Netflix surveys customers about service on Xbox 360
by Alexander Sliwinski 
{ Mar 25th 2008 at 1:00PM }
The whole "Netflix on consoles" thing has been batting around for a while with reports last month that Netflix was running surveys to gauge consumer interest. Netflix has made no secret that it wants to be on consoles and our eyebrows were already raised way up early last year when Netflix CEO Reed Hastings joined the Microsoft board of directors. If Microsoft doesn't want to go down the Blu-ray path, but still wants to offer a service that makes it stand out, Netflix would certainly make a marquee alternative.
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Intentless @ Mar 25th 2008 1:06PM
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deaftly @ Mar 25th 2008 1:08PM
Instant win if they do this.
tim @ Mar 25th 2008 2:34PM
If they manage to do this, then consider me reactivating my netflix account from 3 years ago.
miyagi @ Mar 25th 2008 1:09PM
If they do this as a subscription service similar to how Netflix is done now sign me right up. Better would be if the downloads were HD and were included as part of a normal Netflix subscription (doubtfull but we can hope). Even if it was just a little bit more then my normal Netflix account I would be the first to sign up. Decent HD streaming content FTW!
I would still buy physical media (DVD/BD) but there are only select movies worth owning IMO
Korova @ Mar 25th 2008 4:17PM
every single character that composes your comment agrees with me
Unprecedented harmony.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 25th 2008 1:11PM
I'd sign on with a subscription rental service.
Fernando Rocker @ Mar 25th 2008 1:11PM
And some blind and jealous people say that Live is not the best online service...
Marry me Mario PSN: Killjebus @ Mar 25th 2008 1:15PM
Um Fernandos,
Netflix is going to do this with the 360 AND the PS3.
My question is, will they do HD? And if they do, how close to Blu-ray will it look without taking days to DL?
What will be the average file-size? How long will we be able to view the rentals?
deaftly @ Mar 25th 2008 1:17PM
MS already offers HD downloads on Live and you can stream them just fine.
Marry me Mario PSN: Killjebus @ Mar 25th 2008 1:18PM
And some KayRazy WiiSports Machine boys cannot understand that different people have DIFFERENT opinions.
You think that Live is the best...fine.
Not everyone does.
You are not right nor wrong.
Man Fernandos...please stop stating your OPINIONS as FACTS.
It just makes you look more desperate and dumber than you already are.
Marry me Mario PSN: Killjebus @ Mar 25th 2008 1:20PM
deaftly,
How many days can you keeep them? I thought it was 2 days. Please clear up my ignorance on Live's DL movie service.
Thanks
Fernando Rocker @ Mar 25th 2008 1:20PM
KrazyKen
This is a Live thread... I can post my opinion if I want. I can say that Live is the best console online service, and if you don't agree, then don't reply to me.
simmcity @ Mar 25th 2008 1:25PM
Kind of contradicting yourself Fernando, if you can voice your opinion, then KrazyKen should be allowed to voice his opinion about your post.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 25th 2008 1:25PM
Its ok fernando, he just hates it when people express an opinion as fact (also known as an opinion) when its not the same opinion he has.
Intentless @ Mar 25th 2008 1:30PM
Krazy K... When you DL a movie through xbox live it is good for 14 days. Once you start watching it you have it for 24 hrs.
Anticrawl @ Mar 25th 2008 1:35PM
Hrm, sorry to say but it is a fact that Xbox Live is better than PSN and Nintendo's Wi-Fi service. Unless you weight the yearly fee against the Live there is nothing PSN does better with the small exception of how content is purchased online. For online gaming though the fact is Live is better than PSN in all ways.
Until I can private chat and check messages in my games on PSN or have working voice chat in every game the fact will remain the same.
Fernando Rocker @ Mar 25th 2008 1:41PM
Anticrawl
And don't forget the Game Invites.
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Mar 25th 2008 1:43PM
Fernando: this is a speculative article, and even that says there doesn't appear to be any buy-in from Microsoft.
