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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:16AM (Unverified) said

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Rogue Trooper also used a nice cover system. It's a shame that it never got the love it deserved.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:16AM (Unverified) said

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Killswitch, lol I had that game on Xbox. It was from Namco and it was a good game. Very difficult though.

I can never get enough of Gears 2 news =) I also loved playing as Dom. His quote after getting a headshot in online MP is one of my favs, "Wussup Bitches!"...pure gold! There definatly is alot of detail in Gears. The first time I saw Doms Maria tatt I was like "NO WAY" very sweet.

I think this game might challenge MGS4 for game of the year.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:59AM (Unverified) said

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A Mr. Thefting of the Gran Auto may have something to say about that.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:15AM (Unverified) said

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Uhh, oops...yeah...forgot about that.

:P

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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 12:03PM Muffimon said

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Like GoW2 will be any better? If there's one thing I've always observed, it's that women in Unreal engines always look like transsexuals (as will undoubtedly Maria). At first, I thought this was unintentional. Now, I'm not so sure.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 2:50PM (Unverified) said

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LOL sugar daddy, I love it. Gears freaking owns MGS4, that game seriously took a huge turn to the gay side. There's a move that lets you search the enemy and pat down their ass and balls, an offensive move where you grab their crotch to make them pass out (why not a choke hold instead?!). Graphically, MGS4 is way behind as well. The game has been delayed so much that it does not look at all impressive anymore in comparison to games like Mass Effect and Bioshock.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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LOL, you know what? Now I do remember that teh ghey part on the demo where he is feeling the PMC up. lulz Still buying though :D

The rooms spinnin, rooms spinnin' cuz a gayness.

- Ricky Bobby
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:18AM (Unverified) said

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Why don't they just come out and admit they've retained Rob Liefeld for the sequel?
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:30AM CarpeD1em500 said

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That'd be tight if they somehow said "okay, you bought GoW2, here is a free code for the SINGLE Brumak "episode" (if you will) of the PC version." It would be the ultimate demo...and for those of us who already played the 360 version to death, it would be a nice little bonus b/c we'd have a chance to finally play that scene.

Maybe thats what he means?? Hell if he really wants to give us the whole game though, I'm down for that also!!
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:30AM (Unverified) said

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I don't want to be a whiny 360 fanboy...I appreciate Epic's efforts in the graphics department and I love Gears of War...

But I really find it astounding and annoying that they won't give us the extra scenes/parts that the PC version of Gears had.

Yeah they've said that those were built on a newer version of their engine. HOWEVER don't they STILL have the OLD version lying around those parts? Surely they could have done the exact same stuff and just added it on as DLC....

But w/e Gears 2 is on the way so I guess by the time they do that (if they ever do that) it'll be too late.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:43AM (Unverified) said

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LOL, its never too late! I still wanna play those extra chapters, the boss battle and the 3 extra MP maps they got =(
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 11:39AM (Unverified) said

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it sounds like you haven't done software development before.

just because they have the code for the 360 version doesn't mean it's easy to get it up to date with the PC version.

all of the game code has to tap into the unreal engine from that version. depending on the changes - and it sounds like there were a reasonable amount - having that same code tap into a newer engine with new functions and removed (possibly) functions is not only a nightmare to integrate, but also a nightmare to have to re-QA.

all of that is not worth the time and cost when they have a second game coming down the line.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:47AM CaramelZappa said

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They really needed a reason to sell the PC version of the game. No matter what someones not happy, if they did release of for the 360 the people who got the PC version would be pissed because they bought it for exclusive content that is no longer exclusive.


If it's any help, the extra chapter wasn't great.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:44AM Nigeria said

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I haven't watched the video, but judging from the Joystiq round up, it's nice to see Capps brush off the stereotype question with such flippancy.

It's good to see great character development. Especially, characterisation which relies on outdated caricature. It really shows maturity and original thinking.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:50AM Pojomofo said

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living cover???? Are they going to kill Justin McElroy and where his skin as a suit?
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 9:54AM (Unverified) said

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For all their talk about "going forward", Epic is sure making huge backward leaps as far as inclusive game design is concerned. "Needs more hot chicks"? Really? And how is Cole Train NOT a stereotype?

Clearly Epic is working hard to keep gaming the white boy's club it is. What a bunch of assholes.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:38AM Vcize said

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OMG AND THE HISPANIC GUY HAD A BIT OF A SPANISH ACCENT TOO!

OBVIOUSLY EPIC ARE RACISTS! AND SO IS ANYONE THAT PLAYS THE GAME BY ASSOCIATION!
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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OH NOES. THEY ARE INCLUDING A GAME WITH HOT CHICKS!

THOSE SEXIST PIGS. HOW DARE THEY!
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 1:23PM Jerk Face said

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I JUST ATE SOME PIZZA ROLLS. THEY WERE REALLY DELICIOUS. SOON I WILL PLAY ME SOME 360. IT WILL PROBABLY BE PRETTY OKAY, AT THE VERY LEAST.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 2:27PM (Unverified) said

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If anything, Gears 2 needs women who wouldn't look like they'd be afraid to break a nail or send you into a crossfire to save their purse or lapdog. "Hot chicks" is the last thing the franchise needs.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 5:04PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not calling them racist or sexist. I'm not trying to be politically correct. What I'm saying is that Capps's remarks are immature and embarrassing.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:23AM (Unverified) said

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i kinda thought his justification of Cole Train not being a stereotype was laughable at best. I mean no real comment other than "Well He's Not" ... blah...

I liked the character, but still i think the first time he appeared i thought "he's gonna sound like X" and sure enough he did.

