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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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But they're not androgynous. Here's a handy guide:
http://www.videogamey.com/f/final-fantasy-vii-gender-guide-to/

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:20PM Crono141 said

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LOL. Nice.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:39PM Jerk Face said

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Ha ha.. Win!
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:22PM Crono141 said

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Things weren't always this way. It wasn't until nomura took over that the character design became so girly. Look at FF6 or FF5. The male characters, though attractive, are clearly male. Likewise with the females.

I actually blame Nomura for FF takings such a nose dive since FF7. In FF7 it was new and different. By the time FF10 came along, it was old and annoying.

Needs more zippers!

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:33PM Ballistic3188 said

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no FFVI, kefka was the first of the bunch. He wore make up and had flowing robes and a evil witch laugh. I was confused as they kept calling him prince when clearly it was a she
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:37PM Crono141 said

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kefka was actually a clown. Literally. Hence the makeup and crazy hats.

Oh, and he was evil, hence the evil laugh.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:57PM Ballistic3188 said

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http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/6-kefka-a.jpg
you telling me this is a male....
of course he had an evil laugh but a high pitched one which made it seem like a girl
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:05PM baby sea tuna said

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MWAHAHAHAHA!
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:07PM Crono141 said

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Yes. No breasts+square jawline = male.

Also, referencing Amano's concept art isn't really fair, as his style is also very wiry. If you look at the in game portraits and sprites, its much easier to tell.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:45PM dbvii said

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Um, Amano's art has ALWAYS been feminine. Every human form he draws looks like a chick. His art even made Cloud look like a pussy. I'm glad they started going with Nomura's designs.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:23PM sifer2400 said

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lol "who may or may not suffer from (false) memory loss" it seems as if that is so popular these days

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:24PM Zamzoph said

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Speaking of supporting casts and Final Fantasy, I found it to be very amusing how the other party members in FF7 (ie not Cloud and Tifa) seem to entirely lose their involvement with the story besides "just being there" once you get past their character-specific segment of the game.

Posted: Mar 29th 2008 11:49PM (Unverified) said

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Newsflash: This happens in every FF.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:26PM GewurztraminerX said

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What, no Edgar?

Needs more Engineers.

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:43PM Ballistic3188 said

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agreed needs edgar. the guy had a better story than sabin. he was the one witha the double headed coin and took kingship for sabin. also he use a giant drill and a chainsaw. most orginal weapon than the swords of extreme sizes or swords with a gun hilt.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:30PM (Unverified) said

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Final Fantasy VI > Final Fantasy VII

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:55PM McWeen said

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Agree. For many FF7 was their first rpg, hence it will always be the best in their eyes.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:58PM (Unverified) said

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You are right...

I love Magitek designs... even the box art is truly amazing:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Final_Fantasy_VI_Japanese_box.png
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:03PM GewurztraminerX said

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The "first RPG" aspect has a lot to do with it. My favorite FF's are VI,VII,VIII,IX, and X, in that order.
I never played IV, so I can hardly rank it. And I have yet to play XII, largely in part due to my fear of real time.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:19PM Otimus said

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FFX is the only FFX I really love, and my first FF was FF on the NES :x
Though, I'd still put FF6 second after that, though I don't actually love it.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 5:01PM cesaria said

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Agreed. I love IX as well.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:41PM (Unverified) said

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Tetsuya Nomura is insane. That is the only word that can adequately describe him.

More belts for the belt god! Drown the world in chains, zippers, buckles, and all other sorts of amazingly useless accessories!

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:00PM Lava said

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Best NES Final Fantasy game = FFVI

Best PS1 Final Fantasy game = FF IX (Returning to the roots was a wise decision =)

Best PS2 Final Fantasy game = FF XII

Best Final Fantasy game = I can't tell between FF VI and FF IX Both were the best ones in story =(

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:04PM (Unverified) said

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Definitely VI... but it was an SNES game, not NES... or it was a typo? =p
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:45PM (Unverified) said

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Im in ur city

beatin up ur summonz

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:46PM DrMcn1nja said

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@Fernando - WORD.

Also, RedXIII is not a cat. But he is serious.

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 1:50PM baby sea tuna said

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Yeah, I thought that thing was a dog. Thanks for remembering his given name for me. I remember my old roommate naming him Steve for some reason.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:09PM Crono141 said

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He's not really a dog either. He's like this cat/dog/freak hybrid.

Nanaki is his true name.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:49PM GewurztraminerX said

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See, and I always thought he was just a talking wolf. You know, since at one point, he howls at the moon.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:21PM Lava said

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Oh God ! That was a typo!

and NO and YES! Both have a great story, but Final Fantasy IX has great storyline in addition to that it was very nostalgic and it was like a tribute for all great time I spent in SNES Final Fantasies. It was also refreshing and renewed my faith in Final Fantasy series after the amount of bullcrap I found in FF VIII (Worst Final Fantasy EVAR)

So may be FF IX was the best not FF VI, but I like FFVI characters a bit more.

Finally, I don't decide which is the best because of console. Sony or Nintendo whatever. I don't let my fanboysim decide on these things.

