Zero Punctuation has zero tolerance for Brawl

Huh? You don't have to play all the way through to unlock Sonic... I have him unlocked right now and neither me nor my daughters are anywhere *near* being finished with the single-player stages. We've just played a bunch of two- and three-player and "A new enemy approaches" occasionally (or whatever its says...)

Lol, right. I got Sonic after playing some classic modes. He was one of the earlier characters I unlocked. I told my b/f I had had him and he was like "already?!?"

Also, I don't know why people keep complaining that they have to unlock stuff in single player. They DON'T. All of the characters (and maybe the stages? I dunno) can be unlocked through vs. mode.

Well, to unlock Sonic by playing vs. mode, you'd have to play for the 10 hours, which Yahtzee DID complain about.

Please, if you set up some fun, ultra short 50 HP Matches or Sudden Death matches, you could get to that number in one fun-filled time period of play

Seriously, if you turn the CPU on weak and set their damage to 150%, you can unlock every character in the game in, I dunno, 2 hours?

I wasn't pissed about unlocking Sonic.

I was pissed because he appears in one miserable cinematic at the end of the game with no back-story whatsoever. Like if the developers forgot to place him or just tried to ignore him until they realize they were forced to place him into the game.

Seriously they tease us with Snake at the first fourth of the game and we don’t get to play with him until part 3 of 4.Olimar appearance was pretty pointless as well put he appears in more scenes than Sonic.

Seriously I was hoping more for Sonic than just a miserable cutscene. There is also the issue with the other unlockable characters such as Toon Link, Jigglypuff and wolf which never were introduced in the main storyline and that just plain sucks.

I can't help but laugh ridiculously hard whenever someone complains about the story in a fighting game. When they complain about the story in a massive crossover fighting game, well, I think I might need to go lie down.

"I was pissed because he appears in one miserable cinematic at the end of the game with no back-story whatsoever. Like if the developers forgot to place him or just tried to ignore him until they realize they were forced to place him into the game."

Well...that's basically what happened.

Sonic was apparently the last character added in long after all the initial planning had gone down. The deal to put Sonic in Brawl was more or less made after SSE was already started and, it seems, they felt they couldn't go back and work him in some other way. Hence, Sonic appears at the very end of SSE.

Sucks doubly so because that means no Mario and Sonic co-op levels or scenes in SSE. All the more reason we need a stand alone Smash Bros Adventure game with Sonic.
...and a story that actually makes sense and doesn't need a freakin' 10 page post on it's official website to explain what the Hell was going on.

"I was pissed because he appears in one miserable cinematic at the end of the game with no back-story whatsoever. Like if the developers forgot to place him or just tried to ignore him until they realize they were forced to place him into the game."

Tabuu was gathering worlds etc, and it just so happened to open a rift to the Sega universe. The reason why it makes sense that Sonic doesn't show up until Tabuu does his thing is because you can't have good crossovers with different universes (Nintendo and Sega have their own respective universes) until a cataclysmic event happens. At least, it just doesn't make sense to me why Sonic would be in a Nintendo world/universe. All of these different franchise characters coexisting make sense because Nintendo established it under the premises of the Smash universe. It can be seen as a parallel universe related to each characters' worlds/universes, but it may not even have an effect. Smash is probably an alternate timeline. Sonic was never a Nintendo character, but everyone else is.

I hope I explained this to you, because it's really complex D: If you really need to, look up things in the Marvel universe, or Earth 616.

Anyway, I think that was a sufficient backstory. Sonic is a hero, so he would naturally try to defeat the villain responsible for putting his world in danger. The rules about universes explains why characters from other universes, such as Sonic, would finally appear after the entrance to Subspace was opened and Tabuu gathered all of the locations.

Or are you complaining that he just didn't have that great of a cameo?

It CAN be a button masher. That's the problem. :P

But can you lose to someone who just randomly presses buttons? Yes you can. With some of the guys I just hit buttons because I don't know the moves yet, but I still seem to have about the same win ratio that I have when I play with Link or Snake, except when I play as Kirby, I smash with Kirby.

Then you're pretty bad at the game.

Your friends must suck if they can lose when you just mash buttons.
Smash Bros. is about strategy, knowing your moves and when to use them, and as Nate from NOA said in Nintendo Power, doing stuff you'd never expect at a split second.

"keep up the great work"

Well if you call Cheap Shots, illegitimate points and slander "good work", then by all means : Keep up the great work Yahtzee. I hope you learn to act like you have a pair.

