Metal Gear Online beta patched again (we're so close)
by Christopher Grant 
{ Apr 25th 2008 at 10:28AM }
We'd love to tease them and suggest they add more than one "server" but the patch's release note also contained the following apology: "We would like to first offer our most sincere apologies to our customers who had waited eagerly for the start of the 'Metal Gear Online Premiere Beta' test for all the inconvenience and confusion caused thus far." You know what, Konami? We wanted to stay angry with you, but we can't pout at a classy apology like that. We know it's a beta and we know you're taking this opportunity to iron out all the kinks before the real deal starts June 12. But hey, as long as we're still working out the kinks, might we humbly suggest you lose the ridiculous Konami ID + Game ID + PSN ID requirement?
[Via PS3 Fanboy]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 25th 2008 10:31AM
They should patch the 665p and the 30fps...
http://www.ripten.com/2008/04/25/mgo-resolution-665p-equivalent-and-30fps/
=p
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 10:40AM
Ditto for Halo 3....
Wait, we're getting nitpicky over resolution from a Wii fanboy?!? Hydrosyphalic Magneto is upset with you...
el serpiente @ Apr 25th 2008 10:40AM
SECOND!!!!!11
el serpiente @ Apr 25th 2008 10:40AM
Damn...
cc123 @ Apr 25th 2008 10:42AM
Wiinies should keep their mouths shut about anything that has to do with graphics this entire generation.
Vidikron (FU) @ Apr 25th 2008 10:42AM
When's Nintendo patching their games?
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 25th 2008 10:42AM
But I never claimed that the Wii can run over 480p... I'm saying because the PS3 has "the Cell" and his 4d Graphics and full 1080p HD propaganda.
milestailsprowe @ Apr 25th 2008 10:47AM
I love you fernando for you jokes they always make me laugh an dI can use that to smash into my MGS fanboy friends all day
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 10:48AM
Oh god, I fear my sarcastic rebuttal may invoke console warriors....
xFenixKnightx @ Apr 25th 2008 10:54AM
I downloaded this patch last night and man it was quick. Not even 5 minutes, I was gonna leave it on all night so I can just wake up and turn it off but it zipped right thru! Happy Panda =)
About the resolution and fps...well needless to say I kinda saw this coming, even from the trailer that shows in game footage it doesnt look as good as COD4. Im still playing this mother though, cant wait! Might be my first PS3 allnighter =P
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 25th 2008 10:58AM
Call of Duty 4 has ver good graphics, high polygon count, great lighting and effects, and superb sound.
But it runs at native 600p...
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 25th 2008 11:00AM
And even at 600p it looks amazing... but by the MGSO footage, it doesn't look near as good as Call of Duty 4.
Mr.ESC @ Apr 25th 2008 11:03AM
"Oh god, I fear my sarcastic rebuttal may invoke console warriors...."
Somewhere in Hell...
"Um Leonidas did you hear something?"
"Nah and I don't care,I'm dining".
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 11:04AM
Actually, Fernando... if you read more post mortems, you'd discover Call of Duty 4 has a lower polycount than Call of Duty 2 (Infinity Wards last COD game). This is something they've said themselves. Gotta love what the advent of normal mapping can accomplish.
Basically you have, thanks to normal mapping, 8K-10K tri characters looking like their 3M tri counterparts out of Zbrush/Mudbox and a vast majority of people cannot tell the difference.
Fernando Rocker @ Apr 25th 2008 11:07AM
Well... of they are using normal mapping, of course you can create high detailed (and sometimes even better looking) than other models with high polycount.
Too bad developers don't use more normal mapping.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 11:24AM
Umm, they DO. Normal Mapping made it's commercial release debut in Chronicle of Riddick. Recent showcases of Normal Mapping includes the phenominal cloth in VF5, Gears of War and UT3, and all those things you claimed were bump maps in SSBB.
Basically, a normal maps differentials from a bump map as such. A bump map is a greyscale image which only shows details in Z axis. A bump map cannot fake shadows and likewise, a bump maps edges on a polygon and a HUGE giveaway. A normal map, meanwhile, uses a high polygon version (What I'm currently working on for that A-12 Seraph) as a basis for "baking" surface details in an RGB image. So then you create your low poly model (for characters, it goes the other way around, I just find it easier to work high, then low, on vehicles) and tell the system to generate a normal map. Basically it then goes in and gives a much better illusion of depth to the details although, at the same time, the poly edges remain the giveaway on geometry that it's map generated.
Basically this is a good example to look at.
You get to see the high res and low res models (wireframe) so you get to see what I'm talking about.
http://www.gameartisans.org/gamecon/galleries/artwork.php?uid=1053&aw=718
xFenixKnightx @ Apr 25th 2008 11:29AM
Ok sttle down guys I dont think we needed that long post Shepster. Bottom Line here guys...
COD4 looks amazing on both PS360. The new map pack is even more detailed. Campaign is flawless and sound is spectacular. Must own for any PS360 owner =) k? K.
JakubK666 (Ninja Defence Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 11:34AM
I'm not touching that.
Jody Anthony (cookingrebels.com) @ Apr 25th 2008 11:38AM
if it doesn't upscale to 1080i I am gonna be pissed.
Trev @ Apr 25th 2008 11:46AM
MGS has always had that slightly hyperreal thing going. Soldier's movements are always perfect, everything is just stylized enough to look like Metal Gear, but not enough that it's a cartoon instead of a simulacrum (taken without the negative connotations) of reality.
Simply, MGS4 looks really good, but it's not supposed to look realistic whereas COD4 is trying to look as real as possible. It's not that it doesn't look as good, it just doesn't look as realistic.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 11:48AM
fenix, my big long post was explaining normal maps...
Nothing warring.
