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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:10PM (Unverified) said

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Even if PS3 doesn't deliver on all its promises, I think this might be a case of being carried by the hype if this continues much longer.

Think of that what you will.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 11:39PM glitched said

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The author seriously understates Gran turismo... every GT game has outsold every halo game. GT holds 4 spots on the top 20 best selling - non bundled games of all time. GT is the 10th best selling franchise of all time. Besides GTA, GT is the only game able sell more than 10mill on a playstation console.

Gran turismo IS sony's exclusive killer app. The fact is millions of non-gamers buy playstations for GT - Nongamers who are car nuts that is.

http://www.answers.com/best%20selling%20video%20games
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 2:09AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah... but you forgot the install base.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 2:25AM (Unverified) said

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And please, oh please... every PS3 fanboy in this site... please, mark my words:

Mario Kart Wii, will outsell GT.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 2:27AM (Unverified) said

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*GT5 Prologue, and then GT5.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 9:54AM (Unverified) said

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uh, Donkey Kong is number 10. GT is number 11. Your wrong. hahaha

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 10:11AM (Unverified) said

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What is a PS3? is it a new car or something?
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Posted: Mar 27th 2008 12:48AM (Unverified) said

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GT sold a lot on a WORLDWIDE basis. How many of those copies come from Europe? 70%? We are talking US sales. GT isn't as big here as it's in Europe. And of course, the ~9 mil GT4 includes sales of the game in subsequent years (at lower price)
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Gears 2 all say hello to this article. It's mostly flamebait but the 360 and ps3 both have their share of great games coming out. Both consoles will do extremely well.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 2:42AM (Unverified) said

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How could you say Ninja Gaiden 2 is going to sell big. Ninja Gaiden was released on PS3 this year and sold very little. People are not into Ninja Gaiden, it's just not one of those games that sell big. Who knows if Banjo 3 will make it this year. So really your saying Gears 2 and Fable 2 will outsell. MGS4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, GT5, GT:Prologue, LBP, Motorstorm 2 combined. HAHA what a joke!
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 6:56AM (Unverified) said

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@LP47PS3

Who said anything about NG2 and Fable 3 outselling anything? You just trolled one of the most neutral comments on here, and in doing so exposed your PS3 fanboy stupidity.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 7:07AM Elorian said

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What flamebait? It's a great, well researched and well thought out article.
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Posted: Mar 22nd 2008 1:56PM (Unverified) said

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Ninja Gaiden 2 will not sell big. You know why? Because most people considered Black and the original Ninja Gaiden to be the hardest game ever made. Black and Ninja Gaiden never really sold that much. While Ninja Gaiden 2 will be a kick ass game, it sure as hell won't catch the attention of those who consider the game to be too damn hard. If anything a Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma would have a better time than that game.

Sony has a list of killer games coming so stop denying it and do some research before you come here talking a load of BS.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:16PM (Unverified) said

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Come on PS3, You Can Do It!
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 6:01AM Supino said

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PS3 can do it? sure, but this is the hardest competition Sony has ever experienced. The PS3 won't suddenly dominate like the PS2 - that won't happen.

If you want it all this gen, you'll need them both.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 9:28AM (Unverified) said

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the reason why the ps2 did so well was because it had no opposition. like Mike Tyson fighting a ten year old. The Dreamcast, (Sigh) was dead and the only other system was . . . the GameCube. Now that Sony has not one, but TWO other systems to contend with, Its taking a crap in its pants. Now Sony can't just put out anything old garbage and expect the world to eat it up. (excluding Japan, they will buy anything Sony sells)
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:19PM DinnyHoon said

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Your argument about the 'shortage' of 360s so far this year is completely void. If there wasn't enough to go around, places would be sold out of 360s right across the 2 western continents. And if MS couldn't supply 360s at they're Jan-Feb price, why would they cut them by such a huge margin in March?

As for catching the Wii, that won't happen. The Wii has, effectively, won the 7th generation. The true 'console war' is between the 2 Goliaths. The 360 has had its year. 2008 is the PS3's year. 2009 is where we will see what both consoles are made of. All the blockbuster games, the promised features, etc. will be out by this Christmas. THEN it'll be neck and neck.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:32PM PoisonedAl said

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Oh I dunno. The Wii is in more homes that's for sure, but the real money is in software royalties. In that area the 360 beats the other two hands down. That said, while the average PS3 owner has 0.75 games, they are buying Blu-ray discs for the thing, and Sony gets a cut of that.

