According to their website, much of Ubisoft's technical support staff has taken this weekend off in observation of Good Friday and Easter. That's all well and good -- but perhaps, when they aren't draining Cadbury eggs or enjoying fine roasted hams, just one of them could take the time to Google their latest release, Rainbow Six: Vegas 2, and discover that a good portion of the console gaming world is ready to swear off all things Clancy.
Our tip box has exploded with complaints from owners of the PS3 version of the game -- apparently, a majority of those who try to play online either can't connect or have to suffer staggering amounts of lag. We'd expect a bandwidth epidemic such as this to be patched post-haste -- we guess Ubisoft didn't anticipate we'd actually want to play their game on the first weekend of Eastertide. What, did they think those terrorists would hunt themselves?
Reader Comments (108)
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:05PM (Unverified) said
Oh well. Time to go play some lag free Warhawk then...
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:27PM (Unverified) said
Oh well, time to go play it on my 360 along...the true gaming system.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:40PM (Unverified) said
Oh well. Time to go suck a railroad spike... Then, play some WarHawk in anticipation of 1.3, and eventually get back on 360 for some good ol' Call of Doody. Then maybe some WarHawk...
More Railroad Spike Sucking for Good Measure.
Probably Some Brawl with the family later... But surely more Railrod Spike Sucking.
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More Railroad Spike Sucking for Good Measure.
Probably Some Brawl with the family later... But surely more Railrod Spike Sucking.
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 1:40PM (Unverified) said
@ Huey2k2
I know, you pay for a service that has lagless dedicated servers and everything... Oh, wait.
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I know, you pay for a service that has lagless dedicated servers and everything... Oh, wait.
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 10:16PM (Unverified) said
Just one in a stack of many developers leading on 360 then porting to PS3 and/or PC as cheap and fast as possible to make a quick buck. It has little to do with hardware and everything to do with carelessness. If you want the attach rate of your games to increase on other platforms stop releasing gimped versions.
The 360 version of Bully just goes to show how bad a game can be if the crew porting it aren't there to do a quality job. When they figure that out they might actually see a rise in sales.
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The 360 version of Bully just goes to show how bad a game can be if the crew porting it aren't there to do a quality job. When they figure that out they might actually see a rise in sales.
Posted: Mar 24th 2008 11:47AM Player1 said
"Paying for online is nice when you know your games will actually work. :)"
Yeah, too bad the CONSOLE doesn't work. I'm waiting for my third RROD'd 360 to be repaired. Do you understand that? I have had three different Xbox 360s which I purchased brand new (though the in-store replacement program) and ALL have died. Getting sick of this crap.
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Yeah, too bad the CONSOLE doesn't work. I'm waiting for my third RROD'd 360 to be repaired. Do you understand that? I have had three different Xbox 360s which I purchased brand new (though the in-store replacement program) and ALL have died. Getting sick of this crap.
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:08PM xThePunisherx said
People always complain about EA, but y'know, i'm really starting to dislike Ubisoft....
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:17PM (Unverified) said
I really liked Ubisoft for a while, but yeah, bugs don't get fixed with them... I am starting to boycott them as well. Heroes 5 is buggy as hell, and that hasen't been patched in ages.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:22PM xThePunisherx said
Not exactly sure what Heroes 5 is, but as an example, i refused to buy Assassin's Creed until they made a patch. I must admit that the patch fixed everything, but the fact that it took them almost a month after release is completely unacceptable. I don't boycott companies, but Ubi is really on my nerves lately. They also just released Vegas 2, and judging from reviews, it's basically a cash-in. They look more and more like EA everyday, and EA is actually getting better. Burnout Paradise was flawless.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 2:33PM (Unverified) said
I hate Ubisoft for their crappy PC ports. Onimusha is god damn awful in the PC and Assassin’s creed was definitively what make me hate Ubisoft.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 2:51PM (Unverified) said
Yeah... Ubi used to be my favorite publisher, they made original games, with awesome gameplay, and they were willing to step up and take the blame when bad things happen, and support their games.
