PS3 sales pass 2 million in Japan
For the sake of comparison, the Nintendo Wii passed the 5 million mark in Japan earlier this year -- it's probably creeping up on six by now. Meanwhile (don't laugh) the Xbox 360 gently rocks in the corner, wondering what it did wrong, with a regional lifetime sales figure of 555,000. Poor little guy.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 11th 2008 10:23AM
Oh my god! The Wii is doomed... doomed!
el serpiente @ Apr 11th 2008 10:26AM
It would be better if you just typed 'FIRST!!!!111'
Nushio (NDF - Blue) @ Apr 11th 2008 10:36AM
El Serpiente is jealous because he didn't get 'First Post'
naxe @ Apr 11th 2008 10:46AM
at least give credit where credit is due. the ps3 is almost double in price and has a slimmer library. The wii has done nothing but release the same Tired Old junk it did on the game cube and the N64 before that. lets see {Mario} check. {mario party} check. {paper mario} check. {mario kart} check. {zelda} check. {Metroid prime} check. {super smash bros.} check. talk about beating a dead horse.
Just get a "I HATE SONY" tattoo. you wont even have to say anything.
WiiSports Machine...Fernandos in disguise PSN: Killjebus @ Apr 11th 2008 10:44AM
Do not fret Fernandos, the PS3's killer software that the Playstation brand is known for is just around the corner, and once it starts...just like the PS2 it will not stop. (until the PS4 or course)
As for the Wii, time will tell if it's horribly crippled hardware and lack of quality 3rd party software can still be going strong a year or two from now.
Re-hashing the SAME 1st party titles cannot last forever either.
Some say the 360 blew it's load too quickly. Meanwhile the Wii came out of the gate blowing it's load all over the place...I wonder how much protien Mario has left.
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 11th 2008 10:48AM
"Re-hashing the SAME 1st party titles cannot last forever either."
So, whats the PS3 killer software? Gran Turismo 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, Killzone 2 (first one was mediocre)?
el serpiente @ Apr 11th 2008 10:52AM
Yeah, cause the only difference between MGS3 and 4 is that they added waggle to 4.
Ninjakamster @ Apr 11th 2008 11:03AM
Its really too bad you aren't. :(
samfish @ Apr 11th 2008 11:04AM
The only difference between MGS3 and 4 is the FPS mode, if you're going to go down that trollish route.
WiiSports Machine...Fernandos in disguise PSN: Killjebus @ Apr 11th 2008 11:08AM
Fernandos,
Do you know what re-hashing is? No you don't. Yes MGS4 is the fourth game in the series, yes GT5 is the fifth game in the series...but c'mon nuttchugger, that is the ONLY thing that is similar. Both games run on NEW engines on NEW hardware with much better physics, graphics and on and on.
Meanwhile Nintendos 1st party games are IDENTICAL to the ones on the Cube. YOU know it, and I know it.
I have no problem with a franchise that has sequels, I DO have a problem with sequels that are NOT sequels.
Co @ Apr 11th 2008 11:08AM
Here, I'll sum up killjebus' comment to save everyone a few minutes of their day:
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!!!
Whenever I read one of his posts, I picture that Dave Chappelle skit "Hater's Ball" where all the haters give out the Hate Awards. I picture him as the Asian Hater in that skit specifically, I don't know why. LMFAO
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 11th 2008 11:10AM
"... lack of quality 3rd party software"
Well, this year Wii is going to have Tales of Symphonia, a tri-Cresendo game (Fragile: Farewell Ruins of the Moon), Telltale is going to release Sam & Max and an episodic WiiWare title.
Treasure is working in two Wii titles:
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/04/11/treasure-working-on-two-wii-games-but/
We are going to receive Shiren the Wanderer... also the new Square-Enix game Soul Eater, Factor 5 is also developing for Nintendo... also Square Enix Crystal Bearers... Sky Crawlers with the devs. of Ace Combat...
Plus, WiiWare:
World of Goo: http://freeki.freeki.es/wp-content/uploads/Goo.jpg
Eternitys Child: http://www.kawaiigamer.com/eternityschild.jpg
Lit: http://kotaku.com/364906/lit-to-light-up-wiiware
Lost Wind: http://gonintendo.com/?p=38037
And Final Fantasy CC, Alien Crush, Star Soldier...
I see a lot of support.
el serpiente @ Apr 11th 2008 11:14AM
Oh, also maybe new characters, online multiplayer, HD graphics, continuation of an epic story, a full bluray disc of BOO-YAH.
Nice try though. Now, go back to your waggle-box.
WiiSports Machine...Fernandos in disguise PSN: Killjebus @ Apr 11th 2008 11:16AM
Good for you Fernandos.