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:42PM Crono141 said

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Are we talking about the same FF9? I seem to recall that one meandering around the plot with no direction and then rushing the end which didn't make any sense.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 2:59PM baby sea tuna said

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I love FFIX. It's the last one I ever played for more than an hour or so.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:11PM GewurztraminerX said

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@ Crono: the thing about FF9 is that it can't be rushed. I tried to do that in my first play through just to finish it off and move on to something else and it completely ruined the game for me.

Years later, after having stepped away from it, I decided to replay it with no deadline and to simply experience the game, much like one would play Animal Crossing (if that makes any sense). End result; i like.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:04PM (Unverified) said

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I loved VIII. Maybe something within me resonated with all the teenage angst, I was 16 at the time, but damn I loved that game. Were there plot holes? Sure. Was the character development always even? No. Was it my favorite Final Fantasy besides VI? Yeah. Yeah, it was.

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:17PM GewurztraminerX said

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I enjoyed VIII much more when I discovered you could REFINE magic and were not restricted to DRAWING all of it (this was on my 3rd play through, mind you).

I also feel it had one of the better endings.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:24PM Otimus said

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FF1-3: Too old to be any good
FF4: Decent enough for it's time, not much else.
FF5: No good
FF6: Great effort for the time, second half ruined thanks to non-linearity
FF7: Terrible plot, terrible characters
FF8: Mediocre plot, mediocre characters
FF9: Terrible plot, shallow characters
FF10: Above average characters, great plot
FF11: No
FF12: Mediocre plot, Terrible characters


Common FF problems: Shallow characters.
Thing FF never does right: Love. It either happens for no reason, or the reason is piss poor.
They practically all have a terrible narrative, outside of FFX, also.

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:34PM Crono141 said

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I'm sorry, but the characters in FF10 were the worst.

Why can't square make a game with likable characters anymore? I loved all the characters in Chrono Trigger, secret of mana. Hell, even Secret of Evermore.

FF games haven't had likable characters since well before FF7.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:37PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know, I think that IV and VI had the best characters and plot, not to mention dialogue. The whole "You spoony bard!" line is as Shakespearean as video games get.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:54PM Otimus said

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I don't give two craps if characters are likable. It's how they're written, and where they go, how they go, and why they do what they do is important.
In that regard, the entire FF series has poor characters, for the most part.

If you want good characters, you have to look toward The Lunar series, Grandia series, Xeno-series, and such and such.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 3:54PM GewurztraminerX said

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"FF6: Great effort for the time, second half ruined thanks to non-linearity"

Second half ruined due to non-linearity? But that's what made it so great! You decide what to do, not the game (and not in an overly SaGa-type way *shivers*). Alas, this explains why you enjoyed X and I, mostly, did not. X was way too linear for my taste.

Also, the series has some good characters. Personal favorites:
FF6 - Edgar (chainsaw FTW)
FF7 - Cid (gotta love angry astronauts)
FF8 - Irvine (initially creepy, but hey, shotguns!)
FF9 -
FFX - Auron.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 4:48PM Crono141 said

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Except how they're written and where they go doesn't mean 2 shits if I don't give a damn about them to begin with. Its hard to feel sad when Aeris dies if you think she's a bitch trying to butt in on Tifa's action (my wife's view, not mine). Its hard to feel the emotion in Tidus and Yuna's relationship when he has the mentality of a 12 year old and only gets through his problems by being hopelessly ignorant of his surroundings.

Tidus and the Vaan are the best examples. Angsty morons who don't know shit about shit and don't get any better/smarter as the game progresses. Not sympathetic at all.

Crapper characters make for crappy character driven RPGs. Linearity of FF10 sucked too. You could get through that game by holding forward and pressing circle.

Can you tell that I hate ff10.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 4:56PM (Unverified) said

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"If you want good characters, you have to look toward The Lunar series, Grandia series, Xeno-series, and such and such."

Ahhhh ha ha! You almost had me with you bullshit list! If you hadn't posted this part I'd never have called your troll.

7/10, since you came so close.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 8:35PM Otimus said

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"Ahhhh ha ha! You almost had me with you bullshit list! If you hadn't posted this part I'd never have called your troll."

But those games DO have awesome characters... and I DO genuinely love FFX.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2008 11:52PM (Unverified) said

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God, anyone who likes FFX doesn't deserve to have an opinion.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 4:05PM Seroth said

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Hell yeah @ mentioning the best FF character ever: BARRET. Big black man with a gun for an arm. How is that not manly and badass?

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 5:10PM GewurztraminerX said

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Did anybody else ever see Dyne as resembling Stallone? Or was that just me?
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Posted: Mar 28th 2008 4:23PM (Unverified) said

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Put Boko, Mog, Sabin, Red and Barret, but you can easily leave the rest out. Most of the females and kid cast are annoying at best.

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 4:50PM (Unverified) said

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what! no caith sith!?!?!

blasphemers

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 4:52PM (Unverified) said

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and yes, red is a wolf dumbasses

Posted: Mar 28th 2008 5:05PM cesaria said

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Totally guessed the top two. I would have put Kain at number one though, and bumped Rydia further up the list. Yes, I love FFIV. Why don't chicks cosplay as Rydia? When she's older, of course.
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