NYTimes looks at Wii's software sales problem
On average, Wii owners only buy 3.7 games a year, compared to 4.7 and 4.6 for the Xbox 360 and PS3 respectively. "These new gamers are content with the games they have, often going no further than the Wii Sports game that comes with the machine," the Times author states. "They don't buy new games with the fervor of a traditional gamer who is constantly seeking new stimulation."
Analysts say fixing the problem will require changing the way third parties market their games to the new audience of casual Wii gamers. "Advertising on Game Informer and 1up.com just isn't reaching this audience," Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter said. Advertising on Joystiq.com, though? Always a great idea!
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If you were able to somehow remove the blue ocean crowd and look at your more traditional gamers with Wiis (that sounds funny) obviously the attach rate would be much, much higher.
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I could explain more, but everyone capable of being reasoned with on this issue already knows what's going on, and that's what's key. Yeh don' argue wi' fanboys.
I own a Wii and have only purchased Smash and Galaxy over a span of time that I have purchased well over 12 360 games. I don't see that changing at all in the future. Nintendo games appeal to Nintendo fans, but as far as 3rd party goes there isn't much quality or quantity there at all in my opinion.
Mario Kart Wii, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Party 8, Twilight Princess, Smash Bros, Mario and Sonic, Big Brain Academy, Super Paper Mario, WarioWare, Guitar Hero, Wii Fit, Resident Evil 4, Mario Strikers, Carnival Games, Rayman, Metroid Prime 3, Sonic and the Secret Rings, Resident Evil UC, Lego Star Wars, Red Steel, Rayman 2 and MySims.
There are 25 million sellers on the Wii, vs 11 million sellers on PS3...
And every month the Wii sell more software than Sony and Microsoft.
The game ratio may be lower, but the huge install base compensate that.
By that logic, God of War II should have sold 2 million, because the PS2 has an install base of 120 millions...
I don't why people have the courage to write that the Wii doesnt sell software... month after month, week after week, when they show the numbers, Nintendo outsell everything... since November from last year the started to outsell the 360 in softwares worlwide...
It's underperforming based upon it's hardware sales, but if you look at just the software it's doing great.
...I think I'm actually agreeing with you.
I always wanted to explain here in Joytsiq that, by simple math, the higer the hardware install base, the % of attach ratio is lower...
For example: 4% attach ratio of 24 million Wii, is a lot more than 5% attach ratio and 12 million PS3.
That's all there is to it.
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/mariokartwii
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/granturismo5prologue
I doubt he really cares as well as he is racing online with people and havign a good time, while you try to strain every single ounce out of a demo because the actual game is still many months away.
Planning to buy 3 more (including Wii fit) by or before the summer.
No shortage of Wii-Love over here.
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Wii Software Sales: 113.19 million
Wii Console Sales: 20.13 million
That's a roughly 5.6:1 ratio. But that includes Wii Sports. Taking out the 17.85 million for Wii Sports, you are left with a 4.7:1 ratio.
Remember, these figures are as of December 31 and don't include the spectacular sales of Wii Fit, Brawl, and Mario Kart. Since tie ratios go up over a console's life and not down, I wonder where the New York Times pulled their numbers from.
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"On average, Wii owners only buy 3.7 games A YEAR, compared to 4.7 and 4.6 for the Xbox 360 and PS3 respectively."
Also, how nice would that tie ratio be if companies weren't always bundling?
Buddy ole pal...
The Wii Sucks BALLS plane and simple.
:)
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Shane, any help you can give in clearing this up would be appreciated.
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There are 25 million sellers on the Wii, vs 11 million sellers on PS3...
And every month the Wii sell more software than Sony and Microsoft.
The game ratio may be lower, but the huge install base compensate that.
Oh wait...
That's what you normally do... nevermind.
I personally bought one for myself, my brother and my dad since the system's release. My brother and I usually play the more skill-driven Wii titles or VC games we hadn't played since the years circling their original release... nostalgia.
My dad however, usually plays either WiiSPORTS or TIGER WOODS'07(he would've bought 08, but it wasn't online), despite buying GHOST SQUAD and the WiiZAPPER. He used to play arcade games heavily in his day, and even got the VC version of GALAGA... but these days; his reason for not playing anything more "hardcore" is mostly because he plays it casually. Maybe 3-5 hours at most a week. Thankfully, he's not the type of Wii owner out there buying those damned shovelware or half-ass ported titles (NINJABREAD MAN, CARNIVAL GAMES, FAR CRY, etc.)... but I'd be honestly surprised if I visited and saw him playing NO MORE HEROES.
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I don't want to even imagine how worse it would be if Wii Sports didn't come free with it and Wii Play didn't come with a controller.
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A lot of people buying the Wii are doing so because it is a novelty item. Something that is taken out like a board game when people have parties or during family get-togethers. This consumer isn't one that is going to buy more games because what they have is a novelty item that is good for 1-2 things.
The 'gamers' that buy the Wii want Nintendo games and are happy with Mario-anything. Not to mention, lets be honest here... how many Wii games are actually good?
I'd also go on a limb and say that 'gamers' that have the Wii also have a PS3 or Xbox360 and probably buy cross-platform games on those systems instead of the Wii.
I've said this in other places: I thin it is funny that people latch onto Hardware sales figures as the defacto statistic as to who is winning the Console War. To me it is which console is getting their users to interact and buy more games. The more games that are bought, the more the developers want to make games for that system. The more games for the system, the better it is for the consumer and the better it is for the console.
The Wii is a toy, accept that. Maybe 5-6 years from now, when casual gaming really has a foothold in the normal American psyche, will something like the Wii sell a ton of games.
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So are PS3 and 360, they're all toys. One is a toy disguised as a "Interactive Revolution" and the other two are toys disguised as PCs
Marketing whores! How am I supposed to trust your people's 'unbiased' reviews now?!
=P
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I thought the attach rate was higher on the 360. Wasn't it at 6.7:1 at one point?Another myth busted!
360, no place left but 3rd place. *sniff, sniff
But...XBL..but...down loadable movies...but...GTAIV DLC.
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These numbers are "per year." Not overall where 360 still maintains a hefty lead.