EVERYTHING the WSM puts out (for me) will look old and busted, and it should...why? BECAUSE its the same DAMN hardware as the 8 year old GameCube.
I could care less if a NEW PS2 game came out, no matter who developed it...I would not buy it because it would look like Krap on my Panny. The physics and the other things that the 360 and PS3 give us would not be there either.
If I want a NEW PS2 game...I will buy it for the PSP, which for me is a PS2 in my pocket.
The Fernandos of the world might be OK with OLD and BUSTED technology, as for me...I like NEW things that push the technological envelope.
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Apr 11th 2008 11:17AM
Fernando,
A funny thought just occurred to me when I saw your list. Isn't that an "it's coming" or "wait for it" list?
My brother! Welcome to the crew.
samfish @ Apr 11th 2008 11:18AM
What is it about Joystiq that attracts such rabid, vicious Sony trolls?
Seriously over due for a banning...
Nigeria: Cody ChesnuTT Defense Force @ Apr 11th 2008 11:23AM
I'M MAD AS HELL AND SOMEONE'S GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT SO HELP ME GOD!
WiiSports Machine...Fernandos in disguise PSN: Killjebus @ Apr 11th 2008 11:24AM
Whatever Samfish...by the way do you Waxon Waxoff to your avitar...because I do.
Anyhoo, I do not see any trolling here, we are bantering back and forth a bit but for the most part, I think this is a pretty civil thread with some valid points for both sides.
If anything YOU ARE THE TROLL who keeps on whining in POST AFTER POST about all of the trolling that goes on.
Hypocritical much....hmmmn?
el serpiente @ Apr 11th 2008 11:24AM
What, samfish, can't take the heat so you have to ask your internet mommy to ban them?
darklordzero @ Apr 11th 2008 11:25AM
"I could care less if a NEW PS2 game came out, no matter who developed it...I would not buy it because it would look like Krap on my Panny"
Wow, good thing that "gamers" like you tend to be in the minority, otherwise Persona 3: FES would have never been released here.
Hooligunn @ Apr 11th 2008 11:29AM
To be honest the way I look at it, 360 has blown it's load and still has plenty more to give but unfortunately PS3 has serious erectile disfunctions. Honest truth right there.
Gun Barrier (=Gamer Tag) SSBB: 3952-6696-7009 @ Apr 11th 2008 11:30AM
kiljebus
so how do ps3 games push the technological envelope if people say it ony uses 30% of the cell and the bluray isnt even used right?
I'd say games on the wii are pushing it. If they can finally code a 360 level game to work with the wii, then THAT would be pushing the envelop.
Nigeria: Cody ChesnuTT Defense Force @ Apr 11th 2008 11:33AM
I agree with Samfish, Joystiq is overrun with trolls. Mainly on the Sony side.
Almost every topic degenerates into a shouting match where ignotance and abuse is hurled about with abandon.
There needs to be a thinning of the herd. It's going past banter. This isn't the chan boards and we don't want it to become so. Do we?
WiiSports Machine...Fernandos in disguise PSN: Killjebus @ Apr 11th 2008 11:36AM
"so how do ps3 games push the technological envelope if people say it ony uses 30% of the cell and the bluray isnt even used right?"
They havent yet, MGS4, GT5P will be the first games that really start to get under the hood of Sony's black beast. R2, KZ2, LBP, WKS, will go even further...and GOW3, Heavy Rain, Getaway...will go even further.
Playstations 1, 2, and 3 1st years have very little quality software. Do you remember all of the Dreamcast looks just as good (Soul Calibur) and its cheaper outcry in the PS2's 1st year?
NO, I do.
Gun Barrier (=Gamer Tag) SSBB: 3952-6696-7009 @ Apr 11th 2008 11:37AM
yes, there are alot of "ignotant" people on joystiq.
what are the requirements for being eligible for a banning anyway?
why not the LS2LS7? @ Apr 11th 2008 11:41AM
samfish:
What is it about joystiq that brings Wii trolls?
This is a PS3 article, isn't it?
Did you read the very, very first post? Fernando's obvious trolling Wii post?
And you single out Ken here?
borland502 (SDF - Macross Ring) @ Apr 11th 2008 11:43AM
"Whatever Samfish...by the way do you Waxon Waxoff to your avitar...because I do."
"What, samfish, can't take the heat so you have to ask your internet mommy to ban them?"
Dunno guys, I think he's probably feeling smug right now after those gems. And I'm not feeling too smart myself after getting defeated by the comment system twice.
