Netflix surveys customers about service on Xbox 360

If they manage to do this, then consider me reactivating my netflix account from 3 years ago.

every single character that composes your comment agrees with me

Unprecedented harmony.

Um Fernandos,
Netflix is going to do this with the 360 AND the PS3.
My question is, will they do HD? And if they do, how close to Blu-ray will it look without taking days to DL?
What will be the average file-size? How long will we be able to view the rentals?

MS already offers HD downloads on Live and you can stream them just fine.

And some KayRazy WiiSports Machine boys cannot understand that different people have DIFFERENT opinions.
You think that Live is the best...fine.
Not everyone does.
You are not right nor wrong.
Man Fernandos...please stop stating your OPINIONS as FACTS.
It just makes you look more desperate and dumber than you already are.

deaftly,
How many days can you keeep them? I thought it was 2 days. Please clear up my ignorance on Live's DL movie service.
Thanks

KrazyKen

This is a Live thread... I can post my opinion if I want. I can say that Live is the best console online service, and if you don't agree, then don't reply to me.

Kind of contradicting yourself Fernando, if you can voice your opinion, then KrazyKen should be allowed to voice his opinion about your post.

Its ok fernando, he just hates it when people express an opinion as fact (also known as an opinion) when its not the same opinion he has.

Krazy K... When you DL a movie through xbox live it is good for 14 days. Once you start watching it you have it for 24 hrs.

Hrm, sorry to say but it is a fact that Xbox Live is better than PSN and Nintendo's Wi-Fi service. Unless you weight the yearly fee against the Live there is nothing PSN does better with the small exception of how content is purchased online. For online gaming though the fact is Live is better than PSN in all ways.

Until I can private chat and check messages in my games on PSN or have working voice chat in every game the fact will remain the same.

Anticrawl

And don't forget the Game Invites.

Fernando: this is a speculative article, and even that says there doesn't appear to be any buy-in from Microsoft.

Are you really this desperate?

"Are you [Fernando] really this desperate?"

Is that question rhetorical? Because Ken's the only other one I've seen willing to consistently match Fernando's...enthusiasm for a console.

"Hrm, sorry to say but it is a fact that Xbox Live is better than PSN and Nintendo's Wi-Fi service."

This is NOT a fact. This is your opinion. Yes Live has more features (until Home comes out) than PSN, but saying that is is a FACT that it is better is NOT TRUE.

DO you and Fernandos know the difference between what constitutes a FACT and what constitutes an opinion?

Answer, NO you do not.

In my OPINION, Live is better right now.
Also in my OPINION, PSN will be better once Home comes out.

See? Not so hard is it.

"This is NOT a fact. This is your opinion."

Correct, it's not a fact Ken. But it's not a fact like evolution is not a fact. The PSN meets my needs, and more importantly, it is free. So it's the superior service to me.

Yet that doesn't erase the fact that Microsoft made some very nice innovations first. And those innovations apply to more people. Perhaps Home & associated updates will make it the superior service for free...but I prefer to speak of the present.

I know something better KrazyKen. Just shut up cause 360 rains dominance over PS3 (A.K.A. Piece Of Sh** 3) and the level service of PSN is nowhere near the service of Live. What good will Home do anyway? Its Second Life on a next gen system.

I think killjebus doesn't know what an opinion is, nor the most common way of stating them.

"Its Second Life on a next gen system."

Is that supposed to be an insult? The PS3 would be the luckiest belle at the ball if that's the case. Do you know how much money those obsessive 'effers spend per hour?

$64,019.45 - from a Reuters tally yesterday.

Unless your name happens to be Blizzard, that's pretty good dough for a game with no plot or set mechanics.

Ken (Marry Me Mario for the new folks here), You should never lecture people on the difference between fact and opinion. Thats a joke. How many times have you used your opinion as fact to support your anti-MS crusade?

Now, your points on Live are, as always, baseless. The Live DL service for movies works just fine right now. My GF loves to use it and it sure as hell does not take a long time to get a movie going.

Stop posting your warped desires about MS being messed up as fact.

"How many times have you used your opinion as fact to support your anti-MS crusade?"

Please Nato...enlighten me. Show me where I have said something was a FACT without some kind of proof. If I have...then I stand corrected son, and I is sorrah fer my fibbin'

Ken, don't call me son. You reek of disrespect as you always do when called out.

We have pointed this opinion as fact problem out to you many times. I don't think I need to cite examples. If people wish they can just read the majority of your posts about the PS3 being the best thing ever. The only people that would disagree after being here long are the other painfully ignorant slaves that nod their head to anything pro-Sony without considering the other brands out there.

"You reek of disrespect as you always do when called out."

I meant no disrespect when I called you son, son. However, I could care less about respect with faceless people on the Internet. And lastly....they are just words. WORDS!

Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me...remember that old rhyme son?

"I don't think I need to cite examples."

Well thats just pretty darn tootin convenient now isnt it. You tell me I have done something, I ask for proof, and you say...NO PROOF 4 YOU.

Come correct son.

And people jumped up my ass when I bitched at his return.

See what you get for not listening to me then. :)

"However, I could care less about respect with faceless people on the Internet."

The phrase is "I couldn't care less." Perhaps you should worry about correcting your own mistakes and not be so worried about what other people say.

To KayRazy
"You tell me I have done something, I ask for proof, and you say...NO PROOF 4 YOU.

Come correct son."

You asked for it, son.


"By the end of this year...the 360 will look old and crippled next to the PS3."

"How can a system that has been on the market since Nov. 2005 have supply constraints? Either it is POOR planning or the RROD is taking away too many systems that should go to retail."