*yawn*
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:29AM (Unverified) said

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Seriously, WHO CARES if he's a ST? Hes one cool and funny character and I wouldnt want it any other way in the sequal.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:34AM SugarDaddy said

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Living cover? Wouldn't it be dead cover since you just killed the thing that you're taking cover on?
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:37AM (Unverified) said

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I've been playing games with a cover system for years now.

IT'S CALLED A CROUCH BUTTON.

It works, too. You can move freely while crouching, look around for more cover, and anything at all can be hidden behind!

New revolutionary mechanics from GoW2: jumping system.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:48AM 007craft said

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Your comparing the duck button in games to that of a cover system? Have you ever played GOW? Does a duck button let you see around corners, shoot from behind cover, give you a tactical assesment of an incoming enemy and position yourself so your garunteed to win the battle?

You must be a bucket full of shit.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 12:26PM (Unverified) said

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I can do all that myself. Talk about full of shit, you need a button to do all that for you.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:51AM Ranus Studios said

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I was there and didn't feel it was worth getting up early for.

But then, I also had a headache.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 11:00AM jhowlett said

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i love me some kill.switch one of many ps2 games i still play.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 11:30AM modifiedbears said

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Epic keeps talking about free DLC, but there was still a $10 map pack for Gears 1.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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Its free because it is free. You can pay to get the DLC right away or wait 2 months and get it for free. Every developer should follow this model.PSN: MGSROCKS1 GamerTag: QUIXAND
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 1:31PM Jerk Face said

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While ridiculously stereotypical, I thought Cole Train was a light and welcome comedy relief character. He seemed like what an ex-famous athlete in a ruined world would be like. I think crying racist is a little extreme.

I definitely think that black characters in video games too often get strapped in with that stereotypical kind of personality; but I don't think that there is anything wrong with that archetype per se. Just the lack of black characters who AREN'T that archetype.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 2:04PM (Unverified) said

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Well, the justification was essentially that it was mostly the character of the voice actor coming through. Which seems mostly fair enough.

Of course, they did decide to cast a voice actor who really fit the stereotype they wanted to portray... they could also have chosen a different voice actor who could have ad-libbed a different personality.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005355/

That character archtype is fine.... but it would indeed be nice to have some OTHER kinds of black characters occasionally in games.
Thats why i liked the Lance Vance character in vice-city. Having a blatantly gay black character made a nice change...
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 3:02PM (Unverified) said

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The brumak level would have been sweet if they could have only released it on 360. I understand why they never put it on 360 but its a mixed bag of reasons. Regardless of what this guy says, they wanted to give people a reason to buy Gears of War for PC and what better way than give them a literally epic fight thats not on the console version thats already sold 4 million? Then theres the fact that the UE3 for Gears on PC is slightly more updated than the console version. Now it was a very long time ago but i remember reading a comment from Cliff saying that it wasn't impossible for them to put the brumak level on the 360, just that they'd have to recreate it using the old code, rather than the updated code on the PC version. Which obviously isn't worth the effort when they can work on Gears of War 2.

As for Cole being a "sterotype" urban black person. Yeah i can kind of see that but hes also my favourite character in Gears of War. Hes just damn cool, much cooler than Marcus or Dom which brings me to the point why the developers want to focus on Dom since no one i knew really cared about the guy?

But yeah, really looking forward to Gears 2. Hopefully the online multiplayer interface isn't complete trash this time. One thing i'd love is if Epic went and released a final patch for Gears on 360 and fix all the horrible glitches and achievement problems it has.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 4:13PM jumpshot said

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I liked Marcus, but honestly, he was pretty flat compared to Dom and Cole. Dom was a better developed character imo, and I liked him alot. And Cole Train was the best. I see what they mean by stereotyping, but I like him that way! Who better to go into battle with than a crazy football star?

I guess the question is, does anyone here who's also black find Cole Train's character demeaning? If so, then yeah, change him. But I find him really fun.

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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 5:26PM aristokrat said

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I can't quit you Dom.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2008 10:18PM (Unverified) said

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Cole Train should have been voiced over by Morgan Freeman and should have been overly analytical. Maybe a black man's version of Gordon Freeman. You know, the stereotypical black guy who isn't a stereotypical black guy because someone would say, "That black guy in that game is so stereotypical!"

I would love to hear Cole Train talk about inane things like bullet trajectory, blood spatter patterns and the physiological differences between humans and their alien enemies.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:49AM CaramelZappa said

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A black version of Gordan Freeman? Gordan Freeman doesn't talk...
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 7:43AM (Unverified) said

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A black guy named "Coal"? Nothing wrong with that. ;)

And nice to see them finally admitting they ripped off Kill.switch. It always bugged me seeing uninformed gamers and reviewers rattle on about Gears' "innovative" cover system.
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 12:43PM (Unverified) said

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We need more badass butch female characters in video games. Like Vazquez from Aliens but even more butch if possible. Cliffy B recently said that he wants to make GOW2 more girlfriend friendly and he thinks that he can accomplish that by simply just not making any female characters with ginormous breast and having better options for adjusting the difficulty level of the game. Well I guess thats fine but we need more. We need bad ass hardcore butch female soldiers in the squad armed to the teeth to take on some locust, not just some bi-standing female character with moderate breast size that you dont even get as a playable character.
I say strap on some amour on Maria Santiago and give her a lancer so she can kick some locust ass! Well I dont want to pick on GOW to much its still a great game, so pretty please with sugar on top, please Cliffy B give us kick ass women for GOW2 If it really is humanitys last stand then everyone should stand up and fight!

Check out this link for more info on Cliffy B intentions for GOW2:

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/05/cliffy-b-gears.html

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