A little friendly trash-talk is to be expected between game developers and their various digital distribution platforms, but one anonymous WiiWare developer seems fiercely devoted to the potential of Nintendo's platform, calling Xbox Live Arcade's lineup "full of shit."
The comment comes from a discussion of Nintendo's aggressive strategy for bringing developers to the WiiWare platform. According to Develop Magazine, Nintendo is taking advantage of frustrations with Microsoft's service to entice developers over to WiiWare. According to the anonymous developer, the sheer glut of retro titles on XBLA makes it difficult for new properties to stand out (a grievance similarly aired by Jeff Minter following poor sales of his retro-styled title Space Giraffe).
Of course, any digital distribution platform is bound to eventually find itself congested with titles, a problem the brick-and-mortar retail chains have dealt with for years. Only after some time will we be able to see if WiiWare handles this title saturation any differently than XBLA.
Reader Comments (114)
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 5:48AM (Unverified) said
oh please. whats wrong with hundreds of games coming to XBLA?
its better than nintendo's "1 good game a month" "policy"
its better than nintendo's "1 good game a month" "policy"
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 12:20PM Crono141 said
umm, no it isn't. 1 game/month ensures that small studios put the majority of thier manpower on 1 title, instead if having every programmer making their own (shitty) game.
Its that quality control all the fanboys keep bitching that Nintendo doesn't have.
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Its that quality control all the fanboys keep bitching that Nintendo doesn't have.
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 5:38AM T1Billion said
fight the good fight wiiware
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 8:19AM (Unverified) said
Jeff Minter can't blame the amount of games on a service because his game wasn't good.
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 9:17AM mikeisgo said
So wait.. He's complaining there is too many options on XBLA basically? Wow some people will spin anything. Also even if Virtual Console is seperate from WiiWare, to lessen the confusion between retro and non-retro, I'd venture to say it make things confusing. Now you've got to go to two places to look up games. Past that what happens with games like XBLA games like Prince of Persia or the upcoming Bionic Commando, in this separation scheme? Are they really retro, because they've been updated?
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 9:43AM Lou3000 said
That's funny because so many Wii games are shit.
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 9:46AM Dale P said
This is like watching two fat kids fight over a chocolate bar.
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 10:42AM Supermanisdead said
@ Night Elve
It's basically the same thing, same with pigeons fighting over cookie crumbs... funny, but pathetic
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It's basically the same thing, same with pigeons fighting over cookie crumbs... funny, but pathetic
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 12:35PM (Unverified) said
Somehoe I don't see how these guys think they are going to score on WiiWare -- Nintendo has made it clear that they will allow pretty much anyone to put games on the service -- with no quality control, no feature requirements, nothing. WHich means a glut of games -- most of which will be shit. It is going to be a wild west marketplace. And you can bet Nintendo will do nothing to promote smaller titles -- if a game sells, it will end up on the feature page and to hell with everyone else.
I am not sure why anyone is yelling about XBLA having a "glut" of retro titles either. First - that is all Nintendo has shipped so far -- they are the king of retro crap with no enhancements -- plus how many retro games has XBLA shipped in the past several months?
Brain Challenge
Rocketman
Exelica (sort of retro)
N+
Commandos
Discs of Tron (Retro)
Poker Smash
Rez HD (sort of retro)
Chessmaster Live
Boogie Bunnies
Omega 5
Tron (retro)
The only truly crappy retro are 3rd party games fomr Disney. Hardly a flood of retro.
I am not sure why anyone is yelling about XBLA having a "glut" of retro titles either. First - that is all Nintendo has shipped so far -- they are the king of retro crap with no enhancements -- plus how many retro games has XBLA shipped in the past several months?
Brain Challenge
Rocketman
Exelica (sort of retro)
N+
Commandos
Discs of Tron (Retro)
Poker Smash
Rez HD (sort of retro)
Chessmaster Live
Boogie Bunnies
Omega 5
Tron (retro)
The only truly crappy retro are 3rd party games fomr Disney. Hardly a flood of retro.
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 1:46PM blacktail said
well i've been a huge Nintendo fan for years so don't all attack me at once, but even if that statement were true, at least it's only applicable to XBLA. The 360 has an awesome selection of (retail) games. The Wii, on the other hand, has much more than it's fair share of shovelware. I can't imagine that Wiiware will be any different at all. Time will tell Mr anonymous developer - if that is, indeed, your real name.
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 4:51PM (Unverified) said
how can we hate sony in this thread?
Posted: Mar 18th 2008 8:16PM (Unverified) said
I'm sorry, but why do we care if some random developer made a comment based on his opinion?
No seriously, why is this news?
If I state that the XBLA is full of shit, does anything happen? Do I get my own article? I've developed HL2 mods, so I'm obviously a developer! As opposed to this monkey who's just helping make a dupe of the existing Virtual Console service (I don't care what 'isms' are new this time around, you pay to download software. that means it's the same damn thing).
I think XBLA is full of shit! Quick, get me a fucking article, i'm news baby!
...what do you mean it's unsubstantiated rumor milling? What do you mean nobody cares about my opinion. I coded an ActionScript game three years ago, I'm a fucking developer, I want someone to write a useless article about my equally useless tirade so more people can think it matters.
Hey, WiiWare developers, quit spending as much time on forums, more time in your IDE.
Joystiq, we realize there's a lot of news to post... try to be more discerning.. What's next? Britney Spears updates? Jesus people, get lives.
You may have cost this 'developer' his job because for some unfathomable reason, you made this news...
No seriously, why is this news?
If I state that the XBLA is full of shit, does anything happen? Do I get my own article? I've developed HL2 mods, so I'm obviously a developer! As opposed to this monkey who's just helping make a dupe of the existing Virtual Console service (I don't care what 'isms' are new this time around, you pay to download software. that means it's the same damn thing).
I think XBLA is full of shit! Quick, get me a fucking article, i'm news baby!
...what do you mean it's unsubstantiated rumor milling? What do you mean nobody cares about my opinion. I coded an ActionScript game three years ago, I'm a fucking developer, I want someone to write a useless article about my equally useless tirade so more people can think it matters.
Hey, WiiWare developers, quit spending as much time on forums, more time in your IDE.
Joystiq, we realize there's a lot of news to post... try to be more discerning.. What's next? Britney Spears updates? Jesus people, get lives.
You may have cost this 'developer' his job because for some unfathomable reason, you made this news...
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