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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:04PM (Unverified) said

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I'm sorry.

Is that a fucking joke?
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:42PM (Unverified) said

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I know whats witht he extra 3 gig requirment? It's on a 9 Gig DVD right now on 360.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:07PM (Unverified) said

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Low res 1280x720 console textures FTL!!!!

High res 1920x1200 PC textures FTW!!!!
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:26PM (Unverified) said

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Is it impossible to compress data on a DVD then uncompress while running the game on the 360?
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 11:21PM Tiptup300 said

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Such tiny requirements for my precious...
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Posted: Apr 17th 2008 2:36AM (Unverified) said

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@ DangerMouse

That's exactly how the 360, and it's father the XBOX, work. Compressed on the disc, uncompressed on the fly.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:06PM Lorben said

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That's not nearly as bad as Assassin's Creed's requirements
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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Uh, actually the final updated assassins creed requirements are not that terrible. My friend runs it great on his mac book pro.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:19PM Lorben said

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The finalized minimum processor requirements for Assassins' Creed are the same as Mass Effect recommended. In my mind, that's a pretty darn chunky requirement.

Also Macbook Pros cost $2K and up, it better be able to play new video games.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:03PM Mr Slayer said

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The processor requirements aren't even that high. You can buy a dual core processor Amd/Intel at dirt cheap prices if you know where to look.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:06PM (Unverified) said

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I have seen multiplatform PC games on full settings, and even if the resolution is higer, I prefer the quality of the 360 games, at only 720p or 1080p.

I prefer a big screen TV than a smaller screen with higer resolution.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:30PM (Unverified) said

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exactly. The setup for console gaming is just >>>>>>>>>>>>> than pc gaming. I'll take relaxing in a soft chair over a hunched, cramped back any and every day.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:35PM (Unverified) said

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And I'll take my $700 office chair over a couch which doesn't prop me up properly and hence gives me back pains. Also, dual screen 24" TFTs @ higher than 1080p > LCD TV.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:08PM (Unverified) said

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I have my gaming rig hooked up to me TV. Works great. A 25$ laptop table from IKEA even makes the the keyboard and mouse comfortable to use on the coach.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:10PM (Unverified) said

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If 360 games actually ran at 1080p, your argument would have merit. But time and time again, games have shown that this console generation just isn't powerful enough to pump out the new hottness at 1080p AND 60 FPS.

If you want true HD and 60 FPS, you're going to need a PC... which you can plug into your huge HD-TV.

Not that I care what other people prefer or do, your argument just annoys me. What you're saying is "I prefer big screens to little screens" except somehow you're making it sound like that means PCs are inferior.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:10PM R V said

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UNLESS YOU HAVE A FUCKING VGA PORT which most hdtvs have. This argument is extremely flawed.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:20PM (Unverified) said

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I really wanted to pick up 360 last summer, but i'm glad i held off since most of the games that i've been interested in have come or are coming to the PC, sans Halo 3 (but it's only a matter of time, i presume). For me anyway, Microsoft trying to bully there way through the PC gaming market may have backfired somewhat.
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Posted: Apr 17th 2008 1:23AM Muffimon said

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$2,000+ for slightly higher resolutions FTW!
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Posted: Apr 17th 2008 2:34AM einhanderkiller said

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You know you can hook up a PC to a TV, right?

Playing Crysis on my 60" Sony HDTV is pretty damn awesome.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:10PM (Unverified) said

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That isn't even outragous by todays standards. Most people are packin far higher resources than that.
http://www.burnedbytheman.com/politics/the-gamestop-conspiracy-the-final-solution/
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:26PM (Unverified) said

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"I hunted down one of the old darker workers" , thanks for the link, unrelated, but i'm going to use it for my African studies class, type it up on my pc that cant run mas effect
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:27PM arttemis said

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"most people"!?!?

Where the hell do you get that idea? Out of 6 of my closest friends, I have the 2nd-most capable computer... and I'm using an AGP X800 Pro video card.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:08PM MarkezJM said

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"I hunted down one of the old darker workers" Cringe inducing.

Even if the author meant that as some kind of humor, it's still, just, eh, cringe inducing.

What an idiot. Did you write that? Please say no.
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Posted: Apr 17th 2008 3:20PM Tiptup300 said

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Computer Makers are destorying the PC game market. Since all their non "gaming" machines come with the most terrible 5 dollar graphics cards. And the "gaming" machines cost about 160% more than they should.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:10PM xThePunisherx said

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This MUST be a joke. Your telling me my computer (Radeon HD 2600 is the MINIMUM? F*CK YOU, BioWare. Still buying your game, but f*ck you.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:19PM Funnydale said

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Sorry, but the HD2600 was never a really good videocard to begin with (at least for games). In fact, I would say that it's considered a low-end card -- even when it was released last year.

The problem is that current ATI cards simply suck for gaming at the moment.

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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:25PM xThePunisherx said

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Hate to tell you this, but i have AGP only, which means this is the best graphics card money can buy for my 5 year old system. How sad....my ps2 worked BETTER after 5 years....
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:35PM Funnydale said

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Actually, it's not the best AGP card you could have bought. The ATI X1950 PRO is a lot faster than the HD2600. Sure, it's a DX9 card, but honestly, that HD2600 is far too weak to take advantage of DX10 anyway.

