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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:23PM cesaria said

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Double Dash is 'hardcore' MK. 64 is for 'casuals.' There, does everyone understand now?
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:24PM (Unverified) said

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Cesaria

Very true. Those are the exact words.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 5:01PM (Unverified) said

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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PEOPLE, JUST DODGE THE BLUE SHELL! IT ISN'T THAT HARD!
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 2:41PM D3m0sthenes said

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85 is about what I expected. It's Mario Kart, it's good, but it's just Mario Kart.

Posted: Apr 26th 2008 2:42PM SpaceSpace said

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Wow, this game comes out Sunday? Weird how Nintendo is realising games on Sundays now instead of Tuesdays like all other companys do. They did this with Brawl, now MKWii, I would be surprised if Wii Fit comes out on a Sunday too.

Posted: Apr 26th 2008 2:56PM jynxycat said

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Nintendo has always released products on Sunday. Where have you been ?
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 2:58PM (Unverified) said

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Well releasing it this sunday is bad enough, but if they had released it tuesday they would have been digging their own grave and burying it. No one's dumb enough to go toe to toe with GTA.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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Well, Nintendo clearly has a strategy againts GTA... obviously GTA will sell a lot, thats why Nintendo is going to release Mario Kartjust before GTA.

Now, in the forums of Cheap Ass Gamer, they alway post the retailers ads for the week (they usually upload the newsaper ad), and the Wii is listed in every big retailer.

Target, Circuit City, Best Buy, Toys r Us and Walmart are going to get big Wii shipments tomorrow.

So, this will help the Wii against GTA.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:13PM (Unverified) said

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I'll give you your retailer ads, which gta is also all over, and raise you entire buildings in major cities across the world :P

I don't think their trying to compete with GTA, they're just trying to get whatever they can get and move on to the next first party rehash. They'd be happy if MK can sell a million in the US in the first month compared to GTA's 4-6 million in a few days.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:17PM (Unverified) said

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Dont want to start a war, jordan. But GTA is a multiplatform title, besides it will be released worlwide.

But one thing is for sure: Mario Kart Wii will outsell the PS3 version of GTA

=p
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:23PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not so sure anymore. The more I read forums and see more people wanting the ps3 version and hear news like the ps3 version getting more preorders in a whole continent the more I'm starting to believe you'll be wrong. But who knows we'll see in a week (or month whenever gta sales come out)
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:25PM Mr Khan said

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Please, you underestimate Mario Kart

This game will sit behind Brawl in overall sales, just like DD did to Melee. 1 million in the US is a given

There are a lot of people out there who either don't have a PS3 or a 360, or just don't care about GTA
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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In a month dude... in the next NPD numbers...

Im not denying that GTA will sell more than Mario Kart in the first week... but in the firt month, Mario Kart will have the lead over the PS3 version.

But not against both versions combined.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 5:05PM (Unverified) said

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No, it won't. I have to agree with Jordan on this one - while there are more Wii owners than PS3 owners, you'd be hardpressed to find a PS3 owner who isn't going to buy Grand Theft Auto 4, whereas it's not as though every single Wii owner is going to go out and buy MKWii.

Grand Theft Auto will outsell Halo 3, which outsold Brawl. And honestly, you think Mario Kart Wii will outsell Brawl? It won't. Which means it will not have sold more units than Halo 3, which means it will not sell as many units as GTA4. Hell, even if the game was exclusive to PS3, I'd still see it outselling, well, every other game ever made.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 2:55PM jynxycat said

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Stale franchise is stale.

N64 or bust.

Posted: Apr 26th 2008 2:56PM Mr Khan said

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Scores seem fitting once again. Its a fun game, but it could've used a delay like Metroid Prime 3's second delay: "to put a layer of polish on"

Plus, said delay would have been welcome. If this game had been, say, an August release, it would've fit in my schedule neatly. As it is, it forces me to delay buying Okami, and shoved FFCC: The Ring of Fates completely off my list

Sure i'll love it nonetheless, though. It's Mario Kart after all, and the effort to build an online infrastructure for this one puts Brawl quite to shame

Posted: Apr 26th 2008 8:09PM BurntMeatloaf said

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It's a written policy that Nintendo only reserves delays for Europe and Australia.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:29PM Muffimon said

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It'll always be the SNES one for me. I didn't really like any racing game on the N64, F-Zero or Mario Kart.

Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:32PM (Unverified) said

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Having just seen gameplay of Ratchet and mario galaxy for instance, I wondered why Mario fot 8-10 points more when both are essentially a rehash of excellent platformer. Looking into the reviews here I realised why - for any wii game you have to subtract 10 points for wii hype. In case of Mario galaxy, an excellent 88-90 game (similar to what ratchet or say a good shooter would get) went to an average score close to 100 because of the "wii bonus". In this case, a lousy sub-70 game will get 80+ because of the same reason.

I tried to figure out why this game got 80+ scores, and it seems that the biggest positive reviewers cite is online - which has existed on XBOX and PS3 for years now.
Read further into these 3 reviews and this is what I found:
AI:
"the item balance issues and god awful rubber band AI"
"One cheesy last-ditch effort after another by unfair AI-controlled components. And suddenly you've gone from first place to eighth by no fault of your own. You don't even have a defense against these items"
"skill has been placed on the back burner in favor of luck."
Graphics:
"hard to see any improvement on what was done with the GameCube version and this. Some of the retro tracks have received noticeable improvements, but others look basically the same...Mario Kart for the Wii has a simple, washed-out look."
Soundtrack: nothing that really stands out in Mario Kart. The voice samples for the characters can grate on the nerve"

I mean, what the hell? How much do you think a game with similar AI, graphics and gameplay would get if it was released on any other system? 60? 70?

Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:37PM (Unverified) said

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So, in reality every Wii game is 10 points lower than his current score?

Thats the dumbest comment I will read all this week.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 3:41PM cesaria said

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Galaxy, Prime 3, SSBB, and Zelda certainly deserve the scores they got, and I'm going to guess this one does, too. Your argument is flimsy and circumstantial.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 4:41PM Bridget said

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I agree with that comment, personally. Ask yourself the following question: If you replaced Mario and company with the gang from Crash Bandicoot, would this game still be getting the scores it has?
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 4:51PM (Unverified) said

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If a character's design or familiarity adds to the charm and effect to the game, so what? Seriously, every time I hear this "if you replaced ___ with ___" crap I wanna pimpslap the guy who posted it.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 4:54PM (Unverified) said

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"In case of Mario galaxy, an excellent 88-90 game (similar to what ratchet or say a good shooter would get) went to an average score close to 100 because of the "wii bonus"."

Couldn't have been the fantastic level design, the fresh gravity element, the awesome art style, the incredible soundtrack, etc. that netted it that score.

Seriously, this is one of the dumbest arguments I've read in a while.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 5:48PM (Unverified) said

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In your first sentence colinbell, you claim that Galaxy is a "rehash". From there I stopped reading and voted you down -1.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 8:19PM BurntMeatloaf said

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Fatass: "If a character's design or familiarity adds to the charm and effect to the game, so what?"

Because in many of these character-based spin-offs, the character's design or familiarity doesn't *integrate* into the gameplay.

It's a karting game. If you have to rely on the characters to make the game interesting, then there's something wrong.

I feel the same way about Ratchet and Clank. I loved the older games, but the PS3 game was a major step backwards, with it's finicky controls, broken strafing and collisions, poor Sixaxis implementation, and lack of multiplayer. The new character designs, familiar faces, Lombax intrigue, and slick new animation didn't quite make up for that.
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 4:02PM snarfoogle said

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"Online seriously raises the bar for Nintendo, trumping even Smash"

Nothing to say but that I LOL'D.

Posted: Apr 26th 2008 5:05PM (Unverified) said

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So the bar went from sitting on the floor to just above the toes?
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Posted: Apr 26th 2008 8:27PM Bluebreaker said

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Online gaming is overrated. Seriously.

Posted: Apr 27th 2008 12:46AM (Unverified) said

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my review

95/100

Posted: Apr 27th 2008 8:46PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Apr 29th 2008 3:23AM (Unverified) said

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As ever a new version of mariokart causes so much debate! i like thw wii version and think its the closest to the best version which was the snes one. All the others were poor at best, i agree with the blue shell arguement but what about the 'you only get bananas if you are in the lead' problem which has afflicted all the versions since the snes? Wii version is good, much better than n64 and DD, jesus the n64 was disowned by all hardcore snes mariokarters for being totally awfull!
Not sure about the steering wheel though!

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