Are you really this desperate?
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Mar 25th 2008 1:52PM
"Are you [Fernando] really this desperate?"
Is that question rhetorical? Because Ken's the only other one I've seen willing to consistently match Fernando's...enthusiasm for a console.
Marry me Mario PSN: Killjebus @ Mar 25th 2008 2:02PM
"Hrm, sorry to say but it is a fact that Xbox Live is better than PSN and Nintendo's Wi-Fi service."
This is NOT a fact. This is your opinion. Yes Live has more features (until Home comes out) than PSN, but saying that is is a FACT that it is better is NOT TRUE.
DO you and Fernandos know the difference between what constitutes a FACT and what constitutes an opinion?
Answer, NO you do not.
In my OPINION, Live is better right now.
Also in my OPINION, PSN will be better once Home comes out.
See? Not so hard is it.
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Mar 25th 2008 2:09PM
"This is NOT a fact. This is your opinion."
Correct, it's not a fact Ken. But it's not a fact like evolution is not a fact. The PSN meets my needs, and more importantly, it is free. So it's the superior service to me.
Yet that doesn't erase the fact that Microsoft made some very nice innovations first. And those innovations apply to more people. Perhaps Home & associated updates will make it the superior service for free...but I prefer to speak of the present.
Mrblonde @ Mar 25th 2008 2:17PM
I know something better KrazyKen. Just shut up cause 360 rains dominance over PS3 (A.K.A. Piece Of Sh** 3) and the level service of PSN is nowhere near the service of Live. What good will Home do anyway? Its Second Life on a next gen system.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 25th 2008 2:18PM
I think killjebus doesn't know what an opinion is, nor the most common way of stating them.
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Mar 25th 2008 2:30PM
"Its Second Life on a next gen system."
Is that supposed to be an insult? The PS3 would be the luckiest belle at the ball if that's the case. Do you know how much money those obsessive 'effers spend per hour?
$64,019.45 - from a Reuters tally yesterday.
Unless your name happens to be Blizzard, that's pretty good dough for a game with no plot or set mechanics.
NATO_Duke @ Mar 25th 2008 2:41PM
Ken (Marry Me Mario for the new folks here), You should never lecture people on the difference between fact and opinion. Thats a joke. How many times have you used your opinion as fact to support your anti-MS crusade?
Now, your points on Live are, as always, baseless. The Live DL service for movies works just fine right now. My GF loves to use it and it sure as hell does not take a long time to get a movie going.
Stop posting your warped desires about MS being messed up as fact.
Marry me Mario PSN: Killjebus @ Mar 25th 2008 2:45PM
"How many times have you used your opinion as fact to support your anti-MS crusade?"
Please Nato...enlighten me. Show me where I have said something was a FACT without some kind of proof. If I have...then I stand corrected son, and I is sorrah fer my fibbin'
NATO_Duke @ Mar 25th 2008 2:50PM
Ken, don't call me son. You reek of disrespect as you always do when called out.
We have pointed this opinion as fact problem out to you many times. I don't think I need to cite examples. If people wish they can just read the majority of your posts about the PS3 being the best thing ever. The only people that would disagree after being here long are the other painfully ignorant slaves that nod their head to anything pro-Sony without considering the other brands out there.
Marry me Mario PSN: Killjebus @ Mar 25th 2008 2:56PM
"You reek of disrespect as you always do when called out."
I meant no disrespect when I called you son, son. However, I could care less about respect with faceless people on the Internet. And lastly....they are just words. WORDS!
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me...remember that old rhyme son?
"I don't think I need to cite examples."
Well thats just pretty darn tootin convenient now isnt it. You tell me I have done something, I ask for proof, and you say...NO PROOF 4 YOU.
Come correct son.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 25th 2008 3:06PM
And people jumped up my ass when I bitched at his return.
