N+ devs stand behind recent XBLA comments

Like I said on the Fanboy site, XBLA is getting alot of hate lately I think its a good service personally.

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It's good to see they aren't backing down on what they said. I think the fact that they mention the interview happened -before- N+ was released is important, and their comments weren't just a reaction to bad sales

While there certainly is a fair amount of crap on XBLA, I don't think the ratio is that much worse than the good-to-crap ratio of the retail games. I think the biggest problem with XBLA is that a lot of good but not great games are overpriced or under-developed.

Considering the amount of content that is provided by the MS Service, I don't see anything but positives. Take in account how little the offerings are from the other services, I still think that MS is the only choice to get peoples games to market, other than the PC market only crowd.

XBLA's response: The N+ developers are doodyheads

It seems as if most of the complaints for XBLA are the amount of game rehashes and file size limit. Limiting rehashes and raising/completely removing the size limit, wouldn't it be win-win then?

While there is alot of crap out there on the service. At least the users have a chance to try out a free demo to decide for themselves. Unlike the other services so far.

I have to say though, there has been a greater number of quality games that have been released on the service this year compared to last year already. And it looks like it's just going to get better with the likes of Bionic Commando, Dishwasher and Ikaruga.

Though I agree with much of what Microsoft does I must say that their memory limits they have in place really is a barrier in front of them. Of course there is the fact that if they do stretch out their limit then XBLM could get over crowded. Though this can be fixed by simply hiring game testers to rate how good a game is(somewhere in the range of 50+ to get a fair perspective) that way they kill off 2 birds with one stone: The quality of their games and space issues.

To me there are only 3 games worth owning on XBLA. Alien hominid, N+and geometry wars...To possibly make my point stronger, all of those games are available in one form or another for free somewhere else.

Honestly comparing features of N+ and alien hominid (800 MSPOINTS) against, say, every other XBLA game, and you'll notice that they dominate. Especially when compared to shitty shityy SHITTY retro remakes I don't give a crap about. These are just straight ports offering nothing new (unlike the ones I've bought) and I can easily get better homebrew versions on the internet.

I was browsing some XBLA games just now and honestly there is a very nice selection of games... I still say Pixel Junk Monsters is my favorite DL game of all time but XBLA is one hell of a service.... I hope the Wii Ware service tunrs out similar to the PSN and XBLA in terms of quality... I also hope they release a HDD for storage purposes b/c I refuse to buy an SD card to flip flop through games on...PSN pales in comparison to XBLA in terms of sheer volume but it makes up for it with some quality games (PJ Monsters, PAIN, High Velocity, fLoW, Everyday Shooter amongst others). Live just offers such a diverse set of games from all genres thats its tough to compare to it... With more quantity you will see less quality but there are still a lot of gems for the 360's XBLA service. The addition of the Community Arcade will certainly add more to that as well.... The Virtual Console is great and all but I want to see some original IPs from Nintendo through the Wii Ware service... And as I said something has to be done in terms of a HDD or removable media that the wii can boot up from... How is it Nintendo can get everything right in terms of 1 simple SKU and wagge motion IR controls but miss so badly on the Online component and HDD storage capacity.... Its almost scary how much better this system would be with a little cheap HDD space and a solid online architecture...Hopefully we get games better than that kitten mollestation castle defender crap...

@ScottyGEE32 - Maybe I'm just picky or something, but I can't think of a restaurant I've ever been to that I've liked everything on the menu. Most places, my selections stay within ten percent of the menu items and I think most people are the same way...but their favorite ten percent isn't my favorite ten percent and I'm not the kind of person that feels the need to equate something that's not to my personal tastes to crap. Personally, while I think N+ is a fine game it's not my cup of tea...I'd buy Word Puzzle long before I'd buy N+ because I like word seek puzzles more than platforming puzzles...but I'm not paying for either of them anyway because I don't think either of them are worth $10.

They need a better way of sorting the games. Sometimes, I just want to see Arcade games, and I don't mean NEARLY EVERY GAME ON THERE. Puzzle games, board games, Arcade Ports, Console ports, etc. There's good stuff on the service for sure, but whoever designs their menu system should be shot... with a water gun. Repeatedly.

XBLA has Doom, therefore XBLA rocks.

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*still stick by

I think the N+ developers are bitter their game didn't sell as well as they expected.

Sure XBLA has alot of games...not all good....but as in anything COMPETITION BREEDS QUALITY.

If N+ can't stand out enough to beat an arcade classic like DISCS OF TRON...or BOMBERMAN or a simple game like UNO....

Thats on them....not the service.

They say the xbox arcade is full of crap and they don't eve fix the damn game.

N+ is sort of brilliant in a way but full of bad decisions and some bugs also that if they didn't accept MS terms in the first place why they agreed? Yeah I know money and now that the thing went wrong they regret the decision.

They are complaining that MS forced them to release the game in 800p which is still acceptable for something like N+ even if it is free on the Pc and that’s my opinion I mean at least they tried but funny how Sierra online can place a game like Assault Heroes in 400P and they can’t.

Didn't they want to let people openly swap maps, and have custom maps openly available, but MS said no? If anything, this should get them to release their full on wrath on the idiots at MS.

I agree with their comments on the way Xbox Live Arcade works - there are a lot of crappy games on there and nothing is going to get done about it. However, pulling out great games like Halo, New Super Mario Bros. and Super Stardust HD as 'justification' is something I do not agree with at all. How can we take their "loads of XBLA games are crap" when they're grouping these critically-acclaimed games with the XBLA stinkers in question?

I totally agree that most of the games on XBLA are crap. Early on in the service, when new games finally started to release on a regular basis, I'd download and play every demo, and then not buy the full game. At some point I just stopped trying the demos.

Why can't every single XBLA game look as good as say, New Super Mario Bros?

I think the problem with these guys is the language they're using. Phrases like "total crap" and "utter garbage" aren't typically used for debate or "opening dialogue," they're mostly just for trashtalking.

If they want to have a proper dialogue they should use language that isn't so inflammatory and back up some of their statements better. Simply saying that New Super Mario Bros. sucked does not do wonders for their credibility. I thought NSMB was an enjoyable platformer, but it was over too quickly and had no replay value and didn't have the same whimsical imagination as SMB3. See what I did there? I presented my opinion in an analytical way instead of just saying that compared to SMB3, NSMB sucked.

They make a good point that no matter what some people will like a game and some will not. But there IS some amount of objectivity there, otherwise we wouldn't have video game critics because what would be the point? By looking at how a game is designed, the presentation of the game, and various technical aspects (bugs? smooth frame rate? etc.), critics can fairly accurately tell an audience whether or not a game is "good."

They may not enjoy Halo's style of gameplay, but I hope they can admit that the games are well designed with incredible presentation values and virtually flawless technical aspects. I personally distaste Halo's multiplayer competition, especially after my COD4 obsession, but I do still admit that it's designed well. I'm just saying it's not my style of gameplay, because for an FPS it seems way too focused on "controlling" the power weapons of the map, and the game in general plays too slow for my tastes.

The problem with most XBLA games (and far too many retail games) is that many are not designed well, have terrible presentation, and at times shotty technical flaws.

I agree with the ninja. Always side with the ninja.