Not anymore it seems. We're just going to get lame re-hash Rainbow Six 2009, 2010, 2011... etc... And GRAW 2009, 2010, 2011...
They're like EA, which surprisingly has been better these days. They've brought back the Command & Conquer franchise in a real way, instead of the lame crap that was Generals. They're also investing in new IPs instead of simply making sequels.
How quickly the two companies have switched places!
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Not anymore it seems. We're just going to get lame re-hash Rainbow Six 2009, 2010, 2011... etc... And GRAW 2009, 2010, 2011...
They're like EA, which surprisingly has been better these days. They've brought back the Command & Conquer franchise in a real way, instead of the lame crap that was Generals. They're also investing in new IPs instead of simply making sequels.
How quickly the two companies have switched places!
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 3:22PM (Unverified) said
EA is doing better because they have somebody there now that actually knows what the hell is going on and knows what gamers expect (Mr. Moore anyone?).
Thanks.
Posted: Mar 24th 2008 9:16AM Duke said
Jouten - Moore is running the EA Sports division, not EA overall. The reason their products are getting better is because they as a whole have responded to market complaints. Pretty basic. Companies do that - to make money. See how that works?
Ubi on the otherhand has gotten lazy as of late and seems to be falling into the trap of making crap for quick cash.
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Ubi on the otherhand has gotten lazy as of late and seems to be falling into the trap of making crap for quick cash.
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:10PM mattamusprime said
It's happening on the 360 side too. A huge amount of lag and constant disconnects
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:24PM xThePunisherx said
Is it really? If so, that would put the blame even further on the developer, and not on the "impossible-to-develop-for" PS3. I hate when people say that...
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:20PM (Unverified) said
Charming. Of course, in the end, it'll be the PS3 that gets bashed for this, and not the lazy developers that decided to make a "satisfactory" port of a 360 game.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:41PM (Unverified) said
It is not happening on the 360 at all. Almost all the games are super smooth. Nice try though.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:46PM (Unverified) said
Reformation, can you read?
I didn't say ANYTHING about the quality of the 360 version. I'm sure it's fine. I said the developer made a "satisfactory" port.
But thanks for jumping in anyway.
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I didn't say ANYTHING about the quality of the 360 version. I'm sure it's fine. I said the developer made a "satisfactory" port.
But thanks for jumping in anyway.
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 4:08PM Jamesology said
HAHAHHAHAHA Reformation is an IDIOT!!!
Here Reformation it may help:
A= Apple
B= Bee
C= Cat
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Here Reformation it may help:
A= Apple
B= Bee
C= Cat
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 4:23PM Dr Stabbingworth said
And all these years I thought
A = A
B = B
C = C
Time to burn my English degree...
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A = A
B = B
C = C
Time to burn my English degree...
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:37PM (Unverified) said
Well, what to say? It's Ubisoft. The technical quality of their games has sucked for quite a while now. The multiplayer part of the PC version of Vegas was basically delivered in an unusable state; it took them five patches or so to get it fixed.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 1:01PM WonderWeazel said
I have had the game since day 1. I've only disconnected once, when I was connected to my friend who was hosting the game from the UK. Other than that I've had no issues with the 360 version.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:41PM (Unverified) said
What'd ya mean "PS3 side" ... I've been playing the 360 version all weekend and can't play "versus" at all the lag is so bad.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 3:27PM (Unverified) said
Check your service provider because I haven't had one issue...
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:41PM (Unverified) said
Speaking of taking the weekend off - Griffin McElroy seems to be the only Joystiq staffer that didn't :)
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 4:40PM Korova Pamplona said
Griffin is the Weekend Machine! Its like that every weekend.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 8:38PM (Unverified) said
GREAT PICTURE AND NAME!!!!!
