"Red Light of Death": The new Red Ring?

same

Yeah, me too... weird.

And me fourth apparently, because that was precisely the first thing I thought when I saw that screenshot as well.

Poor 360 though, always getting a bad rep because of these red lights. Let's take a moment to look at all the good things that red lights have brought us shall we?

Darth Vader's lightsaber is a red light....cool
There's a certain District in Amsterdam....very cool
And....uhmm...yeah that's all I've got.....super cool!!

Just to let you guys know. I found out that E74 is the new RRoD for newer xbox's. Trust me, within the next 6 months your going to see a lot more of these and it's too bad we have to pay over $100 to fix a product that you can't get 2 years out of.

I don't even think there are that many PS3 fanboys... PS2 yes, but PS3, no. Well, maybe that many fanboys, but owners, no.

"Nice Flame Bait Post"

Why are you complementing yourself?

He was referring to the article/post/blog.

and DangerMouse was mocking the OP.
It's farsical to suggest that posting a story about 360 failures is just "flamebait" and will only cause PS3 owners to post false occurences. The OP is bordering on paranoid delusional.

@knight

Do we really need to start a flame here?

c'mon this is old news

Jon, this is hardly "news-worthy", let alone post-worthy, and there is no real need for it.

Whatever Kyle Orland's intentions, it is an unnecessary article, and will, no doubt, incite flames and attract fanboys.

For the record, this isn't news- never was.

WAHHH, THEY IS MAKING DE FUN OF MAI XBOX!

GUYSGUYSGUYS.

GUYS.

Somebody's feelings are going to get hurt.

"
Whatever Kyle Orland's intentions, it is an unnecessary article, and will, no doubt, incite flames and attract fanboys."

First i heard of it, so it's news to me. It's funny that people are quick to label the fanboys, yet they put their guard up preemptively before someone has a chance to bash their favorite system. If it's such a flamebait post, then why mention the obvious? Hooray for Reverse Fanboyism.

This is a VERY important post. I had this exact problem, a single red ring section and an error on the screen. I've had mine a bit more than a year, I'm just thankful I bought it at Costco. Because I would have had to pay for a repair. It's ridiculous that the 3 year warranty doesn't cover all hardware failures.

Ps3 is ghey.
Xbocks sux!
The Wii is for Pedophiles!

PC FTW!







AmIRite?

For someone who refers to it as the "God box 360", I can see your frustrations with the fact that your "god" is far from perfect.

Just take a few deep breaths, and repent! Heathen!!

flame bait no. Flame bait would be having a thread each time one of the staff's 360 died on them. Of course no gaming site I know of does that(*cough Kotaku *cough) This is just news that gamers should know, so it has a purpose.

agreed.

However, this was what happened to my original 360. I've actually never gotten the 3 red rings that everyone speaks of. Luckily it happened 9 months in, and my replacement system has been flawless ever since.

Matt B, I certainly hope that post wasn't directed to me, as it would be entirely untrue if it was.

Yeah no shit ... I had to do that twice already when I had disc read errors ... I have had 4 natural RRODs and 2 forced RRODs ... I am pretty pissed that any hardware failure is not covered by the warranty but where there are towels there are forced RRODs ... Microsoft isn't fooling anyone and I would guess the actual console failure percentage is higher than 33% ... If you only count the RRODs it is probably around 25-33%

yea it suck that we have result to BS like this just to get a replacement console. I have the regular warranty with MS and 2 year warranty from the best buy that i bought it from. Which in my opinion is better. (I go in hand in my broken 360, and grab a new one from where they have them. They take out all the extra goodies though like the HDD and controller.)

Oh man 6 rings total? That'd be way too much for me to handle without killing a man.

I've had mine for almost a year, and I've been lucky enough for it to be just fine.
...though I get kinda scared when I turn it on nowadays.

Well, my first PS3 lasted all of 3 hours so speak for yourself. I had the E74 error early December and MS repaired it no questions asked. In terms of hours, I play my 360 20:1 vs. PS3, and I've had many more problems with my shiny Sony brick than I've had in 2+ years of 360 ownership. Probably a fluke, but that's been my experience.

Sux for all you guys. I've had 0 probmes with my PS3, and i sent in my 360 once cuz Saint's Row and Gears of War were freezing every 5 seconds. They replaced the fan :)

had my ps3 since november and not a single issue.
had my wii for a month and a half (got it at launch) and had the graphics card error. sent it off to get it replaced and the replacement (that I got less than a week later!) is still running great
don't own a 360

My PC is working fine. :D

My PC's video card was DOA and then the motherboard died a week later. Thankfully, it was a new build so I was able to RMA both. But in two weeks time I had more problems with my PC than all my consoles combined.

As for my consoles... I had a launched 360 that had never RRoD'd, but I sold it last year and got an Elite. Sadly, the person I sold it to got the RRoD a week or so after I sold it. I think it must have been hit too hard during shipping or something. Oh well, he was able to get it fixed for free through MS.

