Burnout Paradise: Second update detailed, dated April 24

Burnour Pair of Dice...

I want to pick this game... it's still $60?

dude stop bogarting

Well, I think that the ship first, patch later mentality might make some sense but is completely not true. Back in the day, only PC games were patched and updated (sometimes with gamer feedback). Console games were plagued by, what you get...is what you'll always get unless a Game of the Year edition came out with fixes and updates. Patches, and often ones, are great, although they do sometimes introduce new issues; but I wouldn't have it any other way personally since game developers are humans too...they can never make a 100% perfect game without glitches...unless its pong haha.

Now... I don't want to get anyone fired for this; but what's the damned point of having testers & QA for a game if they miss blatently obvious faults with the game?

Sorry, I think I'm still bitter from talk/typing about that frackin' SONIC THE HEDGEHOG game in the other article. >_

Would that I cared about playing online. Maybe this "unfair low speed" fix will make a difference, though.

Other high priority issues that have been fixed:
* Instances where Barrel rolls were not registering correctly in Stunt Run.

NOW I can do a barrel roll!

I love this game, but I suck at it online. I hope this helps me lol.

Criterion said last week that this would be out the 24th. Monday (the 7th)'s podcast said it was progressing through Sony's qualification faster than expected and it might show up sooner than they thought. They implied it would be ready this week!

But no arrow indicator or scrolling map? The biggest fault with Burnout Paradise is that it's 'too open', meaning that it's all to easy to miss turns or go the wrong way because the map doesn't follow you and there is little-to-no indication of how to reach your destination.

This game shipped completely playable, and it's excellent. This is NOT a case of 'Ship now, Fix later' as seems to be the gist of this post. In the past, the things 'wrong' with Burnout Paradise would have been accepted at face value and lived with - not called fatal flaws as implied here. There are games that fit the bill of 'Ship now, Fix later' far more easily than Burnout Paradise.

The fixes here represent how things are now, and the upside in internet-based patching: a good game gets some enhancements (new levels/areas and vehicles) and fixes via the internet. "You want perfection? We can tweak the game and give it to you." I have little problem with this sort of patch.

I will agree with Cutty's sentiment, however - this game lacks the 'Jump in and RACE with your friends online' aspect that the previous Burnout games have had - Pity the poor blighter who just started playing, it's so open that it's very easy to make a wrong turn, or simply make a 'slightly wrong' turn, and lose a race within the first 10 seconds while your friends, who know the city better, dash off in the distance - It really could have used a 'closed course' mode like the old games, with the old red-arrow invisible barriers, to allow for straight-up decision-free racin'.

crap...I can't even remember if I dl'd the first patch yet...ah well, at least they're paying attention to the gamers.

Oh, my.

Dear ThinkingOf:

Maybe I didn't make myself clear: I like the game as it is. I didn't mention 'getting lost' in the first ten seconds of a race, but I did mention 'losing in the first ten seconds.' It's hard to recover from a wrong turn in this game. The issue I have with playing online with friends of mine who purchased the game a few weeks later than I did is this: they simply don't know the intricacies of the the city as well as I do, and in turn, I don't know the city as well as another friend of ours, who easily finishes 10 seconds ahead of all of us. I'm sure I would get destroyed playing with strangers who live and breathe games like this.

"Practice More!" you no doubt will type (seems there's no "in-between" on the internet), but the point is, no one in my group wants to play the race mode anymore - the addictive 'try again!' aspect is incredibly small for heavily-trounced beginners, so I suggested a closed-course MODE, an OPTION than could be turned on.

Well, no real concern if you don't agree. We all are allowed opinions on this.

By the way, is there really a problem with the sentence "know the city better?" I doubt you'd try correcting my grammar but couldn't be bothered to put together a cohesive paragraph, correctly spell words like 'lost' and makes up others like 'alot.' Or would you? Nah.

At least Criterion knows how to treat their paying customers on the PS3. Infinity Ward should take note.

Obligatory eye patch post and not quite lamenting ship first mentality