Recently Xbox Live Arcade has shown considerable potential as a home for shoot 'em ups, from the Forgotten Worlds-channeling Omega Five to monochrome shooter Ikaruga's looming release. However, to hear talk from 5pb, the devs charged with bringing Cave's nefarious DoDonPachi series as well as its latest shooter Ketsui to XBLA's digital frontier, the platform still has a few nagging hang ups keeping it from becoming a beacon for shmups.
Echoing N+ developer Metanet's recent comments concerning what does and does not make it to the service, 5pb spoke out about similar frustrations in the latest issue of Famitsu, revealing that both of its ports of DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou Black Label X and Ketsui X had been summarily rejected for release over XBLA, with Microsoft claiming that it's "going to cut down on faithful arcade ports." Only faithful ones?
We agree that there is certainly a glut of arcade nonsense on XBLA, but this is equivalent to throwing the baby out with the bathwater. 5pb and Cave are reportedly now working to bring both games to market through traditional retail channels in a defiant effort to show Microsoft "that their decision was wrong." Now all we need is a publisher with an eye for niche Japanese releases to pick the games up for release outside of Japan. Altus, are you listening?
[Via Xbox 360 Fanboy]
Reader Comments (76)
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:07PM chantastic said
So weak. So effing weak. Dodonpachi is one of the best shooters *EVER*, and DOJ deserves a wider release than the PS2 Japan-only it has gotten so far.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:33PM (Unverified) said
of course, Microsoft denied it.
THEY WANT MOAR FPS.
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THEY WANT MOAR FPS.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:21PM (Unverified) said
Its a shame Microsoft isn't using Xbox Live Arcade to its full potential. In this sense, the PlayStation Store is truly showing a vast array of amazing games.
It is the time now where more developers will put thier games on the PSN due to the crap on XBLA.
Honestly which idiot at Microsoft didn't let this title on XBLA but the god damn Toyota games on?
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It is the time now where more developers will put thier games on the PSN due to the crap on XBLA.
Honestly which idiot at Microsoft didn't let this title on XBLA but the god damn Toyota games on?
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:40PM (Unverified) said
I just went over all of your previous comments. Wow do you seem like a Sony plant. Please don't give me any of this my son's gamertag is... BS.
"the PlayStation Store is truly showing a vast array of amazing games" Are you kidding me?! I bought flow - played it once. I bought Blast Factor - played it once. I bought Piyotama - played it once. The only game I have continued to play from their vast array of amazing games is Everyday Shooter. I guess maybe you were talking about Super Rub a Dub or Pixel Junk Racers?!
How can you compare that to a service that has stuff like Castlevania SOTN, Rez HD, Puzzle Quest, Geometry Wars, Bomberman, PacMAn CE, Poker Smash, etc?
I have no doubt PSN will get better over time, but you are way out of line.
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"the PlayStation Store is truly showing a vast array of amazing games" Are you kidding me?! I bought flow - played it once. I bought Blast Factor - played it once. I bought Piyotama - played it once. The only game I have continued to play from their vast array of amazing games is Everyday Shooter. I guess maybe you were talking about Super Rub a Dub or Pixel Junk Racers?!
How can you compare that to a service that has stuff like Castlevania SOTN, Rez HD, Puzzle Quest, Geometry Wars, Bomberman, PacMAn CE, Poker Smash, etc?
I have no doubt PSN will get better over time, but you are way out of line.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:47PM (Unverified) said
@Bloo
Okay, but that is my gamertag... give me yours and i will accept your friend request and send you a message even showing you that I do in fact have XBL.
You obviously haven't picked very good games.
Let me give you a list on games you might be interested in:
Calling All Cars
Echochrome
GT 5 Prolouge
Warhawk
Gran Turismo HD
Mortal Kombat 2
Pain
PixelJunk Monsters
Socom Confrontation
Super Stardust HD
Tekken 5: DR
Wipeout HD
and those are only some of the games...
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Okay, but that is my gamertag... give me yours and i will accept your friend request and send you a message even showing you that I do in fact have XBL.
You obviously haven't picked very good games.
Let me give you a list on games you might be interested in:
Calling All Cars
Echochrome
GT 5 Prolouge
Warhawk
Gran Turismo HD
Mortal Kombat 2
Pain
PixelJunk Monsters
Socom Confrontation
Super Stardust HD
Tekken 5: DR
Wipeout HD
and those are only some of the games...
