Smash Bros. Brawl finally hits Europe June 27, WiiWare on May 20
by Ross Miller 
{ Apr 24th 2008 at 9:55AM }
Nintendo also announced that WiiWare will launch May 20, just 8 days behind the US. The Nintendo Channel, which will allow you to download DS demos and game trailers, is coming May 30. Mark your calendars, Smash Bros. Brawl is now only 64 days away.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Undead Priest @ Apr 24th 2008 10:00AM
Now the wait until Nintendo of Europe delays Brawl.
Bleu @ Apr 24th 2008 10:58AM
WOW! Sorry my fellow European gamers this is unacceptable on nintendo's part. They shouldnt do things like this. Dont worry after about 2 weeks you wont be playing the game just like most of us. LOL! its true.
Nigeria - MK: 0430-8491-9123 @ Apr 24th 2008 10:59AM
You must have a really poor attention span, or well too much free time.
arrrgh @ Apr 24th 2008 1:35PM
+1 sad times for that random internet kid
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 24th 2008 10:03AM
Nice...
By the way... the Nintendo Channel will be available in May 30. Now we will be able to download DS Demos directly from the Wii.
Nigeria - MK: 0430-8491-9123 @ Apr 24th 2008 10:10AM
Yeah, I think Ross mentioned that somewhere.
PojoMofo @ Apr 24th 2008 10:30AM
Dear Nintendo,
Welcome to 2007
Regards,
Sony
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 24th 2008 10:33AM
Nintendo released that channel on Japan since last year.
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 11:02AM
The 360 did it in 2005 and the PS3 in 2006.But it's pretty awesome that atleast Nintendo is trying.
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 24th 2008 11:08AM
The 360 did it? I think you didnt undestand...
The Nintendo Channel allows Wii users to watch trailers for games and download demos and game patches for the Nintendo DS. The channel works in a similar way to a DS Download Station that are on stores.
Users can also rate games only if you have played the game for more than 1 hour, and a search feature is also available to assist users in finding new games to try. Videos such as interviews, trailers, and commercials are also available on the channel.
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 24th 2008 11:11AM
You transfer the DS Demos from the Wii to the DS via local WiFi.
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 24th 2008 11:14AM
It's a pretty awesome channel... here's a demostration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yxnx0UOnCs
Go White Sox and Go other Team @ Apr 24th 2008 11:16AM
Fernando,
The DVD9 limited space is becoming an issue. The new game from ID software will ship on 2 discs for 360 and 1 BD for the PS3.
Plus, read this article with one of the founders and creators of GTA. Look at what he has to say about Microsoft using DVD as the storage medium. Basically, your argument that the best games are on DVD will not be useful for much longer.
http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=6694
4MyFriends @ Apr 24th 2008 11:21AM
That article is nothing but bullshit. I bet if he was saying DVD was good enough you wouldn't be linking it.
deaftly @ Apr 24th 2008 11:26AM
whats so hard about swapping disc's?
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 11:27AM
Fernando;Ah, I thought we were talking about demo's in general.Does the channel allow you to keep the demo on your DS Lite? The download stations only allowed to play it until you shut your DS Lite off. Which was an annoyance back when I used them..But now I use flashcarts to test DS Lite games to see if they're good enough to be worth buying, if they are I buy them, but I keep playing the flashcart version (convenience, able to carry my whole came collection on one cart).
Go White Sox and Go other Team @ Apr 24th 2008 11:28AM
Well duh, give this man a prize. If the article did indeed say that DVD was enough, then linking said article would NOT support my argument now would it.
Why do you think the article is BS? These words are coming from one of the founders of one of the all-time best selling and groundbreaking franchises.
Yes, you are right, he's full of shit, he does not know what he is talking about. Silly me.
Go White Sox and Go other Team @ Apr 24th 2008 11:33AM
@deaftly,
My reasons for not wanting to switch out discs is not because it is hard to do, rather because I find it unnecessary. Take a TV remote for example, it is not harder to get up and change the channel on the TV, but it is annoying and unnecessary. I think if I were a developer I would not want to worry about how to fit my game on a last-gen storage medium.
JakubK666 (Ninja Defence Force) @ Apr 24th 2008 11:34AM
@Go white socks
Not it's not an issue.You're just spoiled.If you're too lazy to swap a disc every 10 hours...you really are a lazy ass!
I'd rather have 5 dvd's full of great gameplay than a 6-hour half-assed shooter.
rv @ Apr 24th 2008 11:45AM
The reason you can't sawp disks for a game like gta is because its an open world. How annoying would it be to change disks after you cross one portion of the island?
