EA board meeting ...

"How do we not charge these cry-babies so we don't look like douchebags?"

"I've got it! Make them spend money on pre-orders ... download the demo ... visit our website to boost our traffic and ad revenue ... you know, RANDOM MARKETING BULLSHIT!"

"Give this guy a raise!"

Here's my question - is this game even worth it? With all of this beta playing I haven't read/heard too many reviews. Anyone out there think this game is worth a pre-order? Of course, pre-ordering means you need to make some financial commitment before the reviews come out, which pretty much sucks ass.

Ridiculous, looks like more COD4 for me. I am fully onboard with the boycott of this games and these sleazy tactics. Are the things they ask to do a big deal??? no, but its the principle.

The X3F comments just solidify my position.

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Other than signing up for the newsletter, everything sounds like stuff people would have done anyway.

Why would your stats be interesting at launch? They'd do better getting you to check them after you'd logged X hours of game time, to get you hooked on stat-whoring.

So what do I do if I decide to buy this a month after launch and can't pre-order it? Am I out the shotgun and sniper rifle forever?

I'm already not all that excited about this one, but that could change if the final game turns out to be a lot of fun. Making it impossible to get these things after launch would ensure I don't ever buy it.

Bah! This game is about Mercenaries! Wealthier players are supposed to have an advantage over the poorer ones. You're all a buncha hippies!

X3F doesn't know what they're talking about. The "premium" weapons aren't any more powerful than what's available.

If I remember correctly, EA said that the guns would be unlockable in the $70 special edition via the marketing campaign, and in the $60 regular edition when you hit the max level cap of 25 (and also complete the marketing campaign). This means that you still have to pay the $10 for the special edition, unless you want to try and level up your character when everyone else is running around with better weapons than you!

So instead of paying a premium, you can jump through hoops that include submitting yourself to newsletters and data mining. I expect this game to fail hard.

Wouldn't a better strategy for making as much money as possible be just turning out a great game to begin with so alot of people buy it?

Well I'm not a big city lawyer but…

Don't usually pre-orders cost money? I mean you have to drop 5 to 10 bucks to pre-order a game nowadays so basically if you pre-order you are paying for the weapons anyway. Let’s be honest I don’t see this game selling 1M first day so the pre-order is worth it.

If I ever decide to buy this game and honestly I don’t see that happening unless the Single player mode is badass and it gets a 9.5 overall in meta-critic because seriously it looks generic as hell (I rather buy TF2 again for the PC with Garry’s mod) it will be the gold edition, I’m a fan of collectable crap.

i can imagine a commercial for the guns from the set it and forget it guy.

played the beta of BF BC and to be honest it was a little dissapointing, its not terrible but its doesnt seem hold the magic of the BF series. I know its a beta but from the extensive play tests i have had i cant see any dramtic changes occurring in the way the game feels so close to its release now JUNE, ie controls and weapon s fire etc. Vechicles are done better than previous BF on the 360. I have been sold on all the BF series from the PC (but even those games failed slightly in what the promised but were the best example at the time. Good try DICE but i was expecting a little more this time around, or has EA rushed you.

I think I'm to late to try to change your minds, but I may as try anyway.

I give this a 9.3 the beta. This is just for the beta that has only 2 maps and one game mode and some balance issues. I can't wait till the full game comes!

Its not perfect due to having problems like when you fall, you lose a ton of health (Going to fix they said)

Team killing is pure evil. Its not the TKing. Its when you crash in a helicopter/vehicle, you lose 25 points for each guy that was in with you. So if your in a jeep and its full, but you crash, you just lost over 100 points man! But its hard to crash a jeep, but its easy to crash a helicopter, but it keeps the noobs out of the helicopters :)

Now for the awesome things: This game feels like BF2. Theres this fun feeling about blowing up a house that just feels right. The destruction is awesome. You can take a tank and make ditches in the ground! After your base has been artilleryed to death, you have all these holes that you can crouch into and hide. Its just really fun to do.

The graphics are awesome. Its still is true to BF2 and has the "Fog" so you can only see so far ahead, but its not as bad as BF2 though.

This game is going to be awesome. Forget about the sucky DLC guns! By the time you hit rank 25, you'll have all the awesome unlocks that are way better.

COD4 is still the shiz, but with vehicles and being able to blow the walls out of buildings, I'm looking forward to this. Especially since I was disappointed with Vegas2. I'm not sure why everyone is so mad about getting these unlocks for pre-ordering the game. I always pre-order for a game that I want. May as well get something out it.

I have been playing the beta for the last few weeks and I really enjoy the game personally. I agree with teh guy saying that goldrush better not be the only mp mode cause that would kill it for me also. Over all though the game is fun, tactical, all the glitches that beta testers have been complaining about have already been fixed according to the officle bfbc website. Really the best advice I could give is rent it, and if you really enjoy it buy it....don't be bias like most of the people in this forum bitching about E.A...

if you go to the official website htey have already said they have made the vehicles feel heavier like the tanks feel like a 60 ton fighting machine lol, and they said that they have fixed the bug on the hit detection...so you should be able to take somebody out pretty easly now in the final product.

I was really looking forward to a BF-style game for the 360, but after playing the beta, I realize this wasn't the BF-style game I was hoping for. I thought it was pretty bad.

Graphics were very mediocre: far-away textures remind me a little of the Atari days. Almost literally. The animations and gameplay itself felt extremely bland. There is almost no satisfaction in killing someone and it seems to take an entire clip with a full-auto weapon to do so. You know how in COD4 when you hit someone there's that little "plunk," which makes you feel some satisfaction? BF:BC is missing anything of the sort and when you hit someone it feels more like you've shot a piece of paper that may have blown over with the wind anyway.

But I digress...the maps are way too big for the # of people playing on them: a map quadruple the size of the largest COD4 map needs to have more than 24 people on it, and of those 24, it helps if 18 of them aren't in vehicles.

Blowing stuff up, the chopper and the huge maps are the only things I like about this game, which sucks when you consider all it takes to truly like a game.

A definite and indisputable PASS from me...regardless of this weapon debacle.