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:23PM (Unverified) said
I hope the 360 version is region free. If not, then maybe they will also consider a PS3 version, which will make this a no brainer.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:32PM (Unverified) said
Off Topic:
http://kotaku.com/373721/kotaku-named-best-worldwide-resource-for-video-games-in-denver
Tssssssss... Joystiq, we need more publicity... we are better than them =p
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http://kotaku.com/373721/kotaku-named-best-worldwide-resource-for-video-games-in-denver
Tssssssss... Joystiq, we need more publicity... we are better than them =p
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:34PM SheppyReturns said
hate to say it, but Kotaku covers the Japan scene much better. Of course most of that coverage is in H games and Akihabara cosplay fests... so maybe having the lesser coverage is better.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:37PM (Unverified) said
God am I the only one who remembers that Kotaku started a "war" with Joystiq?
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:44PM (Unverified) said
I'm not much of a fan of their pee-stained yellow color scheme. It find it to be rough on the eyes.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:58PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
At least their comments allow for HTML...
And trolls don't last so long there, too.
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And trolls don't last so long there, too.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:04PM (Unverified) said
http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/kotaku-unlocks-the-bonus-round-part-i-281131.php
Read the comments... a lot of traitors =(
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Read the comments... a lot of traitors =(
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:12PM hvnlysoldr said
Wii is the true home of shoot-em-ups. Especially considering TG-16's library.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:14PM hvnlysoldr said
Oops I got distracted by Mythbusters marathon. That was supposed to be a separate post.
Since they ban people so much it just invites more trash. I can't believe they banned me for night vision eye patching pirates. I mean supposedly the head editor is a pirate. Must have seen I'm a ninja.
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Since they ban people so much it just invites more trash. I can't believe they banned me for night vision eye patching pirates. I mean supposedly the head editor is a pirate. Must have seen I'm a ninja.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:18PM Nigeria said
Like Wong said, Kotaku cover Japan better.
But, they do seem to toot their own horn a bit. Plus, I get the impression they think they're actually journalists. All this while ignoring the golden rules of journalism such as integrity. (that sonic article for example)
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But, they do seem to toot their own horn a bit. Plus, I get the impression they think they're actually journalists. All this while ignoring the golden rules of journalism such as integrity. (that sonic article for example)
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:19PM (Unverified) said
Here is the link from Rubang B post on VGChartz...
http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=12495
I miss that guy... he was an awesome commenter. And he left Joystiq all because stupid Vladimir Cole.
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http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=12495
I miss that guy... he was an awesome commenter. And he left Joystiq all because stupid Vladimir Cole.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:27PM (Unverified) said
What a fucking idiot was Vladimir Cole:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/14/an-honest-question-wouldnt-you-rather-companies-subsidize-your/
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/15/penny-arcade-responds-to-our-hideous-editorial-misses-the-poi/
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http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/14/an-honest-question-wouldnt-you-rather-companies-subsidize-your/
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/15/penny-arcade-responds-to-our-hideous-editorial-misses-the-poi/
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:35PM Dr Stabbingworth said
lol at the Vladimir hate
i still miss epobirs...
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i still miss epobirs...
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 7:10PM samfish said
"And trolls don't last so long there, too."
This is ultimately why I kinda like Kotaku more. I like Joystiq because it's more lively and fun and the community seems more tight knit together (Kotaku's is more personal, though), but I know that there's a real risk that if Joystiq were to adopt Kotaku's banning policies it would be less lively.
I don't mind the rampant fanboyism, so much as the hate it unleashes and doesn't get reigned in ever.
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This is ultimately why I kinda like Kotaku more. I like Joystiq because it's more lively and fun and the community seems more tight knit together (Kotaku's is more personal, though), but I know that there's a real risk that if Joystiq were to adopt Kotaku's banning policies it would be less lively.
I don't mind the rampant fanboyism, so much as the hate it unleashes and doesn't get reigned in ever.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 8:13PM (Unverified) said
Way to bring up the past with old Vladimir Cole there Fernando! Haha. I remember back in those days with old Rubang on here.
I kinda miss them honestly, though I wasn't as active of a member as I am now. And while I'm generally a joystiquers, I will on occasion jump over to kotaku see what's going on there. But I've never been a dtoid fan..evar...
Later gents
oh and samfish, I like the daisy love!
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I kinda miss them honestly, though I wasn't as active of a member as I am now. And while I'm generally a joystiquers, I will on occasion jump over to kotaku see what's going on there. But I've never been a dtoid fan..evar...
Later gents
oh and samfish, I like the daisy love!
Posted: Mar 31st 2008 6:31AM (Unverified) said
Fernando, I agree that Joystiq is nigh on the best website on the whole damned webernet.
But the speed and ease at which you can pull up old threads is, well, worrying. We need to talk about that.
As leader of the NDF - Joystiq Branch I hereby revoke Rubang's NDF membership AND heart ring.