Gun Barrier (=Gamer Tag) SSBB: 3952-6696-7009 @ Apr 11th 2008 11:44AM
kiljebus
lol i get what your saying, but the wii came out at the same time as the ps3, so people need time to get used to it too. It supposedly has more power than an xbox1. Plus, getting the waggle to be more than just waggle is pretty difficult too. Give the wii some time and we all might be surprized of waht a good developer can do on it.
SillyShiggy WSN (if it had one): lovsatan @ Apr 11th 2008 11:48AM
*huff**huff**PHEW!*
Sorry, everyone, that it took me so long to get here. I was supposed to show up months ago, but my weekend golf buddy, Ken, gave me inaccurate directions. No biggie, I know he be playin', you silly goose you! Anyway, I am here and we can get the party started!
So... what did I miss?
ThornedVenom (Harley Quinn Defense Force) @ Apr 11th 2008 12:04PM
The fight between Fernando and Killjebus is never going to end, huh?
THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN
religiousjedi @ Apr 11th 2008 12:11PM
Dammit Fernando...you just had to start this...
Dammit Ken/el serpiente...you had to keep it going...
ThePremierAssassin @ Apr 11th 2008 12:32PM
Damn Fernando you SPIKED THEM.
This is seriously some delicious flame bait...
I LOVE IT.
As for the ps3 LMAO...they're only hitting 2 million sold NOW.
Enjoy 3rd place losers.
el serpiente @ Apr 11th 2008 12:41PM
Really? Looks to me like Fernando just got a playstation logo tattooed on his ass.
Donald @ Apr 11th 2008 3:58PM
Long reply thread is long!
jcd @ Apr 12th 2008 11:42AM
I don't get the fanboys. Really. Let's compare "system selling" games:
Nintendo
Super Mario 512
Zelda: Acronym of Doom
Metroid Prime 4: The Quest for More Money
wii gardening (comes with a special garden trowel peripheral and costs $90)
Sony
FFLXIV (which is about effeminate guys wearing BDSM gear fighting other effeminate guys with big hair)
MGS:4, which will be followed by . . .
MGS:4 Substantial Extra Edition, which will be followed by . . .
MGS:4 Substantial Extra Edition Lets Milk the Same Game with One More Release
GT:9--now realistically simulates being stuck in traffic!!!
Fernando, Ken, stop humping your respective consoles long enough to understand this: your 'system sellers' are rehashed, tired, and the Japanese gaming market likes it that way. That's why MS can't get a foothold there. If the next xbox were able to get all of the 'same old same old' that sony and nintendo have exclusives on, they might stand a chance.
Zertoss @ Apr 11th 2008 10:27AM
The only thing the 360 did wrong was getting made in not-Japan.
SAGExSDX @ Apr 11th 2008 10:29AM
sad indeed
xFenixKnightx @ Apr 11th 2008 10:36AM
I keep sending emails to MS to rename the 360 in Japan to Ibox 360. They would go crazy over it I tell ya =P
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 11th 2008 10:40AM
So that whole "fuck you, play american games" production focus for the entire Xbox life cycle as well the first year out in Japan did nothing... nope, Made In America. Certainly explains how iPod, McDonalds, and Michael Jackson have such problems in that region... wait.
Just admit it, Microsoft's focus was on american gamers first in their production, lineup, mentality, and design. If that's your focus, good and grand. But don't expect every region in the world to be like your homestate. In fact, the big three (most popular genres) are different in all five regions with very little overlap.
You can't exactly throw Gears of War over there (with Locusts hiding in the closet) and expect it to stick when games in the genre never have.
WiiSports Machine...Fernandos in disguise PSN: Killjebus @ Apr 11th 2008 10:46AM
A pathetic excuse for bad management and even worse promotion of the 360 in the land of the rising Sun.
Mr. Sunglasses said it perfectly as to why the 360 tanked in Japan.
el serpiente @ Apr 11th 2008 10:50AM
Perhaps the Japanese aren't stupid enough to buy broken faulty hardware.
RED RINGU! RED RINGU OF DETSU!
xFenixKnightx @ Apr 11th 2008 11:07AM
Fiddy
So then a game like Dark Sector should be doing well over there but its not. I cannot tell you how much it reminded me of playing a RE game. Have you played it? You should its a great game and you would know what I mean. Its VERY UNDERATED. Whats the difference? The difference is that if Dark Sector were made by Capcom that game would be a break out hit over in Japan.
Oh and Dont go using Mcdonalds as an excuse, who the hell doesnt love MickyD's? Lets use this as an example. Here in the US...when was the last time you saw a person of Asian decent driving a US MADE CAR??? Yeah maybe 1000 out of 2 million, MIrite? And why is that?
