Nintendo still dead last in Greenpeace electronics rankings

I rest my cast. Get a mind of your own you redneck fascists.

You rest your "cast".

resting one's cast is a very common practice while recovering from a broken arm

I bet a redneck facist must of broke is arm for being an ass.

Nigeria: Cody ChesnuTT Defense Force if you're going to do the spelling/grammar police thing at least go all the way.

it's "they're no better" not "there no better"
and perhaps you should look up the definition of expunge.

seriously, correcting someones spelling errors, misuse of words and grammar on the net is a massive waste of time.

I'm torn.

Yes Greenepeace are annoying douchebags...but there's a special place in hell for the Jihadi's. Far more people are killed in the name of Allah than killed in the name of the almighty evergreen.

Cut from the same extremist tree for sure though - no pun intended.

@Mystic
I rest my cast? what are you taking about? So nobody can say nothing about greenpeace because you call them "rednecks" and "fascists"

Jihad has a very different meaning from what you understand it to be.

I'll summarize the funnies in this thread so far.

spddrcr commits grammatic double murder by using the phrase "there no better then." Everyone cuts him some slack for making a decent point.

Mystic calls spddrcr a "redneck facist" and immediately "rests his cast."

fischju tries to point out the accidental humor in Mystic's statement, but types "must of broke is arm" instead of "must have broke his arm," severely hurting his own street cred.

robert hands out citations while waving his grammar police badge, but ironically uses the nonexistant plural "someones" instead of the possessive "someone's." He also completely neglects proper spelling.

upz tries to be smart ass, uses "funnies" as a noun and likely makes a fool of himself by pointing out everyone else's mistakes while not proofreading his own post.

Don't mind mystic.
He has a problem with making comments on technology blogs without calling people idiots, acting like a prick, TYPING IN CAPS, misusing exclamation points!!!!, and smoking Steve Jobs' pole at every opportunity.

Reading spddrcr's comment made me smile on the inside --some people do get it.

This is revolting - Joystiq posters are apparently not only ignorant but Neoconservative to the bone.

It's extremely upsetting that by calling myself a gamer, I'm lobbed in with the rest of you. Ugh, I think I'm gonna puke.

Glad to see you've finally come out of the stupid closet, NHH.

NoHitHair,

LMAO.

Yup. That's us.

The evil neeeeeo-cons. Shame on us for calling an organization that uses terrorist tactics a terrorist organization.

And double shame on me for also calling suicide bombing jihadi's (and no 'Abuzar', my definition is just fine thankyou) terrorists.

I suppose if we're 'neo-con' to the bone', that makes you a typical Liberal Communist loving douchebag.

See?

I can make sweeping generalizations too.

GTFO.

ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

Jihad: In Islam, an individual's striving for spiritual self-perfection.

You guys are nuts

Greenpeace is pretty radical but they do not kill innocent people to make a political point. Their scare tactics dont really amount to terrorism.

I for one am not terrified of them, but I am terrified of people blowing up buildings, planes and trains.

Killing people is a pretty big step up.

Korova,

Loggers have been killed by chainsawing spikes that were put into trees by Greenpeace. When the chainsaw hits that metal spike, it ricochets back and injures or in some cases kills the operator.

Abuzar,

Don't give me any of that personal spirtual growth crap about Jihad. I'll believe that when radical Mulsims stop killing in the name of it.

If you read the actual pdf from the site, virtually all of the details for Nintendo are "No information" or "no reference". Basically the companies that brag the most are the ones which get the highest scores.

How is that a bug...it uses alot of power who cares if its on or not the power is getting used

Good point mystic

Facist? Was that the word of the day in your Freshman science class yesterday? There is NOTHING more facist than the idea that, brace yourselves, the WEATHER is going to kill us. Holy shit! You mean that the weather will be different from one day to the next and there's no way to predict it?! The only way to avoid this fate is to impose strict government regulations and empower a small group of radical nutjobs that operate on psuedo-science and half-baked theories that have never panned out?!

I mean, seriously Mystic, who's the facist?

Synner, do the oil companies pay you on a per comment basis, or are you salaried?

Mystic,

Take no offense in what I'm about to say, but have you completely lost your mind? There are a number of sane, logical people who loathe Greenpeace for the same reason the organization's founder left; Green peace is not about the environment or science, but extremist "environmentalist" politics.

I cannot count the number of times I've read a Greenpeace published article, watched a conference, or watched a protest that used incorrect or outright fraudulent data in order to scare people into agreeing with the organization's views. Sorry, science exists to educate people and bring them one step closer to understanding how our world (or universe, if your prefer) works. It's not meant to be used as a tool for terrorizing or misinforming people into agreement.

Case in point, there are a number of African nations that have banned genetically modified crops thanks largely to the intervention of Greenpeace. Unfortunately, these very nations are facing malnutrition or starvation on an epidemic level because their local environments are to harsh to sustain the most basic crops; the genetically modified crops, however, can flourish in such harsh climates. Thanks to Greenpeace, thousands or millions of people are going to slowly starve to death, not in the name of science (because the crops in question can't pollinate or crossbreed with local flora) or humanitarianism, but to fulfill a political agenda. Oh, and if you're against genetically modified food saving people, keep something carefully in mind; every fruit, every vegetable you eat has been altered in some way over the course of history by mankind. An ear of corn was, at one time, no larger than a strawberry.