PojoMofo @ Apr 24th 2008 1:22PM
the thing I dont like about it is that you lose the demo when you shut the DS off, but that is more a hardware limitaion.
The review system is cool.
arrrgh @ Apr 24th 2008 1:40PM
BD is just making devs THAT much more FUCKING lazy. What happened to GOOD compression algorithms? What happened to ACTUALLY working to optimize code? It's a joke. If kkreiger can fit into 100kb, the sky is the limit.
don't give devs an excuse to be lazy just because sony wants to push their format. It's a slippery slope.
Mr.ESC @ Apr 24th 2008 5:09PM
I normally wouldn’t reply to you Fernando but I feel bored.
“The Nintendo Channel allows Wii users to watch trailers for games and download demos and game patches for the Nintendo DS”.
Oh that’s like the service the PSP had like from the start and you don’t even need a console to download the content.
“Users can also rate games only if you have played the game for more than 1 hour, and a search feature is also available to assist users in finding new games to try. Videos such as interviews, trailers, and commercials are also available on the channel”.
Rate games huh. Sounds good but about the rest Sony did it.
So in conclusion is like what Sony offers except you can rate things.
SKI @ Apr 24th 2008 5:17PM
You may need to eventually swap discs on the 360, but you will never have to on the Wii. And why was this brought up?
Nigeria - MK: 0430-8491-9123 @ Apr 24th 2008 10:07AM
You know, to be honest, my excitement for Brawl has already reached saturation point. It's really hard to maintain that level of excitement for an extended period of time. A forever grinning bear.
I'll still buy it, but the months of June/July have a load of good DS games coming out. Games which have now taken precedence over Brawl. It'll probably be an August purchase, now.
But with 64 days to go I might change my mind.
Nigeria - MK: 0430-8491-9123 @ Apr 24th 2008 10:08AM
MC Hammer is a killer when it comes to music.
He's got my respect. +1
Yourself @ Apr 24th 2008 10:08AM
I read that second part as Smash Bros. coming to WiiWare on May 20. That seemed pretty funny, considering the Wii's potential for digital distribution.
Roto13 @ Apr 24th 2008 10:09AM
It uses motion sensing.
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 24th 2008 10:11AM
The fact that the best PS3 titles doesn't need a high capacity disc indicates that Bluray is a gimmick.
The best PS3 titles are multiplatforms, and they fit perfectly on a DVD9.
deaftly @ Apr 24th 2008 10:15AM
Nice Fernando.
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 10:20AM
No, the best PS3 titles, are Uncharted, Ratchet, and Warhawk. The Former two, do use Bruray to a large extent.COD4 is the only multiplatform PS3 game that compares to those.And the Wii's main feature most important is waggle, Bruray isn't that PS3's only main feature, though it is one of them.Don't talk about a console till you own it Fernando.
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 24th 2008 10:21AM
Top 5 PS3 titles with the best average score, according to Metacritic (in order):
Gran Theft Auto IV
Call of Duty 4
Oblivion
Rock Band
The Orange Box
Not a single exclusive game on the top 5, and all of those games are not bigger than 9GB.
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 10:21AM
Name123, in no way is Brawl watered down fighter, it's a different type of fighter, and it's one of the best fighters out there.And it's easily the best party fighter.
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 10:25AM
Ignore teh above post please, the reply system screwed me up.
PojoMofo @ Apr 24th 2008 10:33AM
Its been doing that for me for a while now too. +1 for your efforts
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 10:24AM
Those aren't the PS3's best games though, don't you get it? Those are the best games available on the PS3, but not the PS3's best games.And Name123, SSBB is in now way a watered down fighter, it's just a different type of fighter, and it's one of the best fighters out there, and it's easily the best party fighter.
Backward_Z @ Apr 24th 2008 7:27PM
I was looking at the picture and was thinking... "Is that a penis on Kirby's head?" and then I realized it was Pit's arm.
GearSecond! (aka AwesomeStuff) @ Apr 24th 2008 8:15PM
Thats gross dude.
name123 @ Apr 24th 2008 10:34AM
I doubt SSBB would be so popular if it used original characters. Mario vs Link is a gimmick, like Aliens vs. Predator or Dracula vs Frankenstein.
GearSecond! (a.k.a AwesomeStuff) @ Apr 24th 2008 10:43AM
I think you're a gimmick. A bad one at that.
