Sony exec. downplays Xbox 360 GTA IV DLC
by Alexander Sliwinski 
{ Mar 31st 2008 at 2:00PM }
Steinberg surmises that not a huge percentage of customers are going to jump for the downloadable content when GTA IV is so huge and they're still playing through the core game. He also contends that consumers who are still fence sitting about purchasing a console will want a PS3 after noticing that GTA IV, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue are all on PS3.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Vidikron (FU) @ Mar 31st 2008 2:05PM
Well, I'm not sure what you else you would really expect them to say about it.
That said, as an owner of both systems, I'm still getting the 360 version primarily because of the DLC. Sorry Sony!
Vidikron (FU) @ Mar 31st 2008 2:07PM
*what else you
I managed to get an extra "you" in there.
Knight Marquise @ Mar 31st 2008 2:27PM
Actually I plan on purchasing the DLC as well. Heck, I've been playing San Andreas to prime myself for GTA IV.
And for the people that state exclusives don't sell consoles: I would have purchased a PS3 for this game, if it was only available on a playstation. As it stands now, I'll be picking up a PS3 when FF ships.
Hala Madrid!!! SSBB Code:3866-7729-0830 @ Mar 31st 2008 3:19PM
Yeah I own both systems and a Wii but I'll be getting this game for the 360 just because of the DLC,achievements and multiplayer over Xboxlive
As For the PS3 I'll just wait for Gran Turismo 5
Cesaria (SSBB: 3136-6466-5083) @ Mar 31st 2008 4:19PM
That's amusing how you said "i own both systems and a wii" as if it's not cool enough to be part of the group. I'm not bitching, i just found it funny. :P
Bleu @ Mar 31st 2008 4:23PM
I have both consoles as well and a Wii but I will be getting this for ps3 thaaaaank you. I believe that the game will be more comfortable fee; for the ps3 and better for it. I could care less for DLC by the time it comes out I wont be on GTA anymore I will be on LA Noire or another game, I just hope M$ dont charge an arm and a leg for this precious DLC.
Al @ Mar 31st 2008 4:34PM
I'll rent the game and play through and then wait for the PC version before I finally buy it. I played one of the multiplayer mods for san andreas that was fun. Other than that I just enjoy the performance that a pc brings compared to a console. I still use the 360 controller on the pc for the game.
ThornedVenom (Harley Quinn Defense Force) @ Apr 1st 2008 1:54AM
Between the 360 and PS3 versions, I'd actually play the PS3 one because online play is free.
But I'd be waiting for PC. ;)
Abuzar @ Apr 1st 2008 2:19AM
A lot of us pay for Xbox live anyway, so might as well get the 360 version with the better online.
Now if you don't have XBL, the PS3 version might be something to look at. Although, if you can afford a PS3 and a 360, then I'm sure you can afford 3 dollars a month.
BananaBoat @ Apr 1st 2008 3:06AM
How are you getting XBL for 3 dollars a month? I got a year card for 60, so that's 5 dollars a month (I know I'm splitting hairs here). 3 would be insane.
Back on topic though, I'm absolutely getting this game for the 360. Not only for the DLC, but because I'm not giving sony 60 dollars for a rumble controller that should have come with my 600 dollar console anyway, so that I can fully enjoy the game. Games that aren't FPS's or TPS's are fine without rumble, but I absolutely need rumble for mah FPS's and TPS's.
Sony is just mad that they didn't think to secure the rights for exclusive DLC first. natch
Vidikron (FU) @ Apr 1st 2008 2:27PM
$3 a month isn't really that insanse. I probably just means he managed to get one of the 12+1 cards (13 months) for around $40. I've seen deals like that before.
el serpiente @ Mar 31st 2008 2:07PM
I'm getting it for PS3 because of it's exclusive non-red-ring-of-doom feature. What's the point of buying a game if you can't even play it?
PojoMofo @ Mar 31st 2008 2:09PM
agreed.
Playing on a console that is quiet and wont crap out on me> a console that could red ring at any time that sounds like a lawnmower
PojoMofo @ Mar 31st 2008 2:09PM
agreed.
Playing on a console that is quiet and wont crap out on me> a console that could red ring at any time that sounds like a lawnmower
ViagraFiend @ Mar 31st 2008 2:19PM
I dont buy DLC. I have never got something off XBLM or the PSN that I felt glad that I bought.