So the 360 doesnt do well in Japan, I dont think its going to change. There are plenty of titles that appeal to the Japanese audience on 360. You know what they are already so just be quiet already with that mess.
Zertoss @ Apr 11th 2008 11:08AM
lol fanboys sure do take these jokes seriously. I wasn't even trying to troll, but consider yourselves trolled.
Jack @ Apr 11th 2008 11:08AM
While what Fidlius says is partially correct, it's completely dishonest to suggest the Xbox wasn't already up against the wall when facing the Japanese market.
Japan has always been a hostile market for foreign-made products. It come from the societies historical heritage of nationalism and patriotism. The fervor for Japan has found itself into the economic mindset. Much like the US's Puritan foundings have found their way into our (admittedly hypocritical) moral code.
Samsung, a Korean company, no longer markets in Japan. They are an incredibly successful electronics company elsewhere, but floundered in Japan. To even think about selling Chinese products in Japan would be an obtuse decision. It wasn't until recently that Japan began opening it's mind (limitedly) to American products... as can be seen with the likes of Apple.
So yes, Microsoft did have some missteps when targeting Japan... but to say the Japanese ethos wasn't to blame is just complete ignorance of the cultural predisposition and modern economic occurrences.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 11th 2008 11:10AM
Hardware failure has nothing to do with it. Let's put it this way...
-Bad Blood with Xbox. The Xbox brand isn't strong there to begin with, the successor isn't exactly going to come with arms open. Especially considering there was never a second shipment of Xboxes to Japan. They are STILL selling launch units over there.
-Xbox Live is awesome.... but online gaming, especially chat during gaming, is considered fairly fringe. The only two games to break this huge handicap is Monster Hunter and FFXI. See a problem with Xbox now in pushing Live? Way too many 360 games are dependant on Live and the concept in Japan is a fairly niche deal within itself (see? It's not a Nintendo behind the times or Sony faltering, it's both of those companies make decisions in a country which is culturally different).
-WHY DON'T YOU PLAY WHAT WE PLAY?!? Microsoft has made great strides in wooing third parties from Japan but facing facts, most of those companies look to 360 for their solutions outside of Japan rather than in. Take, for example, Capcom. Aside from DMC4, both of their efforts on 360 have a very western focus to them. Meanwhile, efforts on Wii are very Japanese.
It will take time to repair the Xbox brand in Japan... and this isn't going to help...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx4GdnFth2c
el serpiente @ Apr 11th 2008 11:20AM
Hah, Zertoss gets called out for saying something stupid, and then he says he was just "trolling". It's okay zertoss, people say stupid things here all the time. Don't be embarrased. Just try to decrease the stupid as time goes on.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 11th 2008 11:24AM
Jack, you're kind of right on the isolationalistic attitude. It takes a lot to break the barrier but as you mentioned, it is possible.
Except for some cases. Take, for example. Samsung. Koreans (north and south) and Japanese people HATE each other. This is a generations long hatred. Most asian countries are very racists towards each other, actually. Likewise, there is a noticable hatred between the Chinese and the Japanese. So to see companies like that flounder in Japan would be about as much of a suprise as the lack of Tupac CD sales at a KKK rally. There is a hatred there that's insurmountable.
American products actually have a MUCH better shot in Japan than Chinese and Korean products. Just here's the trick, you HAVE to acknowledge Japan as it's own market and not as "another place we can sell GTA."
Zertoss @ Apr 11th 2008 11:30AM
I really wasn't being serious, but you can justify your rampant fanboyism however you like, I suppose.
WiiSports Machine...Fernandos in disguise PSN: Killjebus @ Apr 11th 2008 11:31AM
Sir Fidlious and Jack,
Both of you are quite knowledgable with world events. Kudos to you. I am half Japanese and Sir hit the nail on the head in regards to Samsung.
The Japanese hate the Koreans and the Chinese. They have fought many Wars in the past and in WWII the Japanese did horrible unimaginable things to the Koreas and China. Shiro Ishi and his Unit 731 would make Mengele blush or run for cover.
For the most part, the Japanese kids are taught that Japan was the VICTIM of WWII and the Rape of Nanking and many other atrocities that the Emperial Army commited are NEVER mentioned. Hell, they still worship some of these War criminals at a Shinto Shrine.
It is nice to know that at least some people are VERY well versed in world history and world politics.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 11th 2008 11:39AM
Well, America tries to pretend the camps for Japanese Americans never happened... but they did.
It's this hindsight thing, do you deal with the mistakes of the past and try to deal with how to avoid them (I'm trying to think of a country to use for an example, but drawing a blank), or do you simple act as if it never happened (Germany) or do you take a revisionists approach to dealing whereas you were the good guys who lost?