SillyShiggy WSN (if it had one): lovsatan @ Apr 24th 2008 10:45AM
Hey name, how does it feel to know that the Wii is destroying gaming as we know it? The next consoles will be underpowered and waggle-controlled, and hardcore games will grind to a halt. The industry will continue to run backwards until ten years from now when in-game graphics will recall the Amiga days. Then gaming will die completely, many will be out of a job, the economy will be in shambles, dogs and cats will live together, and you may actually have to quit gaming and find a new hobby.
I suggest quilting.
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 10:53AM
Wait, he's got a little bit of a point.If SSBB was not made by Nintendo, and it didn't contain characters that people had such an emotional interest. Obviously it would be less popular.Would that make the game itself any less awesome though?No, obviously not.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 24th 2008 10:54AM
I can disprove your theory, name123.
Power Stone 2, an insanely fun Dreamcast gem. Didn't have recognizable characters (unlike the equally badass Cannon Spike which gave Cammy two uzis and rollerblades) but it's considered a cult hit.
Emophia @ Apr 24th 2008 10:59AM
Ah, but as awesome as it was (I have both the DC and the PSP versions, freaking loved the game) it was nowhere near as popular as any of the Super Smash Bros games.I think Name123 is right in this case, but I don't think he has much of a point.Like really, popularity doesn't make a good game good or a bad game bad.
Jfk Aok @ Apr 24th 2008 11:01AM
I'm pretty sure you proved his point pretty well with that Power Stone reference....oh wait, you were trying to do the opposite!? really!?
Jfk Aok @ Apr 24th 2008 11:14AM
now a days, hype MAKES the game. People are so predetermined whether they'll like the game or not that yes, popularity = quality. It's called perception. Video games are like pop music. Popular "musician" = quality music by means of oversaturation of the song and the artist.
If you read any reviews of halo 3, half life 2, and of course smash bros melee AND brawl, you'll see they don't even bother to even TOUCH the obvious serious and not so serious flaws of these games. It's about pedigree and hyping yourself to see things as what you've expected and what they are. Most consumers have the "fan-like-excitement" of a 5 year old and you really can't discuss their "favorite toys" without them getting angry...kinda like a 5 year old clings to things.
To me Nintendo made one great game this generation thus far...Super Mario Galaxy...ironically less popular of a hit. Well, you can argue Wii Sports was great for many reasons too even though i was underwhelmed personally. Everything else has been hype (and thus popularity and sales) and pedigree over substance thus far. Galaxy gave me the hope and Brawl knocked it down hard.
Skelly @ Apr 24th 2008 9:37PM
Looking at this name123 guy's post history, I think he likes picking fights.
Paviel @ Apr 25th 2008 8:23AM
For American and European intents and purposes, Marth, Roy, and Lucas ARE original characters.
SinHarvest @ Apr 24th 2008 10:43AM
Im a big fan of fighting games, 2d and 3d alike. I was skeptical about brawl when i first heard of it. I thought the same thing the average person over 18 thinks when they first see it. That this game is a gimicky fighting game for 13 year olds who dont take fighters seriously, and how deep can a fighting game be with 2 buttons. But i met some new gamer friends that played melee and i thought why not ill try it out. Besides the game has a very competetive fighting scene and brawl was just gonner be bigger, if not the most competetive fighting game out there(sadly i thought).
Anyways long story short i really got into it and as a fighter the game as very good dept. Its not really combo based but higher level play takes very good DI to be good. I have some quirks with it. For instance some characters are better than some at taking out others at higher play. Anyways what im tryin to say is i was really impressed with this game and id go so far as to say its one of the better fighting games out there quality and gameplay wise. I just hope i dont get disapointed with the new soul calibur and street fighter games coming out.
FOXHOUND @ Apr 24th 2008 10:47AM
That's why I have trouble taking people seriously when they denote both the Wii Remote and SIXAXIS controller as innovative/revolutionary. Neither are anything remotely new(pun intended)technology-wise, and yes, *both* are gimmicks. They were thrown to the masses as a hook and reel to get their attention away from the X360 that had taken the market earlier. If the Wii or PS3 control scheme are among a person's main reasons for buying or defending either system, I can't help but (dis)regard that as lame. The Wii waggle isn't entirely immersive, and damn if you don't look like you're an English nanny shaking a baby when using the SIXAXIS controller(especially when playing FOLKLORE).
As for Europe getting 'BRAWL later, have fun with the tedious Subspace mode, let alone getting the trophy of the last boss. ¬_¬"