So yeah, PS3 version for me because of RROD.
Lone Starr @ Mar 31st 2008 2:23PM
Pojo,
Your comment was bad enough the first time you posted it.
Roofie @ Mar 31st 2008 3:06PM
As though your PS3s couldn't crap out on you guys? No machine is completely impervious to harm... well, except for the Gamecube.
why not the LS2/LS7? @ Mar 31st 2008 3:58PM
My Gamecube crapped on me with "dirty disc errors".
Trust me, yes, your PS3 is FAR less likely to crap out on you than your 360. Have you been asleep? You think MS wrote down $1B for repairs just for giggles?
I'll be buying GTA IV on PS3 (even though I also own a 360). But I expect most of my friends will buy it for 360 instead.
deaftly @ Mar 31st 2008 4:18PM
My little purple lunch box stopped reading disc's after about 6 months.
Leobebes @ Mar 31st 2008 4:30PM
Funny thing, I have been playing my Elite since its launch and it has even frozen on me, while my Wii has all this static shit all over it whenever I use the component cables. So I guess I must be in the minority here, oh wait a minute I haven't heard of any RROD's lately from my 68 friends on XBOX live so maybe I should call Guiness and ask them to look into my friend's list to see this anomaly.
Quit being an ass and spreading your paranoia, we get it you like the PS3 and all you have as ammunition is the RROD.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 31st 2008 4:38PM
That static shit is a hardware failure caused by WiiConnect24 overheating the console while it's active cooling is off.
Send it in for a repair. Or sell it and let some other bastard send it in for a repair.
hotnutz @ Mar 31st 2008 5:27PM
>>all you have as ammunition is the RROD.
Pray tell what else do you need when you have a nuke?
David @ Apr 3rd 2008 10:25PM
RROD? that's so 2006 and 2007.
As far as Sony's comments are concerned?
Metal Gear Solid 4: Splinter Cell always had better gameplay (but not true for cinematics and story), and Splinter Cell Conviction is available for the 360 exclusively
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: Sorry, i'm not paying 40$ for a demo.
Bennyishere @ Mar 31st 2008 2:07PM
Naughty Sony Exec, go to your corner!
Ringo @ Mar 31st 2008 2:21PM
ditto, has this just been bumped?
chad3405 @ Mar 31st 2008 2:09PM
I have both systems and i'm buying it for the 360 because of the downloadable content.
Ihar `Philips` Filipau @ Mar 31st 2008 4:22PM
MSFT should start special labeling for games supporting DLC - so that any mom can see that game can be extended.
From point of view marketing this is sure shot: any consumer would choose something what can be extended in future - over something rigid. Especially for parents buying games for their kids this is a god send: they can buy one game as if they bought two.
Most people here would be my witnesses: we all stick to particular genres and good games in the genres get updated relatively rarely (at least it always feels that way). All we need is something new introduced into the same game to make the 100th replay more enjoyable.
negativezero @ Mar 31st 2008 2:16PM
360 version all the way.
I'll take my chances with red rings and have a sh!t load of fun games to play rather than sit on my @ss and watch blu ray movies.
I may buy a ps3 in the future but they will need more games that I want to own before that happens. There is only one exclusive game that I want on ps3, and blu ray don't do it for me.
R.I.P HD-DVD
John McPoop @ Mar 31st 2008 3:27PM
@negativezero
Well I suppose it's all relative to the end user. I own both consoles and I will probably purchase it for the PS3 so I can install segments of the game to my HDD and avoid loading times and improve draw distance.
As far as games go well most games are available for both platforms. The only games you can't get on the PS3 are the 360 exclusives like Frontlines, Gears,Lost Odyssey, blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Mass Effect, Forza, PGR, Halo, Crackdown and of course many others. However, all multiplatform titles like Assassins Creed, Call Of Duty 4, SKATE,Rainbow 6 vegas 2, Burnout Paradise, Orange Box and whatever else you like thats multiplatform. Sony also has some great exclusives like Hot Shots golf Out Of Bounds, MLB 08 the Show, Resistance, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Time Crisis, Lair, Motorstorm, Sigma, Unreal Tournament 3 and Gran turismo Prologue. I happen to like Lair and Time Crisis but I will admit they are not great games like the others.
