EA scraps Madden '09 on PC

You think that matters to them?

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That was a POST PARADOX. Should've been a reply to Jeff. Now the humor is destroyed.

Actually PC is the MOST kiddie platform...

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7559&Itemid=2

People like you are also proof of this.

But mark my works, beginning of the end for PC gaming. You won't even be getting ports soon.

HORRAY A SMART PERSON HAS COME OUT!!!!
I agree really why buy a football game unless you dont have 20$ for a footballa nd enough friends for a real game with REAL PEOPLE

My next comment addresses what little point you were trying (I think?) to make.

And actually, as soon as developers stop making shitty PC-ports, I think part of the problem is solved. Lots of games don't work well on PC, and thus won't sell well on PC.

The PC market doesn't need to be flooded with a million games like the console market does. We tend to all buy the very good games, and play them for years. This is why Valve and Blizzard continue to do well on the PC market.

You can argue that the PC market is dying. I would argue that PC gamers are telling developers "we don't want your garbage". Only the best titles sell well on PC-- don't bother to release the rest.

And everyone forgets that in a few years, the PC that your mom buys for $300 will be a more powerful system than the ps3 and xbox 360.

In order to pirate it, wouldn't someone have to buy it and upload it to some torrent site first? So if both of the people who want it would pirate it....They can't because one of them would have to buy it.

with the XBOX 360 controller that problem of not working with M/Kb went out the window but really its just that like you said certain games arnt for the PC auidence

"And everyone forgets that in a few years, the PC that your mom buys for $300 will be a more powerful system than the ps3 and xbox 360."

That's such a strong argument! What can I do? Nooo!
Rather than playing good console games *now* as I have been for awhile, are you saying I should wait a few years to play some PC games *later*?

I think I'll take my more powerful console now actually.

Aw Jeff, we know PC gamers who post on gaming blogs are all in for quality, and not quantity. I know it. I am PC/console gamer myself, but rest assured we are not the majority just because we hear about us more often in sites like this one, and as much as we would like to see 'Big Publisher drops lil-PC' as a win, it is not. It just goes to further show how the PC gaming market is slowly dying.

jeez pc gamers sure are snotty and cranky nowadays. Then again I guess I would be too if I had to wait 2 years to play the best worthwhile current games.

Have fun with....WoW? Mass Effect? (ya know, the one we console gamers have been done with for a couple months now)

Have fun waiting a year plus for GTA 4 too. Oh don't worry about me I'll be having plenty of fun on the day it comes out. Feel free to come over and watch me play!

I'd argue that this years best games were: Unreal Tournament 3 and Sins of a Solar Empire.

The first of which came out earlier foR PC, and the latter which will never see the light of day on a console.

I'm not bitter. I was actually kind of joking around and insulting Madden. Everyone just gets testy when it comes to the PC versus consoles argument. All the fanboys can unite against a single foe!

I don't understand why people post lists of "exclusives" the consoles get in news posts like these. You got Mass Effect, I got The Witcher. You got Gears of War, I got Crysis.

News flash: Every platform has exclusives. I think we all know that...

lol ... thankfully EA purged the only title I desired from them ... NCAA Football on the Wii. GG fuckers ... GG.

Umm, the PC version of Madden was actually going for $40 at the time of release.

The pc gaming market has been 'dying' for about 15 years now, if headlines are any indication.. but as you can see, it's still here.

The PC market has always been a niche market. While your point is valid-- when big shots like EA abandon us, we are kind of screwed. But Crysis and Hellgate: London say "EA hasn't abandoned PC."

Developers just need to wise up. Some games just won't sell well on PC-- don't bother wasting your time releasing them!

PC is a VERY casual market (the sims), or a hardcore FPS/RPG/RTS/MMO market. There is not much in between.

I don't think I said 'dying.' I don't think it's dying, but it's narrowing in focus (not a bad thing!).

As for Crysis (or UT3, to look at a different publisher) the sales even there just aren't terribly encouraging. Look at a top-rate FPS like RFOM, Halo3, or CoD4 and its sales numbers and DLC viability on its respective service(s) and compare that to the big-name FPSes on the PC. I'm pretty comfortable in saying that CoD4 360 alone is handily outselling CoD4 PC.

Although some game types (RTS, maybe MMO) are just better with the PC interface a lot are not really provably improved/better, including and especially the FPS. Sure, I prefer FPS on a PC to FPS on a console for control, but with the right design and the understanding that controllers aren't as capable as mice in delivering precision input you can still walk out with a super high quality FPS that millions of people love. In contrast, the last non-niche FPS that garnered serious attention (and playtime) on the PC was probably either an older UT variant or RTCW. Most people just shrugged and moved on to the console world for their multi-player fix, largely because things "Just Work" there.

And if I'm a company and I get 90%+ of sales on consoles where a ton of the multiplayer experience is covered for me by the console, why would I bother implementing all the requisite multiplayer code on a PC too, at significant expense, when the revenue stream just isn't going to justify it.

Well, your point is valid: a game that sells 2 million on a console might sell only 500k on PC.

So then it comes down to: is the profit from 500k of sales worth the process of porting the game? Of course it is.

Moreover, that's also a result of piracy, which I won't deny. It IS a serious problem.

Well about Crysis, remember the numbers after the holidays stated it did sell a million plus copies. It was just a slow starter it seemed in the first few weeks of its release.

I am sure it is 1.5 mil at least by now.

As for Madden. Eh who cares. Sports games have never done great on PC, at least not for a long while. When Blizzard, or Valve, or stardock, or any one of 50 other developers say they are moving off PC then I will worry. But When it's EA Sports, that made one game 5 years ago for the PS2 and has been giving it a graphical update each year? Nah, no worries here. Pc gaming is pretty good right now as far as I can see.

That's a good point. The PC market is much stronger outside of the US.

Where nobody gives a fuck about football. Well, where everyone loves football-- just not the right kind =P