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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:07AM Peter Moore said

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For some reason, this article caused this to pop back into my mind. (It has to do with Halo): http://download.gamevideos.com/Podcasts/CGW/GFWRadio_HeroesCollection/GFWRadio_HOTW_10-04.mp3
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:18AM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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They needed him to be accepted as a savior of humanity

So they want people to accept MC as Jesus?

I'm down with that.

Master Chief is my lord and savior.

HOOORAH!!!
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:35AM (Unverified) said

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Amen to that
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 3:57AM ThornedVenom said

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Master Chief is our Keanu Reeves?
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 4:03AM (Unverified) said

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The church of Master Chief

With father Major Nelson spreading the word of our lord Master Chief to the world
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 4:24AM (Unverified) said

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"Master Chief is our Keanu Reeves?"

...wait so he's Buddha?

^I don't think anyone is going to get that... :|
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:27AM (Unverified) said

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Revelations 1:17 (written by the Apostle John):

"When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last"
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 9:02AM (Unverified) said

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What a load of shit!
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:02PM Korova Pamplona said

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I got that Pajama.

I think I got it.


Wait
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:24AM Antibot said

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Does it matter to the marketers that most non-gamers just refer to him as Halo?
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 3:39AM (Unverified) said

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Does it bother Nintendo that most nongamers refer to Link as Zelda?
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 4:49AM (Unverified) said

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It don't matter, they still think he's a pretty cool guy. They admire him for his killing and not being afraid of anything.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:29AM samfish said

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I get Time, but I don't remember any issue with Master Chief on the cover. Is my brain malfunctioning? When was this?
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:41AM Anticrawl said

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I remember it vaguely, was a pretty big deal. I remember heading over to our campus library to check out the issue.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:42AM Anticrawl said

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By the way samfish, why the change from sexy Peach to Daisy (I assume that's who it is).
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:29AM (Unverified) said

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There were spartans on the header above the cover story in Sept. 07 IIRC.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:50AM Rususeruru said

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http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20070910,00.html

CORRECT! Spartan on the banner. Issue date Sept 10 2007.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:31AM Jerk Face said

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YeeeeHaaalo?
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:36AM mundox said

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"hey didn't want to portray Master Chief "as a reckless American cowboy."

Yeah jumping out of a spaceship into earth is not reckless...
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 2:43AM Anticrawl said

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Taht scene in Halo 2 where he said he was going to bring the bomb back made that game, it made it.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 9:20AM ComicShaman said

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I guess he didn't have a ten-gallon hat on and say "Yeee-haa!" So at least he wasn't a cowboy.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 3:22AM Peter Moore said

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Calm the fuck down.

The story doesn't have anything to do with being American, asstard. It just meant they didn't want the public perception of Master Chief to be all gunho, Rambo-style emotionless soilder.

America doesn't even exist anymore in the time Halo takes place, for God's sake.

/rant from an American

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Oh, and also, about that Superman line. T
he original phrase from the Max Fleischer Superman cartoons was "...a never-ending battle for truth and justice." (1941-1943)

And in the first live-action Superman serials in 1948 the line was "...in the interests of truth, tolerance and justice."

The line "a never-ending battle for truth, justice and the American way." wasn't added until the first TV series in 1952.

It was 14 years after the first Superman appearance for that, so shut up about how they changed the line when it wasn't the original in the first place.

/rant #2
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 3:42AM (Unverified) said

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Well, truth, justice and the American way did become the contemporary iconic tagline for Superman - I was a bit miffed at the omission in SR as well (huge Supes fan, by the way).

The truth, imho, is that the global perception of America is that of an imperialist nation that installs goverments by force to further their own oil interests, decries the development of nuclear weapons so that we can be the only ones to have them, and that we believe that every other country and culture should be just like ours - those poor dumb bastards would rather be alive than free.

Sadly, a character that represents 'Truth, Justice, and the American Way' would not be looked to kindly upon anywhere than here.

The Bush administration = an oil cartel. Good thing it only cost about 4000 or so lives of our soldiers to line their pockets.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 3:45AM (Unverified) said

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Oh, only since 1952...

Wow, that some legitimate argument you got there. It's a tradition that only spans 50 years! Just disregard the fact that superman has been the embodiment of American values in comics/movies/US propaganda since his inception.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 3:53AM spin cycle said

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I'm not sure I'd go to the Halo 3 marketing team for advice. Halo 3 doesn't seem like a runaway success. It had the largest first-day marketing campaign for a game ever, and MS spent lots of platform-marketing dollars to sell a it. And in the end it has been beat out pretty handily by a game (or several) that didn't have such advantages.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 4:23AM (Unverified) said

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Ummm.... no? If you click the link to see the 100 best selling games in the last 12 months, you'll see Halo 3 is second with 8 million copies sold... wait for it... on ONE console...

CoD4, the awesome game it is, is sitting at 8.3 million on FOUR consoles/systems (360, PS3, DS, and PC)...

Therefore, Halo 3 is the runaway success MS wanted it to be. Just think of how many copies it would have sold if released on the PC (gasp!) and PS3 (faint!)... easily over 10 or 12 million total, on the low side probably.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 10:45AM Knight Marquise said

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Sure you wouldn't. Is it because Halo wasn't a success...no that couldn't be it, becuase it was...must be because you have a hard on against anything MS. We get it already, ok?
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 11:53AM spin cycle said

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I'll think of you two next time I go to Fry's and see the cat helmet editions still sitting there a year later.

I didn't say Halo 3 was a success. I said it wasn't a runaway success. And you'll see this even more as Halo 3 fails to be a huge long-term seller (i.e. have legs) as much as the last two Halos did.

