MGS4 pre-order DVDs shipping with MGO beta keys, beta to begin April 21

Am I to assume this is a sarcastic comment?
How is a game that does not even fit on a 50GB BD disc going to squeeze onto 7.5GB DVD9?

Easy. Compression.

The PS3's games can easily be compressed to DVD9 discs. The reason the game is so big is because of the raw textures.

Also, if I am reading his post correctly (highly doubt that I'm not) he's implying that there was a 360 tag in the tags section at the bottom of the article.

Heh, I actually find the texture work on MGS4 to be rather disappointing. I know that doesn't have much to do with the texture size, but i find it somewhat ironic.

And i doubt there compressing the audio either, which is a huge chunk.

Zeus, the raw textures and the 7.1 channel lossless audio.

Blu-ray's 50GB space definitely cut development time and cost for the producers as they did not have to worry about using compression plus us gamers get the best texture and audio quality.

also it would not be possible to port MGS4 on 360 if the game has backtracking.

Here we go... Fanboys; There is NO REAL clarification as to HOW LARGE MGS4 is. We only have the word of developers, who more often than not, do not actually have to deal with compression or the printing process for game discs. Hence, they feed back information which is months if not years old.
MGS4 MAY go over DVD9 capacities even with compression, however downgrading assets, removal of obsolete files (or 'leftovers') will help bring down the size required. The game should fit onto DVD9 discs one way or another. It's stupidity to make a game 20GB big, especially when a game like Devil May Cry 4 requires a 6GB install on the PS3 to help curve LOADING TIMES. The bigger the files that have to be loaded, the longer the loading times.
DVD9 discs are 8.5GB big... Not 7.xGB big, hence the DVD*9* (I take it you can round). Also, there's no problem with having multipul discs. Metal Gear Solid 1 did it and I don't see any MGS fans complaining about that.

Now, move along. Nothing to see here.

@ssuk

Come correct son....u r incorrect.

As you should know the maximum XBox360 DVD size is fixed.
You should be familiar with a parameter: LayerBreak=1913760
Ok, LayerBreak is the sector number where the head move from layer 0 to layer 1 and start writing backward (Opposite Track Path).
You should know also that a DVD sector is 2048 bytes so each layer holds up to 3919380480 bytes, or 7838760960 bytes total (7475,625 MB).
Well, now you've to subtract the first track size (you know, the one with the "dancing circles" in DVD Video format) twice (because that's unused on layer 1 too).
What you get back (minus something for XDVD structure, minus something for security placehold, if they still exist on XBox360) is the actual maximum DVD size.
You know, it's more like 7,05 Gb than 8,58 Gb.

lool @ ssuk u got owned bad by Killjebus

Guys, let's save ourselves some time here.

Just copy and paste all the bullshit comments from developers and Sony fanboys prior to PS3 launch that claimed that Resistance: Fall of Man could never, ever fit on a DVD-9.

Once the game was released, the kids got real quite all of a sudden.

You all are such typical fanboys. Just wait till the real proper game to be released. Fact is if you want to play MGS4 in June, then go buy a PS3. Don't waste our time if you can't afford one.

"Blu-ray's 50GB space definitely cut development time and cost for the producers as they did not have to worry about using compression plus us gamers get the best texture and audio quality."


I call BS dickweed.

That would take one guy one day to compress it.

Just because MGS (or any game for that matter) does not need BluRay, doesn't mean you need to go around making excuses, ALL of us know MGS could go to the 360 and most believe it will. You guys need to stop being babies and be glad that you get to play another MGS.

One time, I had to change a CD while playing Final Fantasy 7. I tripped over my dog, killing it... I landed on my little sister, killing her... And cracked my head open on the entertainment center, putting me into a comma...

I just woke from my comma and will be buying a PS3 and MGS4 just so this will never... NEVER... happen to me again.

True story.