I am not going to argue taste or who likes what but there are certainly plenty of games on both consoles (exclusives and multiplatform) for anyone to enjoy. I think the lack of games argument really applies more to the Wii because the majority of multiplatform games are not released on the console et all.
Both the 360 and PS3 have great exclusives slated for an 2008 release. I think the PS3 has better exclusives but again thats a preference thing and opinion based so there is no need for a list war containing the usual suspects.
Like many other people I have had bad luck with my 360 console and since launch have had a total of 6 RRODs (2 forced w/towel due to disc read errors and 4 natural RRODs). I know I have just had bad luck but I can honestly say it effects my buying decesion with multiplatform games. However, in most cases I will buy my sports games on the 360 because of Live and they tend to be better due to the 360 being the lead platform. I actually own more PS3 games than I do 360 games because of this problem. If my console had not been fixed for free each time I would have paid to have it fixed or purchased another one. In fact, I recently got my console back from repair and it would not play DVDs due to a regional issue!!??!?! Like it had a Japanese region code instead of an American. They wanted to charge me $100.00 to fix it until I asked to speak to the manager and explained the situation.
BrokenMonkey @ Mar 31st 2008 3:37PM
John,
Rockstar has said that there will be no loading times on either system, and there's no reason to think that the draw distance will be any different on either system. You will have to install it on the PS3 just to not have load times, where as with the 360 version you can just pop in the disc and you're good to go.
negativezero @ Mar 31st 2008 4:08PM
@Jon McPoop
I hear you man, it is all about the end user. I have been lucky and gotten no red rings with my 360's (upgraded from premium to Elite for the black and 120gb hd).
You mentioned Heavenly Sword and that is the only game id like to play in their line up. and from what I know its not a very long game.
I don't mind the load times on 360, lot s of people are just too impatient. As long as theres so slowing down or lagging while the game play is going on, its all good.
rv @ Mar 31st 2008 4:12PM
john, you make a good point about multiplatforms, but graphics on 360 are usually better with multiplatforms, and also live is a better service. That makes the 360 versions more desirable to me, at least.
John McPoop @ Mar 31st 2008 4:30PM
@rv
yeah in some cases you are correct. Madden was much better on the 360 as opposed to the 360. I think most of these issues are software based and not hardware issues. I have played Call Of Duty 4, Burnout Paradise and Assassins Creed on both platforms and the differences are really non existant to the naked eye. Maybe if you get super close to a rock there is a slight difference in texture but in general nothing that takes away from the experience.
@broken Monkey
If that's the case then the 360 certainly has an advantage because of the bonus content. However, I remember reading that due to the PS3's ability to install to the HDD it will improve loading and draw distance. I could be wrong and mis rembering. Its also important to remember the PS3 can also have DLC but it will not be the specific content that Microsoft has paid for. Honestly, unless the bonus content is extra cities in the game I would not buy extra missions anyway. I do not think it has been clear what the extra content actually is so far.
@negativezero
Yeah Heavenly Sword is an awesome game albeit a little short. Its about as long as say Bioshock and some other recent releases. The graphics are amazing but the best thing about the game is the voice acting, animations and story. I can't believe the game did not sell better than it did because it is truly an awesome title. Its basicly God Of War with a more personal story and more likable characters.
Its all about personal taste and I like games from all 3 platforms. As i said IMO the Wii is the only console that lacks games because most multiplatform games will not run on the hardware. My Wii only plays Nintendo first party titles and Capcom ports/games.
I would seriously reccomend Uncharted though as that game is some of the most fun I have had playing a game in a long time. The story plays out like an Indiana Jones flick and the graphics are out of this world.
Its all about taste in the end but in my mind the PS3 and 360 both have there fair share of games exclusives and multiplatform alike. ANother game I forgot to mention that is just super fun and intresting is Folklore. Not to mention all of the DLC it has had. Thats one thing I can say about Sony first party titles is they have had a lot of support int he DLC arena. And oh yeah if you like platformers Ratchet And Clank Future is as good as it gets!