I also support the Cole hate (he was a doosh) and wish Epobirs would return. He had so many pretty pretty stars.
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But the speed and ease at which you can pull up old threads is, well, worrying. We need to talk about that.
As leader of the NDF - Joystiq Branch I hereby revoke Rubang's NDF membership AND heart ring.
I also support the Cole hate (he was a doosh) and wish Epobirs would return. He had so many pretty pretty stars.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:50PM (Unverified) said
It's really sad that shmups are being released on XBLA, they should be released on a japanese console. I would never buy a Microsoft console so if it gets exclusive games that's a bad thing for me.
I can understand that Microsoft is paying a lot of money for shmups and jRPG exclusives to try to get the console to sell in Japan, but enough already.
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I can understand that Microsoft is paying a lot of money for shmups and jRPG exclusives to try to get the console to sell in Japan, but enough already.
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:58PM (Unverified) said
I'm pretty sure 360 is dead in Japan and Microsoft has given up... They've lost that war.
Wii will continue to win in Japan... That is until Final Fantasy XIII comes out!
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Wii will continue to win in Japan... That is until Final Fantasy XIII comes out!
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 1:57PM (Unverified) said
@sheppy,
Once again, you miscomprehend one of my posts and dare to call it a list post. Just do me a favor and go draw another Liger (I know, I know, it's like only one of the coolest animals ever) while making some more cool "Games". To be honest, I used to draw Ligers and make games too. Only thing is, I was making games on a Atari 130XE. Oh yeah, and I was thirteen not mid twenties...
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Once again, you miscomprehend one of my posts and dare to call it a list post. Just do me a favor and go draw another Liger (I know, I know, it's like only one of the coolest animals ever) while making some more cool "Games". To be honest, I used to draw Ligers and make games too. Only thing is, I was making games on a Atari 130XE. Oh yeah, and I was thirteen not mid twenties...
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:00PM (Unverified) said
I'm not sheppy? I don't understand your post to be honest.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:04PM (Unverified) said
Also:
"Once again, you miscomprehend one of my posts and dare to call it a list post"
"Castlevania SOTN, Rez HD, Puzzle Quest, Geometry Wars, Bomberman, PacMAn CE, Poker Smash, etc?"
wat?
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"Once again, you miscomprehend one of my posts and dare to call it a list post"
"Castlevania SOTN, Rez HD, Puzzle Quest, Geometry Wars, Bomberman, PacMAn CE, Poker Smash, etc?"
wat?
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:06PM (Unverified) said
You are right. You are not sheppy. Sheppy knows who sheppy is. Thanks for responding anyway. Twice.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:07PM SheppyReturns said
It was a list post... I called it a list post. List posts suck. You suck. Plus, Napoleon Dynamite references? The hell are you thinking? All the cool kids quit with those long ago... they are now currently swimming about WWE taunts and Hallmark cards.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:58PM SheppyReturns said
I'd prefer Exo=Squad references.... just because I want to quote Blonkski most days... but yelling at NeoSapian Bastards only seems to work in a cartoon, so instead I yell at old ladies walking in the mall for their exercise...
"You'll never get away with this!"
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"You'll never get away with this!"
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:05PM 007craft said
I somewhat agree with microsofts decision. we dont need more crappy arcade shooters. I cant believe any1 is actually looking forward to palying ikaruga. Like havent you played that game enough? ITs been ported 1000 times before.
Although microsoft should just allow the game anyway, and stop with this 1 or 2 games released a wednesday nonsense. If there are alot of games, then release them. 7 or 8 games a wednesday if need be.
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Although microsoft should just allow the game anyway, and stop with this 1 or 2 games released a wednesday nonsense. If there are alot of games, then release them. 7 or 8 games a wednesday if need be.
Posted: Mar 31st 2008 2:03AM cartman1uy said
um yeah. so, I've played Ikaruga, but it can be pretty hard to find at retail, even in used game stores. I like it, but don't really want to pay $40 for a USED copy. Same thing for Rez HD; played it, loved it, even bought it on ebay (twice) because I enjoyed it so much (also first copy = stolen). Maybe you like to play a game once, and then never again, but some people enjoy replaying the game and/or having a backup copy.
so, relax!
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so, relax!
Posted: Mar 30th 2008 2:15PM Mr Khan said
And THIS is what happens when your service enforces some sort of "quality control" on incoming content
It's not like the fanboys run these corporations, often quality control means games like Toyota Yaris get through, while these get denied. Quality control is totally different to them than it is to us
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It's not like the fanboys run these corporations, often quality control means games like Toyota Yaris get through, while these get denied. Quality control is totally different to them than it is to us
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