Rul of thumb: It's always better to buy a high-end last generation videocard than to waste money on a low-end "newer" generation card like the HD2600
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:46PM xThePunisherx said

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and where were you when i was planning all this?

(where were you, when they built the stairway to heaven.....)
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:16PM jackal said

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Liquid Ocelot,

Like others have said, the HD 2600 XT was never really that good of a videocard; I remember reading something to the effect that it had the same number of texture mapping units as a Radeon 9800 (the R300 architecture came about in 2003-2004). Essentially, it'd be a killer card if it were released a half decade ago. Most of the people that bought them did so for their HTPCs since the HD 2600's had UVD, something the HD 2900 XT didn't.

Now, if you still want to stay with AGP, you have two really good options (if you can find them). The first is the Radeon X1950 Pro; it's roughly on par with a Geforce 8600 GTS (a little slower or faster depending on the game). That particular one's pretty hard to find now since few ATI partners want to continue producing a 90 nm chip (everything's now 55 nm) and they tend to go out of stock quickly when they are available. The second option is a Radeon HD 3850 (yes, there's an AGP version). For AGP, it's an absolute screamer of a card.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:50PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, the best AGP card on the market is the Radeon HD 3850, but that is approaching the $200 area, which is way too much for its performance.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 11:53PM jackal said

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Grimble Grumble,

While I agree with your price assessment, the cost of the AGP HD 3850 makes sense. There are very few ATI partners interested in continuing support for a slot standard that essentially died 4 years ago (NVIDIA or its partners don't bother making AGP products at all) and the actual market for AGP solutions is very slim; most of the people interested in buying discrete graphics solutions want new or newer technology and that usually means buying exclusively for the PCIe standard (unless you're trying to replace a very old videocard).

There's only one partner I can think of (don't remember the company's name) that actually makes AGP compatible HD 3850's and it's only making them in small numbers. The AGP X1950 Pro line is hard to find because no one wants to continue producing 90 nm chips when all of ATI's current products use 55 nm technology. Besides, is there any point to an AGP compatible HD 3850? Most people that have AGP equipped motherboards are using single core processors (or older dual core processors); their CPU would be so severely bottlenecking their system while playing a modern game that A) the HD 3850 would have difficulty outperforming the cheaper X1950 and B) the framerates would so low as to make the game downright unplayable.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:14PM (Unverified) said

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hmm I remember when I had it how easy it was to just pop the disc in my 360 and start playing. As for the technical issues, I had none except for the pop-in..really the pop-in was pretty bad. Other than that it ran perfect.

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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:15PM (Unverified) said

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12 GB...

are they for real? i know it's gonna be running at beyond hi def for most people, but seriously...
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Posted: Apr 17th 2008 2:38AM einhanderkiller said

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12GB means the least amount of hard drive space you should have free prior to installation, not how much the game will take up. Crysis recommends 12GB of hard drive space, but takes up 7GB on your hard drive after installing.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:18PM captcarl said

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Twelve gigs of hard drive space is a lot. The requirements aren't THAT steep though. If you think about it, any hardcore PC gamer has a rig that meets those recommended requirements.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:30PM Geist said

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I raised an eyebrow at the really high specs, but jesus, 12 gigs? Why do these console ports take up so much damn space? Didn't Tomb Raider: Anniversary (or Legends, forget which) take up like 9 gigs?
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:40PM Mr Khan said

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Recall that the games are ported straight from DVD9, and the PC version usually has more space-hogging baggage coming with it, from DRM watchdog programs to extra content to other things
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:53PM captcarl said

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Kahn hit it on the head. A good example of this is Orange Box for PC. That was two DVD9s. Orange Box on 360 is one disc.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Gears of War PC takes up 12 GB's. And it took an hour and a half to install. Granted, i'm running a p4 2.4 ghz, 768MB ram, ATI Radeon 9700.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 10:14PM (Unverified) said

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Are you guys serious?

HDs are cheap as hell nowadays. I'll take even higher resolution textures and audio, thank you very much.
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Posted: Apr 17th 2008 12:34PM (Unverified) said

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Dude, an OEM Seagate 500Gb 3Gb/sec 7200 RPM SATA HD is right at $100. If you're hurting for disc space, head to Newegg and throw a second drive in your box.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:21PM (Unverified) said

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well i was planning to upgrade for DoW2
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:24PM HoopyHobo said

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I'll have to get me one of these so-called 'processors'.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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I find it hilarious that people are surprised given that it's a port of an Xbox 360 game (like Bioshock, Assassin's Creed...). What, you thought your Radeon 9800 is about as fast as the 360's GPU? And that the developers will profit enough off of the PC version that it was worth justifying crippling the look of the game to get it to run on your 4 year old PC? Give me a break.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:53PM captcarl said

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Hey now, my 9800XT was awesome and ran most games fine...until that PC blew up.
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Posted: Apr 17th 2008 3:29PM Geist said

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Bioshock ran perfectly fine on my three or four-year old PC (I forget exactly). It's not a question about being an XBox 360 port, it's a question of how far the developer is willing to go to implement some good scalability.
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:26PM jumpshot said

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It's a well known fact that a fully rendered Beyonce needs at least 2000 rams and many more geforces. Spews can be less that 3000. (CPU's)
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:32PM (Unverified) said

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2500 geforces to render the ass alone
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Posted: Apr 16th 2008 9:27PM (Unverified) said

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That... That was a major groaner of a pun there.

My hat be doffed to you, good sirs.
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