See what you get for not listening to me then. :)
the Brayn @ Mar 25th 2008 3:28PM
"However, I could care less about respect with faceless people on the Internet."
The phrase is "I couldn't care less." Perhaps you should worry about correcting your own mistakes and not be so worried about what other people say.
Worst Review Ever @ Mar 25th 2008 3:38PM
To KayRazy
"You tell me I have done something, I ask for proof, and you say...NO PROOF 4 YOU.
Come correct son."
You asked for it, son.
"By the end of this year...the 360 will look old and crippled next to the PS3."
"How can a system that has been on the market since Nov. 2005 have supply constraints? Either it is POOR planning or the RROD is taking away too many systems that should go to retail."
"If they did that, then they could not nickel and dime the consumer like they do with everything.
Sony said this was a marathon, they took their lumps and now they are yet again going to come out on top thanks to THINKING AHEAD and not short-term."
Dude, that's not even all of them. Who's the asshole now? Oh wait, it's still you...son. Oh, who the fuck am I kidding? My most retarded sperm would come out better than you.
Synner @ Mar 25th 2008 3:41PM
No way Crono, I had your back. I mean I was certain godisamythIamanidiot/hardgaytard/krazy(but I'm still all about his nuts)ken/killjeebus cried and took his toys and went home, because of all of us meanies on the big bad interwebs were ganging up on him, and we couldn't see the PS3 for the second coming of Christ that it really is.
Fuck you ken,
Fuck you in your fucking asses.
I sincerely hope your PS3 catches fire and you perish in the resulting inferno.
but no not really, it's nice to have someone around to compare fernando to whenever I start to think he is the most full of shit fanboy on the planet.
E.J. @ Mar 25th 2008 4:02PM
@Synner
Fernando isn't malicious like KayRazyKen though. Ken just seems like an angry little boy.
@Ken/Killjebus
Although PSN has great "potential," that's all it is, something that hasn't come to fruition. Xbox Live's features are in the here-and-now. Besides having to pay for online multiplayer and the points currency, Xbox Live has PSN beat by feature (fact) comparison.
Don't get me wrong, I want PSN to flourish as much as you do. It spurs competition!
@ the topic on-hand
If this were true, I know people will buy a 360 for this; bigger library of movies on marketplace and great games! If Netflix is bringing their stuff on XBLM, sign me up!
Benny @ Mar 25th 2008 4:07PM
Here's an opinion: Ken is an arsehole.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 25th 2008 4:25PM
Thats not an opinion, benny.
Korova @ Mar 25th 2008 4:30PM
In the latest philosophical news:
every statement of fact involves a judgment, making it tinged with opinion. The concept of fact as something objective and independent of human processing is misleading, because such facts are impossible to state or communicate (those actions requiring a human medium to transmit a fact).
The true challenge is to identify an opinion that is more convincing than another, applying standards common to all discussion participants.
In other word, first agree on the standard for being the best online service and then fanboy away.
unboring @ Mar 25th 2008 7:09PM
Yes fernando, right now XBL is better, that seems pretty obvious when I can't send a message to a friend while Im in (most) games on ps3. but the in game msging and game invites as well as custom soundtracks will be some of the new options available with in game xmb access. And with Home adding a complete new dimension to online gaming I don't think after this summer you will be able to say that XBL is the best online service.
We should also acknowledge the couple things that the PSN does better. Having dedicated servers for some games is an excellent feature. Resistance 2 will be a prime example of this by having 60 person online matches lag free. resistance FOM and warhawk are other good examples. In this sense for lag free and large match fps and 3ps gaming PSN offers a definite bonus.
Secondly The 150mb cap on XBLA is ridiculously constraining for developers, capcom amost others have talked about lowering texture resolutions and cutting audio in order to accommodate this. Not only that, but frankly some games are just not possible. Warhawk would never be possible on XBLA and niether would grand turismo prologue.