Neither my PS3 nor Wii have given me any troubles at all. Both operate great *knock on wood*

I thought in Europe the minimum warranty was 2 years... maybe thats why they repaired it no questions asked

No idea! Just glad I didn't have to pay, console bricked again the second I got it back aswell!

In Europe you're covered by the Consumer rights Act - You can take any good back to the place you purchased it from and demand an exchange if it fails within an unreasonable timeframe, warranty or not. I took the advice of a friend who runs a few dispatch offices for an online retailer - he said the Spanish Xbox's have a much lower rate of return than most of the other countries, and we figured maybe due the the Consumer Rights and the hot temperature in Spain, that Microsoft were making sure the good consoles went there first. Both our (Spanish) Xboxes have been fine (My friend has had his nearly 2 years now) compared to my brother in law's US xbox, which has been returned twice, and my brother's UK xbox, which has rrod'd once (But now works ok). Can any Spanish readers out there verify this?

@toboski


Sounds a bit too farfetched.

@toboski

Yeah, thats a bit of a conspiracy theory there. Are you sure the rates aren't lower just due to sales numbers / population.

Covering all their various malfunctions for three years is the least they can do when they greedily rushed out a half-baked box so they could beat Nintendo and Sony to the profits. This thing was not QC'd nearly enough; When they decided it was a good choice not to put in the time and money up front they pretty much made there bed for what is happening now.

This E74 issue is likely a small one- hardly ever hear about it... As a matter of fact, I hear about more PS3s with broken disc drives than the E74.

The only real defect that MS SHOULD have to own up to is the RRoD... Everything else is fair game, just like the broken PS3 owners who don't get their console repaired for free- oh, lets not forget that dust is an act of God, as well.

Wow, Zeus is so desperate he is now making things up. Its just a console dude. Not your ego. Although, why the two are inextricably tied might be a good question for your therapist.

WTH are you talking about???? they should cover every malfunctioning issue with their console as long as is not the customers fault, or an accident!

If they can't make a decent piece of hardware the least they could do is have some warranty for it.

I only own a PS3 right now, until they are done with all the RROD crap and all the other bugs on their console i wont get it, i want to though... but i'm not gonna waste my money on a piece of junk.

I'll just play gears 2 on my PC, just like i did with the first one. I really hope they can work out the bugs!!

Really, now, Serpiente? You just keep proving me right, you little fanboy, you.

Maybe Sony should have replaced my out of warranty PSP that constantly froze 5-10 minutes after turning it on? It wasn't my fault, but it was out of warranty, so they didn't replace it without a fee- was that wrong? No. It wasn't. It sucked yes, but the E74 obviously isn't a large problem as you hardly ever hear about it! Its more of just a defect with the console that is fairly rare- the only reason the warranty was extended was for the RRoD which WAS and IS an abnormally large problem with a lot of 360s- therefore, Microsoft SHOULD (but in no means are they REQUIRED to) fix it, which they have. They covered a certain very common issue. E74 with the single light, is not, and affects a smaller amount of consoles (obviously), otherwise it WOULD have been included.

Maybe Sony or Nintendo should cover each and every defect for as long as the console is available for sale? Thats what you're implying Microsoft should do.

Be reasonable and THINK for once.

I know you are, but what am I?

So...Zeus has a rock-solid Xbox, his Zune 80 is WAYYYY more reliable than any of his friends' iPods (per his post yesterday (even though the Zune 80 has only been out a whopping 5 months!)), and he wears Steve Ballmer jammies (just an educated guess on my part).

Do I smell...a Redmond shill?

Quix, I'm in no way a "Redmond shill", a "Microsoft shill", or a shill of any kind. I state the FACTS, and I have yet to have a single problem with either of my Zunes; I have had a few slight issues with the Xbox from time to time, but never a single RRoD, disc read error (except from smudged discs), or disc scratching.

I know whats up with the 360, and I know that it has problems that I have been lucky enough not to have (partly because I take care of it, as I do with all of my electronics). On the other hand, though, the RRoD is unacceptable- by no means have I ever implied that it was. It never should have gotten this bad, but I also don't believe it was ever as high as a certain *EB Games* manager claimed it to be.

I feel Microsoft has dealt with and fulfilled their ethical obligations by extending the warranty 3 years to cover their main, widespread issue- the RRoD. Considering that the E74 error is a less common error, as with any other product from any other company, it shouldn't be specially covered by a specific warranty.

Every Xbox is given a 1 year warranty covering ALL defects. The 3 year warranty covers the widespread issue, and thats all it was intended to do, and thats all it was ever CLAIMED to do.

This article is NOT news. The fact that it is not covered is NOT news.

By the way, if I was a Microsoft shill- would I have owned every previous Sony console? PS1, PS2, and PSP- had them all. I'm all for Sony; I don't care what it is, if there is something wrong with it, I will criticize it, I'm just against misinformation, which mostly seems to spread from PS3 owners, generally.

I don't support the Xbox 360 fanboys or any of the bullshit they spread either, however, on both Engadget and Joystiq, it seems to have become a fad to bash Microsoft at every turn- in sort of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of way.

I'm looking forward to buying my PS3.