"If they did that, then they could not nickel and dime the consumer like they do with everything.
Sony said this was a marathon, they took their lumps and now they are yet again going to come out on top thanks to THINKING AHEAD and not short-term."

Dude, that's not even all of them. Who's the asshole now? Oh wait, it's still you...son. Oh, who the fuck am I kidding? My most retarded sperm would come out better than you.

@Synner
Fernando isn't malicious like KayRazyKen though. Ken just seems like an angry little boy.

@Ken/Killjebus
Although PSN has great "potential," that's all it is, something that hasn't come to fruition. Xbox Live's features are in the here-and-now. Besides having to pay for online multiplayer and the points currency, Xbox Live has PSN beat by feature (fact) comparison.

Don't get me wrong, I want PSN to flourish as much as you do. It spurs competition!

@ the topic on-hand
If this were true, I know people will buy a 360 for this; bigger library of movies on marketplace and great games! If Netflix is bringing their stuff on XBLM, sign me up!

Here's an opinion: Ken is an arsehole.

Thats not an opinion, benny.

In the latest philosophical news:

every statement of fact involves a judgment, making it tinged with opinion. The concept of fact as something objective and independent of human processing is misleading, because such facts are impossible to state or communicate (those actions requiring a human medium to transmit a fact).

The true challenge is to identify an opinion that is more convincing than another, applying standards common to all discussion participants.

In other word, first agree on the standard for being the best online service and then fanboy away.

Yes fernando, right now XBL is better, that seems pretty obvious when I can't send a message to a friend while Im in (most) games on ps3. but the in game msging and game invites as well as custom soundtracks will be some of the new options available with in game xmb access. And with Home adding a complete new dimension to online gaming I don't think after this summer you will be able to say that XBL is the best online service.


We should also acknowledge the couple things that the PSN does better. Having dedicated servers for some games is an excellent feature. Resistance 2 will be a prime example of this by having 60 person online matches lag free. resistance FOM and warhawk are other good examples. In this sense for lag free and large match fps and 3ps gaming PSN offers a definite bonus.

Secondly The 150mb cap on XBLA is ridiculously constraining for developers, capcom amost others have talked about lowering texture resolutions and cutting audio in order to accommodate this. Not only that, but frankly some games are just not possible. Warhawk would never be possible on XBLA and niether would grand turismo prologue.

So yes, XBL is better for the time being. When In game XMB is released in june and I can msg in game, send invites and custom soundtracks. Then yeah, they are equal (except in the dedicated server department) Then when home is released (spring 08? June 08?) I think PSN will be greater. Especially because it is completely free.


So I mean it depends on your perspective man. But saying XBL FTW FOREVEr. Its not totally accurate.

as it stands XBL is the best, PSN is in second, Wii Online is a fucking joke,

But if home and in game xmb comes out and is as awesome as it looks, and games like resistence 2 and killzone 2 are totally awesome and the ps3 continues to outsell xbox360 and becomes teh dominant lead development console. Well yah, things could change completely.

The guy who's first screen name on Joystiq was "GodisaMyth" and spouted anti-Christian tripe anytime he could on a gaming blog is now claiming he has never touted his opinion as fact before?!

You mean the same guy that has been banned from Joystiq for trolling? GodisaMyth/Marry Me Mario, I don't think it's possible to take you seriously for your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

For a guy who is so anti-religious, you sure support Sony religiously...

Holy shit. This fact vs. opinion argument is L-A-M-E. Weak sauce, son. Weak sauce.

"Resistance 2 will be a prime example of this by having 60 person online matches lag free."

OK, tell me, where did you buy that time machine? How can you know what lag there is in a game that doesn't exist yet?

"I wish NetFlix would ship games, instead."

May I offer a heartfelt Amen? Blockbuster took itself out of the running for me when they rescinded the gaming pass offer.

I live near cleveland. That's cool.

Honestly, Samfish? Because it maximizes their profits by not forcing them to buy the necessary amount of games to cover their customer base, while being able to blame shipping issues on the USPS. I got fed up with GameFly's bullshit a while ago and cancelled my subscription.

You're right, if Netflix got into game rentals, and kept the same level of customer service we're used to, they'd clean the fuck up.

And the most frustrating part about the GameFly thing? THEY ARE THE BEST. Out of all of the competition I've tried, Gamefly actually came out on top. And they suck. Sigh.

Oooh...Silverlight is pretty sexy stuff from MS. I would like to see this once they get it in place.

And also, I'm super stoked for this if it does end up happening. Already being a Netflix user, I would love the ability to just rent one every now and then directly instead of having to wait for a disc in the mail.

Yeah Silverlight is pretty cool. I had a chance to watch an HD video using it, and was amazed.

I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this earlier, but last year Netflix's CEO and founder DID join Microsoft's board. Hmm.... :)

Here's a demonstration of Netflix using Silverlight if anyone is interested. Pretty cool stuff.

http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9714005-2.html

No, it won't be a huge sidestep for quite a few reasons.

People that don't own an Xbox or PS3 watch movies too.

Not a lot of movie companies are going to jump on board (for example, take a look at the current list of movies that Netflix offers for PC streaming. It's very little).

For the Netflix streaming service on the PC, you need a 3mbs connection to view movies at DVD quality. No idea what you would need for HD movies but there's quite a few people that don't have access to those speeds.

Most likely the sound is going to take a hit. I would imagine that streaming sound in 7.1 takes quite a bit of bandwidth.

It's just a rental. People will still want to buy physical copies.