Black and white hardware sales are always misleading.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 11:12PM (Unverified) said

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Even Gamestop in their quarterly report admitted to there being a shortage of 360's -- so, it's been independently verified now.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 12:34AM SharpShooter said

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@ Poisoned Al

I'm guessing you got that "fact" at 360fanboy.com? Last time Joystiq counted, it was 3.58, and considering game like GT5 Prolouge, I'm assuming it's probably at 4.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 6:50AM (Unverified) said

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Danny, the shortages were in North America. The price cut was in Europe (and for the most part it was to compensate for a shoddy exchange rate).
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 9:22AM (Unverified) said

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I can attest to the shortages up to 5 weeks ago. Prior to that I was activly looking for a 360 and the only model in the stores was the Arcade. Not pro, not elite. I found my Pro on a road trip to Minneapolis all by its lonesome. Now, the stores are fully stocked with all models.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:26PM TONX said

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Screw everything else. In the end, its all about the games.

Resistance 2
Home
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
GTAIV
Wipeout HD
Heavy Rain
InFamous
Echochrome
Metal Gear Solid 4

So many damn good games coming out in '08 for PS3. If you truly are a gamer, you will have to at least acknowledge that this is an amazing set of games for this year.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 12:24AM (Unverified) said

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2007 was better.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 12:57AM CountNoobula said

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I agree that all of those will be great games for the system. I think that in 2008 the PS3 will do better than the previous year. I also believe that with the 360's lineup of games such as Gears 2, Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, Alan Wake, and Banjo 3, to name a few, will slow the PS3's growth of new customers, those customers being current Wii and 360 owners. Also, with GTA IV being multi-platform it may not be a "system seller" for either company really, its a 50/50 split in my view.

But I don't think those MS games will stop Non Wii or 360 owners from buying a PS3. Those games you listed may very well be the games that current PS2 owners have been waiting for to get a PS3. In particular GT, and MGS fans. I don't think that Killzone 2, or Little Big Planet will be "system sellers", but they will undoubtedly sell many copies to current owners. I also don't believe that HOME will sell PS3's. If people want a "virtual community" they will use 2nd life, or Facetrap, but HOME will definitely be a PS3 perk that will be used extensively.

Lets face it people, if you want to play Sony games then you will buy a Sony system. If you want to play Microsoft games then you will buy a 360. And if you want to be cool, trendy, and get laid by your gf more often you will buy a Wii.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 3:31AM (Unverified) said

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Home is not a game numb-nuts. Personally, I wouldn't count PSN games nor unproven franchises such as Heavy Rain and Infamous. How much do you know about either? Concept wise they are cool- but that doesn't mean an original and relatively unknown "concept" will be a good game.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 9:08AM (Unverified) said

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OMG I'M A FAN BOI I NEED TO YELL ABOUT A SYSTEM I DON'T EVEN HAVE STOCK IN! I NEED THIS COMPANY TO TAKE MY MONEY FASTER!!! Dude who cares, they are both going to make money, even if either one of them stopped making hardware, they would still be a successful company. BOTH of these companies don't care about you, so why are you giving the BJ's? (I'm just waiting for Sega to make the superior system again, then I'm selling my 360 and PS3)
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 9:16AM (Unverified) said

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When you can't admit that "You'r" system has flaws, then your a fanboy, and you need help. . .
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 8:51AM (Unverified) said

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Sony has no killer app? What about God of War? If a "God of War 3" had been released as a launch game, I bet the PS3 would be doing better. Hypothetical, but still it is a killer app.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:43PM (Unverified) said

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while i agree that the god of war games are amazing, they dont really sell that well. At least not enough to be called a killer app.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:49PM Eugimon said

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They did one better, put him in a skirt and gave him a red wig, still didn't sell.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:59PM (Unverified) said

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@eugene

Heavenly Sword has by far the best lip synching and voice acting EVER in a video game. Its a great game (albeit short) and its a shame it did not sell better. It really is a quality produced game.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 10:49PM Eugimon said

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I didn't say HS was a bad game, just that it was a god of war clone. And I agree, i thought it was a very fun game with some great cinematic qualities. It's a shame it didn't do better, imo.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 11:32PM (Unverified) said

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@John: I actually think that is part of the problem for PS3. I remember seeing a tech demo describing how realistic the sweat on basketball players was on PS3. The thing is, I don't know ANYONE who buys games for realistic sweat or good lip synching. Those things don't make good bullet points on a game packaging. Nor do they make a game fun.