Zoesch @ Apr 25th 2008 12:52PM
Fidlious, not to be nitpicking but it's Hydrocephali/Hydrocephalic
Tranando @ Apr 25th 2008 1:35PM
By your mental reckoning, Halo3 and COD4 are rally crappy, and worse than MGS4.
You really are an idiot. I feel ashamed to even take the piss out of you these days..
Chameleon @ Apr 25th 2008 3:09PM
'take the piss out of you'
....
Purple Haze @ Apr 25th 2008 10:22PM
Seriously Fernando, every time you post you just sound like a dick. Of the current-gen consoles I only own a Wii and love it, but everything that comes out of your mouth is shit. Even when you have a good point you follow it up with some stupid troll comment about the 360 or the PS3 and invalidate any point you might of had.
Ninjakamster @ Apr 25th 2008 10:34AM
WHAT THE FUCK!? NOBODY TOLD ME THERE WERE PATCHES THERE!!!
PSN: KillaKornbread (the shirt is a lie!) @ Apr 25th 2008 10:42AM
lol nice caption. Metal Gear Awesome is...well...awesome. did you see the second one? god i think it may have been funnier than the first.
Mr.ESC @ Apr 25th 2008 11:07AM
Merryl:Hey Snake there are patches there.
Snake:Thanks b*tch.
BPM [SSBB: 5026 4120 1186] @ Apr 25th 2008 3:07PM
GEE, I HOPE ANOTHER PATCH DOESN'T COME OUT OF NOWHERE AND OWN ME!!
JAH75157 @ Apr 25th 2008 10:42AM
would this be the 1.02 patch i downloaded last night? or is there a 1.03 now.
PSN: KillaKornbread (the shirt is a lie!) @ Apr 25th 2008 10:45AM
i dont really understand why i have to have all those different ID's to play the game. i mean other games just use the PSNID on their site and that works for stat tracking and such. maybe its just part of the beta.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 10:52AM
I think it's simply a matter of Konami not knowing how to do online. Japanese company, big suprise there (yes, sarcasm... online gaming in Japan still isn't a "thing.")
This is the bad side of completely open online. The good side is mods on ut3.
Pawsie @ Apr 25th 2008 11:55AM
maybe because teh PSN id has its limit.. and also maybe because they plan to do a lot of things with it.. including keeping track of other users, and use their network way pass sony.
But i think it's past the beta.. meaning that you may still keep your id. But it could also be for the forum they have set for metal gear.. like they did for the previous MGO
PSN: KillaKornbread (the shirt is a lie!) @ Apr 25th 2008 12:10PM
i think im going with Wong. online gaming in Japan is not big. its considered rude there to have people knowing what your doing all the time and such and thus they are just starting this online thing where as the US has been doing it for a while now. theyll get the hang of it eventually though.
Sir Fidlious Wong (Zeon Defense Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 12:30PM
pawsie, considering I can tie my PSN name to the PS Store on PC and the Rock Band community page... I'm having a hard time trying to figure out where you think the PSN name has it's limit.
It's not hard to incorprate a universale login system. In fact, Sony has freely distributed those tools at last years GDC. Not this years, LAST YEARS.
Nice try though.
Marshmallow713 @ Apr 25th 2008 10:46AM
Its up and running, btw. I'm logged in right now.
Phoenix @ Apr 25th 2008 3:17PM
You need a Konami Id for the beta only. Its used for gathering data on the beta. The real game will use the PSN Network. Everyone keeps forgetting this is a BETA, not the full game.
FOXHOUND @ Apr 25th 2008 10:50AM
PATCHES?!
PATCHES?!
WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' PATCHES!
John McPoop @ Apr 25th 2008 11:06AM
Will play this tonight for sure ... The patch took me about 5 minuted to DL last night
deaftly @ Apr 25th 2008 11:29AM
That must be a new record because anything patch/firmware PS3 wise takes 30+ minutes usually.
Syxx @ Apr 25th 2008 11:13AM
The servers appear to be up for play now. I have played a few rounds already; it's pretty sweet.
Zoesch @ Apr 25th 2008 11:26AM
And the Fernando schtick continues to get old.
Make sure your console of choice can support something other than 480p (If you're lucky) before you talk about any other console. Most games are internally upscaled from their native resolution on both the 360 and the PS3.
Then again you're the one advocating getting EDTV's (Expensive an Obsolete) for the Wii to look decent... let me tell you something, the TV is the least of your concerns there.
BPM [SSBB: 5026 4120 1186] @ Apr 25th 2008 3:06PM
Hey, now. The Wii can support something besides 480p...
It can also do 480i!
:P
TripleTags @ Apr 25th 2008 11:48AM
Close? I have been playing since 7am this morning. (US - Central)
JakubK666 (Ninja Defence Force) @ Apr 25th 2008 11:32AM
I'm not touching that.
jlrang @ Apr 25th 2008 11:41AM
The beta is open folks.
Pawsie @ Apr 25th 2008 12:11PM
I now understand why the 3 different IDs.. This is my guess.
first id is because we need it.. the psn.
second id is for 'them' to keep track of us and to use their webpage and forum (It's going to happen.. like the last one). The game is about team work.. so they'll going to set something up for that.. besides just email
third id is for the stupid. There's going to be people who'll complain they were hacked. Well, even if you get hacked.. there's no reason for you to give anyone your Konami ID.. so you can fix that problem yourself -- There should be 'no' way for someone to learn your konami ID, because it's private.
So it's a security measure.. much liek how a webpage ask you to set up 3 passwords.
schuyler @ Apr 25th 2008 2:49PM
I'm guessing the reason for the three IDs is so you don't play out of your region since the European beta is open and the other regions are not... hopefully they will not make it to the final game
hvnlysoldr @ Apr 28th 2008 3:02PM
Obligatory eye patch