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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:36PM Pojomofo said

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That is a helluva thing to imply
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:37PM Snipermike said

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Since its the last one they might as well go out with a "bang"
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:38PM Pojomofo said

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I see what you did thar!!!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:36PM (Unverified) said

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1: we've seen snake putting a gun against his head, wich should be enough to to have "suicide references".

2: I dont think child rape is a real topic of the game, because developers will keep away from such things. I guess its just briefly mentioned, or hinted in a cutscene, telling how the war ripped the country apart.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:45PM (Unverified) said

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He didn't hold the gun to his head thought. He was being forced to hold the gun to his head.... I love that game, I miss it
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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Kojima's a total nut we should expect this kind of shit from him, anyway that kind of shit is sick and I'll make sure to warn others it's in there.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 6:14PM Geist said

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"I dont think child rape is a real topic of the game"

There is not a single game out there that could possibly pull off child rape being an actual topic of a game. Mentioned briefly as a terrible side effect of war, yes, but as a topic of the game itself? MMmmmmnah.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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i hope it's not as disturbing as the whole incest thing between Otacon and his mother...
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:30PM (Unverified) said

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that with his stepmother? It's been a while since I played MGS2...I need to play it through again before MGS4.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 7:05PM octoberasian said

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I thought that it was between Otacon and his sister. O.o
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:37PM Pojomofo said

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Is it jsut me or could Snake use some Botox??
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:43PM (Unverified) said

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You ***hole. I specifically didn't want to know this kind of spoiler info, therefore I avoided all the news on other sites about what BBFC listed. The other sites had the kindness to not list the points like you did in their bloody title.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:09PM ThornedVenom said

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Monday morning was 2 days ago.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:44PM SheppyReturns said

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MGS4 just keeps getting better and better.

Hot Cola mod anyone?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:00PM Shmil said

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Wow...wow... that is so wrong, so so very very wrong. But there's something that's more wrong, I'm still laughing.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:10PM ThornedVenom said

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Woah Sheppy, we don't want any cross-eyed children here...
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:46PM (Unverified) said

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Joystiq, by reporting this "news", you have stooped to a new low, even by your previously disgracful standards.

How does it feel to reach a new low?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:50PM (Unverified) said

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Not as good as a reach-around.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:51PM Pojomofo said

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dont like it, go elsewhere
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:01PM SheppyReturns said

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New lows are terrific. Take, for example, a track star. He can set a new record on the 100 meter dash. Which is fine and good. But I can set a new low by raping family members while he's tied to a chair. Now which is more fun?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:02PM Shmil said

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Are you kidding me? Low? This is a video game blog, they make posts on video game related news. I guess you're upset that CNN has been reporting on the Mormon polygamist raids that strait up tell you there was underage sex.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 9:00PM Ethan said

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Actually I agree a bit. Taking things out of context is part of the problem, though you aren't sensationalising to the extent of Fox. This stuff happens a lot in war, it's kind of one of the main theme in the film 'The Kite Runner,' which got a lot of awards and is considered quite important.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:46PM (Unverified) said

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Did it not go through the mind of the idiot news poster that these maybe spoilers? I mean, the suicide may very well relate to Solid Snake, you jerk.
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Posted: Apr 24th 2008 12:38AM Neowyrm said

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You're the only person on the planet who didn't know this already.... :|
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:47PM Neebs said

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Ew, that little monkey thing?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:49PM (Unverified) said

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I wanted child rape. :(
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:55PM (Unverified) said

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[+1]

i laffd
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 10:13PM (Unverified) said

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Zeus.:Pedo
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Posted: Apr 24th 2008 4:18PM (Unverified) said

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Yup. Sure am- love doin' them babies up the ass.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:49PM (Unverified) said

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XBox 360 Special Edition, anyone?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:55PM (Unverified) said

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Take the points out of the title. Damn. Most people don't want the game ruined. K thnx.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:58PM (Unverified) said

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YOU PUT THE STORY POINTS IN THE M***** F****** TITLE, THUS MAKING THEM TOTALLY UNAVOIDABLE TO THOSE WHO DIDN'T WANT ANY SPOILERS! IF YOU HAVE ANY SENSE, YOU'LL CHANGE THE TITLE AND GIVE A SPOILER WARNING TO THE MGS FANS VISITING THE SITE THAT DON'T WANT INFO LIKE THIS KNOWN TO THEM. I CAN TELL YOU, IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THE 'SUICIDE' RELATES TO A BIG CHARACTER IN THE GAME, AND NOT SOME MINOR CHARACTER, THEN I'LL NEVER VISIT THIS RAT-ASS SITE AGAIN!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:59PM Neebs said

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SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:59PM (Unverified) said

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LOUD NOISES!!!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:00PM (Unverified) said

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Having your period huh?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:12PM ThornedVenom said

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CAPS IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:13PM Shmil said

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I AM ANGRY! YOU CAN TELL BECAUSE I'M TYPING WITH THE CAPS LOCK ON!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks for starring out 'MOTHER FUCKING'.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 7:09PM (Unverified) said

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It took all my self-control not to reply like that. haha. Its fucking lame. All you can say is its not enough evidence for anything too specific. Nothing is technically ruined, but it doesn't help. Also, don't watch any of the new trailers. There is a HUGE fucking spoiler in the newest one.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 11:52PM MemphisLeak said

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Wouldn't it be funny if 'suicide' and 'implied child rape' summed up MGS4.

No? Ok, back to my dungeon.
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Posted: Apr 24th 2008 4:03AM SSUK said

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Nothing says "Get off the internet, now" quite like block capitals and self-censoring.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 4:58PM (Unverified) said

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Is the child rape in real time or is it in a cut scene?

PS: This is dependent on whether I buy a PS3 or not.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:02PM SheppyReturns said

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This part better use motion controls, that's for damn sure...
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:13PM ThornedVenom said

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Never been a better time for Dualshock 3.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:00PM (Unverified) said

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As the Kyle says, Kojima Productions clarified this. It is not rape, it is "child trauma". Not only that, but it's probably something we knew about two games ago.

*spoiler... maybe*



Sunny, the only child we've seen in the game and daughter of Olga Gurlukovich, was kidnapped by the Patriots or agents thereof just before the events of MGS2, which is why Olga was fighting Snake on the tanker. The closest thing we have to a confirmed agent of the Patriots is Ocelot, and getting kidnapped by him sounds pretty fucking traumatic.



*end spoiler*

The difference is that she's actually in this game instead of briefly mentioned.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:03PM (Unverified) said

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I always knew old Snake would be pedo.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:14PM ThornedVenom said

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MGS4: the heart-shattering "love" story between an old soldier and a child.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 7:58PM Sora said

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I guess thats why one of the songs on the MGS stage in Brawl is "MGS4:Theme of Love".
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Posted: Apr 24th 2008 12:02AM Ethan said

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Guns of the pederasts!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2008 5:04PM (Unverified) said

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@ Syric Zero, the first trailer showed Snake holding a gun in his mouth saying 'he must wipe his genes from the face of the earth' or words to that effect.

The 'child rape' now mentioned as child trauma is probably something to do with Sunny.

It probably isn't anything to do with rape or anything like that.

More likely it is in regards to the fact that she was held by the patriots, away from her mother (Olga). We know that she was saved at some point due to her being with Otacon and Naomi in the trailers.

So no real spoilers in this, only thing slightly spoilerish is that 'references to suicide' which could imply 'no suicide'.
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