Sony's got some impressive tech for sure, but they don't know how to use it properly.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 9:34AM (Unverified) said

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"Ya DUDE did you hear about this game called heavenly sword? IT SOUNDS . . AWESOME! I heard it is going to have the best lip syncing ever! I am soooo pumped." Plus god of war is by no means, a "Killer APP." It might be a good selling game but not something that would turn the tides of gaming. OMG PS3 RULZ!!! haha
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:28PM RileyFreeman said

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this was definitely a good read and i am big sony fan but they you are right mg4 is no halo. sony should have never let grand theft auto off the exclusives that game being an exclusive to sony would have netted them some huge sales boost. but one thing I think everyone fails to mention when comparing ps2 game sales the majority of people had chips in their ps2 and copied games so the sales numbers dont accurately show what some of those series games were really worth. now that the ps3 is chip proof its still too early to get an accurate number from any of the sales because its still an expensive machine for some. if sony really wants to come back in the u.s and surpass the 360 especially in the near future i think some of the cash gained from the format war they need to buy some exclusives back like they should have tride to get gta4 as an exclusive. i would try and see what call of duty 5 is doing and buy that as an exclusive. the agency has potential although i dont like early art of the game it has potential to be a very huge game.

finally where sony will really have to separate itself from the xbox to dominate is when these developers stop half assing their ps3 versions of the games. the bluray takes 50 gbs theres no way a 360 game should be anywhere near to what the ps3 version of a game looks or has. the ps3 is a more powerful excuse so theres no excuses anymore if u cant put out a proper product that really uses the ps3 power PUSH IT BACK (heres looking at u haze and army of 2) there is no reason to rush out a crappy product (see xbox 360 red ring of death and billion dollar losses in warranty repairs for sloppy products) make sure you put out quality and customers will be happy. im giving these developers until september after then i dont want to see anything that looks like rainbow six vegas 1 or army of 2 or from what i have seen in the videos of haze and madden 09 if u pull the same crap again your getting boycotted this is coming from someone that has faithfully looked past alllll bugs and defficiencies for 12 year. I drop nba live for the first time in 14 years for nba 2k8 and i have no problem leaving football behind.

lets go people 50 gbs to work with cell chip NO EXCUSES
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:34PM (Unverified) said

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What?
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:53PM (Unverified) said

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Step back. Slow down. And look what I do here, at the end of this sentence. A period. Use it. The shift key is also your friend.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 12:12AM (Unverified) said

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This post really hurts my eyes.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 8:24AM Korova Pamplona said

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Its a good ramble. Some interesting ideas in there. But I agree with above. Periods are like really cool! Wow, punctuation is HOT!
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 11:32AM MarkezJM said

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"the majority of people had chips in their ps2 and copied games"

No they didn't, you're an idiot. I agree with the others, my eyes hurt, and punctuation is cool. CAST CLOSED
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:34PM (Unverified) said

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Socom.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 9:15AM (Unverified) said

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SOCOM IS DUMB, play a real game like GRAW or something better. HAHAHAHAHA
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:36PM Some Guy said

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Honestly, i think this might have a little to do with the fact that there hasn't been too terribly much by means of big things to buy for the past few months.
The promise of great games along with the cell, blu-ray,
memories of the ps2 and 1, seems to be putting sony in a great position.
Personally im very excited about the next gen sony handheld (psp2 mainly) in the hope that they will more actively peruse big games.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:36PM Lone Starr said

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This article completely misses the point IMO. The competition is not 360 vs. PS3 vs. Wii. It's 360 vs. PS3 vs. Wii vs. PS2. Once you include this, it looks a lot better for Sony.

Also consider that PS3 is designed to have a ten year lifetime (Tretton and others made this point). The 360's lifetime likely won't be as long, nor will the Wii's. And of all systems, the Titan Wii will become outdated the quickest -- it's already showing its age.

What's my point? The PS3 never "came back" from anything. People get occupied with the short term numbers for the sake of a good story and now they are eating their words.

(I own all three systems and am not a fanboy, for the accusatory and curious.)
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 10:18PM WiiFTW said

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The only aspect the Wii is showing its age in is one of the main characeristics it doesn't hold as a top priority: graphics. Its controls have yet to be used flawlessly or to its greatest extent except for maybe MP3: Corruption.

However, I do agree with you on the fact that the PS3 is going to be here for a while.
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Posted: Mar 21st 2008 2:41AM (Unverified) said

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I could'nt have put it any better. You nailed it! Also Sony has 3 products on the market. PSP, PS3, PS2. Microsoft has 1. 3-1 equals more money for Sony.
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:37PM (Unverified) said

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I just wanted to point out that every Gran Turismo game released has sold my copies then Halo 2 (which has sold more then Halo 3).
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 9:56PM AUserName said

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Umm... thanks?
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Posted: Mar 20th 2008 10:19PM In A World said

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You're comparing apples and oranges

Gran Turismo 4 sold 9.9 million copies from March 2005 to December 2007 (two and a half years)

Halo 3 sold 8.1 million copies from September 25th, 2007 to January 3rd, 2008 (a litte over 2 months)

At this rate I'd say Halo 3 is well on it's way to overtaking Gran Turismo 4's sales.
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