Jesus christ I love the wire.. Although I thought this final season was rushed due to the 10 episode limitations. Also, the way Omar went out was total BS!!! Getting killed by little ass Kenard WTF is that about anyway???? McNutty not getting killed or arrested for the homeless murder BS???
MUCH PROPS TO YOU OMAR!!!!
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Jesus christ I love the wire.. Although I thought this final season was rushed due to the 10 episode limitations. Also, the way Omar went out was total BS!!! Getting killed by little ass Kenard WTF is that about anyway???? McNutty not getting killed or arrested for the homeless murder BS???
MUCH PROPS TO YOU OMAR!!!!
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 12:49PM Halorin said
I've only really played Terrorist Hunts, and while I'd randomly be unable to connect to a game, the ones I did connect to were very smooth and enjoyable on the PS3.
I guess it's a classic 'your milegage may very', but I would blame this more on Ubisoft than either the 360 or the PS3. I still think a class action lawsuit should be put on them for what they called 'Rainbow Six Vegas' and released on the PS3. Hell has a special seat just for them on that one.
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I guess it's a classic 'your milegage may very', but I would blame this more on Ubisoft than either the 360 or the PS3. I still think a class action lawsuit should be put on them for what they called 'Rainbow Six Vegas' and released on the PS3. Hell has a special seat just for them on that one.
Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 1:03PM (Unverified) said
Well, since its the same price as the 'glorious' 360 version, it should be the same quality.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 2:26PM (Unverified) said
You would hope so but it's a Sony licensed product so there's no quality control.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 10:05PM (Unverified) said
Let me get this straight ... you are railing against Sony for quality control issues? I just lol'ed in my pants.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2008 3:38AM (Unverified) said
I'm still waiting for Sony to steal quality control from someone......sigh one can dream.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 1:13PM (Unverified) said
For me lag hasn't been a problem at all. But it's a pain when over 90% of the hosted matches can't be joined due to generic network errors, or you get a message the match is full even though there's several open slots. I've had a few games drop on me also, but in those cases it's hard to tell if it's an infrastructure issue or if the host just quited. Online is pretty decent when it works, but getting into a match is extremely broken.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2008 1:16PM (Unverified) said
"a good portion of the console gaming world is ready to swear off all things Clancy."
Really? A "good portion" = a forum post with 11 comments in it, on the IGN VN boards, the biggest cesspool on the internet?
So digging beyond the one link you provided to back up this story, a look at the official forums indicates that yes, some people are having trouble on the PS3. How about reporting that in a lot of cases, those problems are coming from people's net connections? That those people also have problems with COD4 online? That in many cases, adjusting their routers and whatever else actually works? Or that some folks woke up Easter morning and found that it was just less clogged up and their games worked fine?
How about also pointing out that Vegas 2 is a peer-to-peer game? i.e., there are no servers, all games are peer-hosted and therefore depend on the quality of the connection of the host?
Also, god forbid the poor tech support bastards take off one of the biggest religious holidays of the year.
This story is like a Fox News story of the gaming world. Jesus guys, lay off the sensationalist horsecrap.
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Really? A "good portion" = a forum post with 11 comments in it, on the IGN VN boards, the biggest cesspool on the internet?
So digging beyond the one link you provided to back up this story, a look at the official forums indicates that yes, some people are having trouble on the PS3. How about reporting that in a lot of cases, those problems are coming from people's net connections? That those people also have problems with COD4 online? That in many cases, adjusting their routers and whatever else actually works? Or that some folks woke up Easter morning and found that it was just less clogged up and their games worked fine?
How about also pointing out that Vegas 2 is a peer-to-peer game? i.e., there are no servers, all games are peer-hosted and therefore depend on the quality of the connection of the host?
Also, god forbid the poor tech support bastards take off one of the biggest religious holidays of the year.
This story is like a Fox News story of the gaming world. Jesus guys, lay off the sensationalist horsecrap.
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