No need to act like the guy came to your house and broke your copy of the game, Warlock. Smash Bros. was made first and foremost for Nintendo fanboys, and it just happens to be simple enough and packed with enough widely known characters that a lot of non-gamers can enjoy it, too. If you don't like Nintendo then you're not going to like Smash Bros., period. And who cares if someone else doesn't like the game, so long as you like it?

TheWarlock don't you think you are exaggerating.

It was funny and everyone their own. Just because he didn't like Brawl as much as you do you don’t have to wear your “Fuck Yahtzee” shirt.

Also fanboys wanted him to review this game (I guess) so there. Is hard to complain about games like COD4 or Brawl not because they are perfect but attempting to do so only results in insults and lost of your fanbase also that they are so popular that doing a funny review about them is pretty pointless.


FYI I loved the game except that time when Ganon was a b*tch and I was very pissed off and I kind of broke my Wii and it still in repair :(

Mr. ESC

I was just saying how wrong it really is to point out a game's "Flaws" and not focus on the good points at all. I'm frankly appalled at your lack of Brawl Pride if you can just sit idly by while some douche like Yahtzee exploits every single bad thing about [arguibly] the best Wii game.

Good day.

For the record: I totally disagree with many of Yahtzee's criticisms as well. But I also respect his right to express his honest opinion of every game he reviews.

Yahtzeee is a straight shooter. He says exactly what's on his mind 100% of the time, regardless of what others think. That's why his reviews are always so bloody awesome.

Oh. My. Gawd.

Don't come on WII Fanboy to flame and expect good results. Go back to PS Fanboy or w/e and leave us alone.

Hitting a man who wants you to hit him will only make him come back for more, Overlord.

Great advice. xP

Exactly what I expect from you idiots- Automatically assuming I am a microsoft or sony slave or some shit. I play whats good, not try and be faithful to one shitty company or the next.

He knew who Marth was, he was making the point that 90% of the people that buy this game really have no idea who the fuck Marth is.

The truth is that I didn't know who the f** was Marth as well when I played Melee(He is in melee right or it was Ike).

Since I have never touched a Fire Emblem game is hard to know who the f*ck is him.Same with Earthbound characters,I was a PC gamer back in the day.

A PC Gamer with a name like Mr.ESC? xP

Hell, I didn't even know who Marth was either in Melee.
I knew Fire Emblem existed, but I never played the darn thing (until GC and Wii). Sorry, but that's just how most of us are.

If people think back to NINTENDO ALL-STARS... they'll easily go like "What? Who's Marth? Who's Olimar? And who the heck is Lucario?"...
As far as people are concerned, Pikachu's the only Pokemon that exists.

As for SSE... who the heck has time to play with you through the whole thing? Unless you're a hardcore gamer that's a bum that sleeps in your friend's house, it's rare that you'd both rather play SSE than a Brawl.


And fact is: SSB CAN be a button-masher. And nothing wrong with losing to a button-masher. If you lose against a button-masher, it doesn't mean you suck, it means you're not a pro-gamer... and that's nothing to be ashamed of.
Yes, it can have combos, but if you compared the game to say... King of Fighters... it is HEAVILY considered as a button masher, since you can connect combos by randomly pressing buttons. (actually a better example would be Yu Yu Hakusho on the PS2... the game was awful unless you MASTERED combos... you literally CANNOT FIGHT AT ALL unless you do combos... seriously, not exaggerating)

Sooo... the video has valid points.

"And nothing wrong with losing to a button-masher. If you lose against a button-masher, it doesn't mean you suck, it means you're not a pro-gamer... and that's nothing to be ashamed of."

I will, despite whatever anyone else labels it, always laugh at someone who trys their best, but loses to a button masher.... HAHAHAHAHHA! How does anyone NOT get that? FUNNY!

Marth is the main character from the first Fire Emblem on the famicom.

Thats because fanboys actively search out criticism of it, just to get offended.

Yep, Poison. In fact, ALL FANS do that.

...especially with bands, yeesh.

It is a button masher. Compare it to any fighting games that have masters- youll see a master will beat a button masher in most other fighting games more than SSBB

I'd figure its the other way around, actually. A button masher in another game might accidentally activate the combo of death, whereas a Smash master will crush a button master consistently

@Poison: That's easily explainable - most fighting games are too "different" for most people, and have unfamiliar and strange characters...
A game such as this, easily gets players, of all-kinds. Sooo... you see a lot more people who call themselves "pro" and lose.

Nothing wrong with losing to button-mashers, it's funny. :P