Zeus.:God @ Mar 31st 2008 4:30PM
I would like to comment, Poop, on your statement about load times... The reason the PS3 caches data for a game is to avoid long load times (longer than the 360's load times for the same games even with the cache) due to the insanely slow disc drive (2x, I believe it is). That cache likely wouldn't help with the draw distance, either.
deaftly @ Mar 31st 2008 4:32PM
"Madden was much better on the 360 as opposed to the 360."
http://i28.tinypic.com/zskewo.jpg
negativezero @ Mar 31st 2008 4:57PM
Well I guess I have two games to check out now, HS and Uncharted, Thanks man.
Now if the PS3 would only drop in price.....
John McPoop @ Mar 31st 2008 5:11PM
@Deaftly
You got me!
I meant to say Madden is obviously better on the 360 than it is on the PS3...
Phizzy @ Apr 1st 2008 7:36PM
>>Zeus.:God
You can't just say a blu-ray drive is slow because its read mechanism is '2x', since you're probably thinking 2x means the same thing for DVDs and BDs.
2x DVD: 2.7MB/s
2x BD: 9MB/s
ChooChooCharlie (Brawl: 1504-5357-9285) @ Mar 31st 2008 2:17PM
"spent the GNP of several small Latin American countries to get that [content]."
AKA - pocket change to MS
Korova @ Apr 5th 2008 7:31AM
On behalf of several Latin American countries, I resent Senor Sony's comment.
But $50 mln is enough to develop a decent game, so I see where he was going with his empirialist statement.
No pasaran!
Co @ Mar 31st 2008 2:17PM
"consumers who are still fence sitting about purchasing a console"
Well, people that purchase a console like 360 are people that adopt early. Everyone that wants one has one. Their marketshare has primed. Playstation and Nintendo have both shown that they have longer legs (typically Playstation hardware and Nintendo software, although the Wii is setting precedents right now).
So anyone still sitting on the fence about a console is going to be tossing up a PS3 or Wii right now.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 31st 2008 3:02PM
My buddy just purchased his first 360 2 days ago.
you see, some expensive consoles have their sales pick up when they enter a lower price bracket, or in this case, found one on e-bay that fit in his budget.
360 will begin selling well again when the price drops.
xFenixKnightx @ Mar 31st 2008 3:09PM
Co
Your silly, so then that explains why PS2 is STILL selling right? WRONG! 360 isnt even close to hitting its stride here in the good ole US of A. Same goes for teh Wii.
When 360 hits that sweet spot in price, which will happen b4 PS3 does...sales will be a plenty.
Co @ Mar 31st 2008 3:10PM
I don't doubt that, but it will not see sales that will match or surpass last years numbers again. If it does, everyone can say "hahaha Co you were wrong", if it doesn't? Well I probably wont be able to locate you guys or you will just deny I ever said this.
Sony and Nintendo have what Microsoft doesn't: Market share in both the core audience (very small) and the mainstream/casual audience (very large). The "Playstation" brand and (thanks to Wii and DS) "Nintendo" brand ring much farther and wider than Microsoft's.
T H @ Mar 31st 2008 3:11PM
LOL... thank you Michael Pachter.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Mar 31st 2008 3:16PM
To the PS3 fanboys who keep saying PS3 will take off just like PS2 did:
PS3 comparisons: After 71 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 16.6 weeks (June 22, 2000), where PSP was at 47.2 weeks (October 31, 2005), where GCN was at 68.2 weeks (December 30, 2002), and where Wii was at 17.7 weeks (March 29, 2007).
The PS3 is selling more in line with the gamecube than the PS2.
Yeah yeah, off topic, I know. But I just wanted to share that before I forgot about it.
via http://tinyurl.com/34e9dk
Co @ Mar 31st 2008 3:17PM
lol @ T H ..... i know i know
xFenixKnightx @ Mar 31st 2008 3:30PM
Michael Pachter? Good one, but actually history should tell you that this is how it always happens. Consoles hit the $250 and under price and sales go through the roof. The Wii fortunatly started at that exact sweet spot =) MIright Co? Yea just when I thought you werent so bad. lulz
Co @ Mar 31st 2008 3:36PM
Fenix,
I actually thought T H was calling me Patcher... but after reading thru this comment thread that guy is on a mission after you man lol good luck!
xFenixKnightx @ Mar 31st 2008 3:50PM
He is isnt he! LMAO!
Pathetic.