I could go on all day providing examples as to why Greenpeace is a haven for misinformed, radical, anti-humanitarian, unscientific, socially inept retards but that would require multiple pages on this thread. As far as your "fascist" comments go, I have this to say: I'd rather be a redneck that questions the motives of any organization that incorrectly uses science to further political agendas than attempt to silence people because their view differs from what the followers of the organization you mindlessly subscribed to are spoon fed.

Synner, those "facts" you just listed are all untrue and never were true (completely. They we're lies spread around by conservatives in attempt to lower global warming scientist's credibility. The fact that you are still questioning global warming leads me to believe that you are either extremely ignorant, or believe everything that people like Rush Limbaugh say.

Synner

That hole in the ozone layer closed and disappeared after the world ban on CFCs use and production stopped their destructive effects on the ozone. That's why you dont hear about it anymore.

As for the other issues you mention, you are confusing warnings issued when scientist learn that an issue exists and may cause harm to us with the harmful effects themselves.

You dont trust science probably because you dont really understand it. There is a difference between scaring and warning. Science warns, it does not scare.

its not the console its the manufactoring plants any way i dont think nintendo gives a fuck about greenpeace there swimming in green

Ah, gotcha. In that case I'm not surprised but I also don't care.

Basically in GreenPeace's fucked up 'Green-o-meter', you get points for disclosing your environmental practices, or even plans for future environmental practices that you haven't implemented. Obviously you lose points if you have "bad" manufacturing practices, like using mercury and lead-based components, but you lose the same points if you don't publicly address these particular topics that Green Peace is looking for.

So basically GreenPeace is saying "Give us the level of transparency we desire regarding your manufacturing practices, or we will bully you with our stupid rating system". It doesn't matter that this information may be privileged, or proprietary to your company, or that you simply don't want to pander to these guys, as their stance is "I don't know the answer, therefore I will assume the worst possible outcome."

For years, Apple received extremely low ratings because Green Peace DIDN'T KNOW what Apple's mfr'ing practices were, even though there were obvious changes, like notebook computer packaging being 1/3 what it was several years ago, and iPod packaging being 1/10 the size. In practice, Apple is just a secretive company, and they don't give out details about their internal operations.

After simply taking it for years, Steve Jobs finally posted a blog on Apple's front page describing just how full of shit Green Peace's ratings were. As it turns out, Apple's practices were YEARS ahead of the competition in terms of phasing out toxic components, and building computers that are more recyclable and with shipping them with less packaging. Their operational practices are on target to stay years ahead of the industry as they adopt future technologies that are more toxin-free and eco-friendly. And afterwards, Green Peace went as far as commending Apple for their environmentally conscious practices (although, note, nothing had actually changed since when they were bashing Apple). So really, they're full of shit.

bobartig, that's true, but there is the fact that some people actually DO look at a company's environmental practices when deciding what to buy (maybe not so much for electronics, but I'm sure there are people who do). The fact that a company can't just list it's environmental status in the manufacturing department would seem a little strange... it's not like they're asking for complete lists of every step in the process. A company could simply write, we don't use mercury or we phased out lead in our products, and more people would buy the product. GreenPeace's rating system is flawed, but would be much better if instead of giving companies like Nintendo, that don't list all their practices, a low score, they just make a note and not include them in the overall ranking and just rank things they do have available. And how about they contact the f'ing manufacturer themselves and get the damn information instead of just saying it's not available.

Synner

That hole in the ozone layer closed and disappeared after the world ban on CFCs use and production stopped their destructive effects on the ozone. That's why you dont hear about it anymore.

As for the other issues you mention, you are confusing warnings issued when scientist learn that an issue exists and may cause harm to us with the harmful effects themselves.

You dont trust science probably because you dont really understand it. There is a difference between scaring and warning. Science warns, it does not scare.

mmm, their research is ok

"Each score is based solely on public information on the companies website. Companies found not to be following their published policies will be deducted penalty point in future versions of the guide."

They base their research on public information, if Nintendo doesn't make any of these information available, what they want to get rated for?

I know that it is said that Nintendo does have a "good" (I haven't really seen them being review so I really don't knowhow good it is) recycling plan and all, but why the hell would you not make this information available to the public? Seriously, they already went through this last year....

That's the thing, there. Nintendo loses points for being Nintendo, and keeping things secret

The way they make it look is like Nintendo's one of those villains on Captain Planet, or something. There are legitimate reasons for a low score (the power drain, their atrocious packaging), but they're not Hoggish Greedley

@Noshino

I can not find any information about your recycling program. Does that mean you don't recycle?

Earth!

@Noshino:

Their research is shit. It is a bunch of sensational nonsense, and their reports carry no credibility.

Fire! ...

That is animal cruelty, motherfucker.

SAVE THE SHOCK RATS!

Pokemon aren't animals... They're pocket MONSTERS!
It's right to lock them up and exploit them just for the affront to nature that they are.

Uh oh.