You are a vile excuse for a human being. I hope you have trouble sleeping in your bed made of baby seals and orphans. At least your the money you make as a sony head gives you some comfort...evil Krazy K.

Dude,
Billy Bob Thorton
Swingblade
Jackass

@Killjebus

FYI its sling Blade... CLassic movie BTW... MMM HMMM It aint got no gas in it.. MMM

Yes yes, the sharp object that Mmnmm Hmmm talcs about mnnnn hmmmm.
I like dem french fried pataters...ummmm hmmmml, i reckon.

and the Retard of the Day award goes to...congrats Mills and Boom!

Actually, Colinbell, people did gripe about the high price of PS2 thanks to DVD at launch and how it wasn't needed. Especially compared to the "by then" $149 Dreamcast. For a while, the internet gag was "What's the most popular PS2 launch game? The Matrix."

Also, Uncharted doesn't install on the PS3... just thought I would point that out.

Stealth based multiplayer? Your kidding, the best multiplayer of all time is stealth based.

Yep I'm talking about Splinter Cell.

/Splinter Cell Fanboy


Kinda off topic, I picked up the Essential Metal Gear Solid pack yesterday (MGS 1,2, and 3)

It's really awesome, I do wish it had Twin Snakes though (I do have it already so that's not a problem:D)

If this game did fit on DVD-9 it would most likely take 4-5 discs like Blue Dragon (3 disc) and Lost Odyssey (5 disc)... I have both of those games and its not a big deal to switch the discs because they are extremely linear games without any backtracking in them.. If MGS 4 had no backtracking et all then it would not be a huge deal to swap out the discs but in all honesty 1 disc is obviously better than 3-5 for a single game... When you consider the scope of this last MGS game and the amount of cut scenes I do not think it would fit on a DVD-9 [in its current state] without some degradation of data & content.... Thats not hating its the truth... If my opinion and the 50 Gb size of the game is actually correct.... The reason we have different systems is because of great exclusive titles and extra features... If I wanted one single machine to play anything I would build or buy a bad ass gaming PC not consoles.... I pretty much have the 360 to play my sports games & 360 exclusives.... I have my Wii only for exclusive titles and for the kids and wife honestly... I use the PS3 for exclusives and the majority of multi-platform titles that do not have any major differences (i.e. Burnout Paradise, Orange Box, COD 4 & Assassins Creed).... If Microsoft did not fix my 6 RRODs for free I would have moved on from the console all together by now. If it keeps breaking I will continue to play games so long as Microsoft fixes it for free.... However, whenever the next Microsoft console is released (720?) I will not buy a launch console and wait and see if there are more stability and hardware issues/errors...

For me I rate my enjoyment, games, features and stability in the following order... Favorite consoles....

Stability
1. PS3
2. Wii
3. 360

Games (Exclusives Only As Of Today)
1.360
2.PS3
3.Wii


Features
1.PS3
2.360
3.Wii

Overall Enjoyment
1.PS3
2.360
3.Wii


This does not take into account unreleased titles and is just meant to be my opinion not console bashing et all... I have had all 3 since their launches and I currently have more PS3 games than any other systems because it is by far the best gaming rig in my opinion.... When you consider everything else it does it is truly amazing people bitch about paying for it.... I guess certain people ONLY want to play games and nothing else... Even for me I prefer the PS3 controller for everything except maybe shooters and I am not a huge shooter fan.... I will say Battlefield Bad Company Beta is off the fucking chain on the 360.. Buttery smooth graphics, controls and frame rate as well as weapons and vehicles... Thats just 1 online multiplayer mode as well!!!

But John McPoop votes games down because of how they look, so TBH I won't bother reading what he has to say because that sort of mentality warrants disregard.

Bu bu but videogames need lots of bloom to be good!


Seriously, anyone that dismisses games like Mario, R&C, Zack and Wiki, and Okami as being "Kiddie" and not worth your time really needs to stop playing games.

*Ahem John *Ahem

Especially when "Poop" is in your name... come on...