So yes, XBL is better for the time being. When In game XMB is released in june and I can msg in game, send invites and custom soundtracks. Then yeah, they are equal (except in the dedicated server department) Then when home is released (spring 08? June 08?) I think PSN will be greater. Especially because it is completely free.
So I mean it depends on your perspective man. But saying XBL FTW FOREVEr. Its not totally accurate.
as it stands XBL is the best, PSN is in second, Wii Online is a fucking joke,
But if home and in game xmb comes out and is as awesome as it looks, and games like resistence 2 and killzone 2 are totally awesome and the ps3 continues to outsell xbox360 and becomes teh dominant lead development console. Well yah, things could change completely.
Spartacus @ Mar 25th 2008 9:26PM
The guy who's first screen name on Joystiq was "GodisaMyth" and spouted anti-Christian tripe anytime he could on a gaming blog is now claiming he has never touted his opinion as fact before?!
You mean the same guy that has been banned from Joystiq for trolling? GodisaMyth/Marry Me Mario, I don't think it's possible to take you seriously for your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
For a guy who is so anti-religious, you sure support Sony religiously...
brad77 @ Mar 26th 2008 1:21AM
Holy shit. This fact vs. opinion argument is L-A-M-E. Weak sauce, son. Weak sauce.
NATO_Duke @ Mar 26th 2008 9:48AM
"Resistance 2 will be a prime example of this by having 60 person online matches lag free."
OK, tell me, where did you buy that time machine? How can you know what lag there is in a game that doesn't exist yet?
samfish (Brawl: 2793 0291 2277) @ Mar 25th 2008 1:26PM
I wish NetFlix would ship games, instead. GameFly sucks. They have a center in Pittsburgh while I'm in freakin' Cleveland and it STILL takes a week to send and receive new games!
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Mar 25th 2008 1:57PM
"I wish NetFlix would ship games, instead."
May I offer a heartfelt Amen? Blockbuster took itself out of the running for me when they rescinded the gaming pass offer.
GhostofGrendel @ Mar 25th 2008 2:43PM
I live near cleveland. That's cool.
baby sea tuna @ Mar 25th 2008 2:30PM
Honestly, Samfish? Because it maximizes their profits by not forcing them to buy the necessary amount of games to cover their customer base, while being able to blame shipping issues on the USPS. I got fed up with GameFly's bullshit a while ago and cancelled my subscription.
You're right, if Netflix got into game rentals, and kept the same level of customer service we're used to, they'd clean the fuck up.
Synner @ Mar 25th 2008 3:47PM
They have a center in Pittsburgh while I'm in freakin' Cleveland and it STILL takes a week to send and receive new games!
Let's analyze that statement for a second, seriously....
You think any self respecting person from Da 'burgh is going to care about a guy in Cleveland getting their games in a timely manner?
I mean really.
Synner @ Mar 25th 2008 3:49PM
For the record, I get my gamefly selections pretty quickly from the NY location overseas to Italy through the crappy military mail system. you should call and bitch.
WedgeTalon @ Mar 25th 2008 11:31PM
And the most frustrating part about the GameFly thing? THEY ARE THE BEST. Out of all of the competition I've tried, Gamefly actually came out on top. And they suck. Sigh.
nick @ Mar 25th 2008 1:28PM
Netflix stated back in January that it was looking at expanding it's streaming offerings to Mac users, game consoles, and to a set top box in 2008. And they're apprarently going to use Microsoft's Silverlight technology.
StrangeBum @ Mar 25th 2008 1:48PM
Oooh...Silverlight is pretty sexy stuff from MS. I would like to see this once they get it in place.
And also, I'm super stoked for this if it does end up happening. Already being a Netflix user, I would love the ability to just rent one every now and then directly instead of having to wait for a disc in the mail.
nick @ Mar 25th 2008 3:42PM
Yeah Silverlight is pretty cool. I had a chance to watch an HD video using it, and was amazed.
I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this earlier, but last year Netflix's CEO and founder DID join Microsoft's board. Hmm.... :)