Halo's level of success was great, but not proportional to what MS spent on marketing it. And as to how much better it would have sold if it were cross-platform, that's an unfair comparison. You're talking about a game that got a marketing blitz paid for by single-platform money. There wouldn't have been the same level of investment in the game or the marketing if the game wasn't designed to sell a platform.

Ultimately, Halo 3 was created to sell a lot of 360s, and yet worldwide, the 360 was outsold by the PS3 in the last year. I can assure you this isn't what MS intended when making (and paying out the ass for) Halo 3.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 4:00AM ThornedVenom said

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Batman beats the crap out of Superman. :D



/gets shot and downvoted
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 4:10AM Peter Moore said

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@ManicBomber
"Just disregard the fact that superman has been the embodiment of American values in comics/movies/US propaganda since his inception."

Then why do you need four words to reinforce that. I'm not saying being proud of being American is bad or anything, but getting your panties in a twist over a line from a movie is pretty stupid.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 6:11AM Nigeria said

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Synner's logic is logical.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:15AM (Unverified) said

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I never looked at Master Chief as a reckless cowboy. Halo has always been out futuristic warfare [combat evolved]. I never even considered the game as being hardcore either, It's actually pretty tame when held up to the likes of doom & quake.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 6:24AM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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This is not suprising, I actually liked the adverts, its the actual games I wasn't happy about :(
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 6:28AM snarfoogle said

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Is it bad that I play Halo cowboy style by taking out two magnums? And I have a custom game type called COWBOYZ?

And yeah, I'm pretty sure jumping out of a spaceship to "give the Covenant back their bomb" counts as reckless.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 7:56AM koehler83 said

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If that's the saviour of humanity, we are seriously more fucked than I could have ever imagined.

And I've been convinced for many years we are seriously, seriously fucked. Totally, irreparably fucked.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 7:25AM LaughingTarget said

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Thorned - Superman called Batman the most dangerous man on Earth in JLA #3 (I think it's the right issue), so the argument has been settled. Batman wins over Superman, both in style and the fact he carries Kryptonite everywherehe goes.

Plus, lately, Batman has been more American than Supes. Do it my way, screw everyone else.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 7:28AM LaughingTarget said

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Fighting an entire war when your allies are clones of Gomer Pyle is reckless.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:02AM Jakey777 said

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LEAVE MASTER CHIEF ALONE!!!! HE JUST GOT PREGNANT!
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:12AM (Unverified) said

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Yay! American pride! I'm proud to be American too! me and all the people from South and Central America, we are all proud to call ourselves American too...

Synner, you are so full of it

"I'm really getting sick of the way hollywood and now apparently the gaming industry is so worried that they might lose money by identifying with the country that allows them to make the copious loads of money they do"

Just like how Hollywood portrays germans, chinese, vietnameses, canadians, etc....right?


"Show some pride in your homeland and grow some balls, if America wasn't so great, millions wouldn't be trying to enter every year."

huh? one thing is being a great country, and another is having more job possitions available, you really think the millions of people that come here do so for the lifestyle? if so, you are so freaking naive...


"Why don't you go look up the death tolls and military tactics regarding rules of engagement and acceptable losses for WW2, ie "the good war" We used to bomb the fuck out of towns in order to do the most civilian collateral damage, now we minimize it and are still assholes."

Acceptable? dude, NO WAR IS ACCEPTABLE, don't try to excuse one with another.

Hell, you want to be proud? why don't you show that pride to the countless of people that lost their family in Japan? what about the countless people that lost their fathers, brothers, sisters on the Iraq war? yah, go and show them your american pride, I'm sure they'll appreciate it and understand.

Do you really think that all the other countries dislike the US just because its cool to do so? haven't you thought that MAYBE, just MAYBE there is a logic reason?...


"Wow, that some legitimate argument you got there. It's a tradition that only spans 50 years! Just disregard the fact that superman has been the embodiment of American values in comics/movies/US propaganda since his inception."

uh...I don't know about that, I watched Superman movies and the series, yet I didn't know that he meant US nationalism...now, Captain American, you guys should put your bets on that guy.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:26AM (Unverified) said

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look, not to knock the great gameplay of Halo, but the story is fucking lame!!! Oh, and Master Chief is the lamest name in the history of humankind!!!!
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 8:47AM (Unverified) said

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Excuse me professor, Master Chief isn't a name, it's a title in the tradition of the US Navy.

Right now Synner is having a fit in his Superman Underoos.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 9:48AM jumpshot said

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His name is John. They only call him Master Cheif because it's his rank.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 10:37AM LaughingTarget said

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"And henceforth, all the toilets in the kingdom shall be referred to as Johns."

I have no idea why that quote just came to mind.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 10:59AM jumpshot said

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Lol... Prepare for the fight scene!
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 9:37AM jumpshot said

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I'm not trying to upset anyone, but Superman was created by two people, one of which was Canadian. (Joe Shuster)

And "Supes" has changed a lot over the years, usually to update with the times. That's been good for him.

And yeah, Batman totally kicks his ass... If he remembers the kryptonite
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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 10:44AM Knight Marquise said

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Right on Synner.

@ Noshino

"huh? one thing is being a great country, and another is having more job possitions available, you really think the millions of people that come here do so for the lifestyle? if so, you are so freaking naive..."

Your family must not have immigrated to America, and you must not know anyone who has. Half my family did immigrate (the German half. The other half was already here, Native American). If you think the only reason people immigrate here is for the work, you're the naive and ignorant fool.

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Posted: Apr 11th 2008 12:51PM (Unverified) said

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Knight

I'm peruvian, my close family migrated here 6 years ago.

And yes, the most important factor is the job availability, the american lifestyle is dead last
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Posted: Apr 12th 2008 2:14PM (Unverified) said

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You'll really love what they're doing to GI Joe then...
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