing games and the amount of data and time it consumes, but yet, the idea of downloading movies etc is taken up faster then a shot?
Garbage, utter garbage.
I should think that DD includes both gaming and other forms of media and if Micro is so certain DD will be the future, then I can gladly point out from thier comment that within 12 months nobody will be buying games from the store, they'll be downloading them onto thier PS3s, another flaw the 360 has. If not, then the substantial amount of people buying games in store will be the same for music, TV shows and movies.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 8:24AM (Unverified) said
things will just become an utter mess when u have 100's of games/films etc, downloaded across multiple different services, and u wanna watch a film/play a game and cant remember where u got it. not to mention if one of these services goes bust, goodbye games, goodbye films.....
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 8:24AM (Unverified) said
I believe that Digital Downloads will be the way to go in a few years, quite a few... around 10 years or so.
BD will just be an storage medium, and will not be used for distribution.
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Of course MS pushed HD-DVD, hence the war.
BD will just be an storage medium, and will not be used for distribution.
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Of course MS pushed HD-DVD, hence the war.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 9:34AM (Unverified) said
DD? is a rip off. DD is a compress version of th HD so is not true HD. The fun of HD format is not only the resolution is about the image and audio quality. So, what I mean is you are not paying for true HD. What about audio compress on DD. I spend $2000 on my Home Theater and I like to enjoy the best quality audio available, and you wouldn't find it on DD. I wouldn't pay for inferior quality media like DD. The point of HD is about enjoy d best quality of media content not the worst if you want d worst you don't even need a Full HD TV and an expensive sound system.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 10:15AM (Unverified) said
well you could burn the movie you buy onto a blu-ray disc or dvd, as for bandwith for the high speed internet challenged there could be retail stores that offer your there high speed internet as a incentive to buy there or high speed telephone booths , also the company who is offering you the DD could provide you with a pimped out set top box that connects to a satalite for uber instantly insane speeds. or not what do i know im just a consumer.
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 10:30AM (Unverified) said
3 thing need to happen for DD to take off
First more than 85% of people need to have a PC Connected to at LEAST one TV in their home
Second, Said persons would also have to want to risk losing said DD if PC fails(which Dics do fail from time to time but not as often as Hard Drives), which wouldnt be a problem if companies that offer DD would allow content to be redownloaded for free x number of times, but we all know thats not gonna happen.
Third, Internet Speeds in the US HAVE to catch up with other countries and we need 2GB/s or greater Download speeds for the price we currently pay for 600MB/s speeds..........
I truly believe that until that happens DD will lag behind........
and dont even get me STARTED on features.........
I for one love the features on BD & DVD.........Digital Downloads are just the movie(from the ones I have seen).......
and even to go further with Games, I still want a backup of the game........I mean sure I have Tekken 5 on my PS3 but if it was available on PS3 BD format I would have gotten it that way, I know thats where games are going in the future........but I want the option at least back them up on discs.........
First more than 85% of people need to have a PC Connected to at LEAST one TV in their home
Second, Said persons would also have to want to risk losing said DD if PC fails(which Dics do fail from time to time but not as often as Hard Drives), which wouldnt be a problem if companies that offer DD would allow content to be redownloaded for free x number of times, but we all know thats not gonna happen.
Third, Internet Speeds in the US HAVE to catch up with other countries and we need 2GB/s or greater Download speeds for the price we currently pay for 600MB/s speeds..........
I truly believe that until that happens DD will lag behind........
and dont even get me STARTED on features.........
I for one love the features on BD & DVD.........Digital Downloads are just the movie(from the ones I have seen).......
and even to go further with Games, I still want a backup of the game........I mean sure I have Tekken 5 on my PS3 but if it was available on PS3 BD format I would have gotten it that way, I know thats where games are going in the future........but I want the option at least back them up on discs.........
Posted: Mar 17th 2008 3:36PM (Unverified) said
I can't see digital downloads taking off for at least a few more years simply because downloading a full HD game is going to be what.. at least 5gb? (And how big are our console hard drives?) Not to mention the fact that with a physical disc, it's yours to keep forever, versus a digital download if you have to restore the hard disc, system goes bad and you get a new one, whatever the case may be, the physical disc is YOURS to bring with you wherever you want for as long as you want.
A download on the other hand, is only going to be supported for so long especially if the game isn't selling so well, why pay for the bandwidth costs to keep it online when there's so many other games that could be taking it place?
That's just me personally thoug.. I'd take a disc any day because I know that *I'll* be the one to decide when I don't want it anymore.
A download on the other hand, is only going to be supported for so long especially if the game isn't selling so well, why pay for the bandwidth costs to keep it online when there's so many other games that could be taking it place?
That's just me personally thoug.. I'd take a disc any day because I know that *I'll* be the one to decide when I don't want it anymore.
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