Too bad your trolling was transparent, and even worse, not funny. Even though PS3 put up a huge fight in Europe over a single game, that doesn't mean MS is doing bad. It doesn't mean they're doing bad even if they come in 3rd place worldwide as long as the Xbox division can continue to be profitable.

Ya know, I just logged into PSN to find that Haze is still only available in the European store, and not the U.S. store. After getting GT5:P later as well recently, this really got me thinking.

Why do idiotic fanboys (see above) want their console to do so much better in foreign lands for the sake of some intangible console "war" that really has no effect on them when all that does is mean that they're the ones getting screwed over instead of the people in said foreign land?

I constantly see European 360 owners (with the 360 doing much better in the US than it is there) complaining about getting screwed over on XBL releases and all I can think is "man that really sucks".

Now, the PS3 seems to be moving in the same direction for the US. The better and better the PS3 sells in Europe compared to the US the later and later we're getting our stuff over here compared to them. The US always got stuff first...but not anymore.

Is it really worth it to you to get your stuff later and be thought of as second fiddle just for the sake of being able to make some trollish comment on an internet message board that everyone is just going to vote down and ignore anyway? If another big release hits there first on the day they get it wouldn't you rather be playing the game (or who knows, maybe even Home/XMB) yourself rather than typing out some un-witty one-liner that no one is going to care about anyway?

Don't get me wrong, this applies to European 360 fanboys who clamor on about U.S. sales just as much as it does American PS3 fanboys who clamor on about 360 sales in the US, but I just don't get why people are so excited about getting personally screwed over for the sake of some numbers floating around in cyberspace.

Frank, you remind me of Hillary Clinton. Losing in the number of delegates, number of states won, the popular vote... and trying to convince everyone that she's kicking Barack Obama's ass.

So let me get this right. The 360 version sells more than the ps3 version in an area that is more favorable for ps3....and microsoft should be worried?

There should be a word or character limit on posts.

All he really needed to do was to use the second paragraph and he'd get his point across.

Maybe for a normal person, but I was responding to Frank and based on his post history I figured I'd better explain it several times to make sure he could keep up ;)

you could just make a european account and stop feeling envious and left out

Why don't you just change your name to FrankTheDouche already?

Poor guys. Can only read 2 paragraphs before they start getting tired.

Wow, you guys a bit touchy about what I said?

Geeez...you wear panties as well?

True. It was "pre-order only" everywhere I went. I broke down and ordered from Amazon.

I wonder if they are counting the PS3 with the GTA pack-in. I know alot of people were getting that.

Just over 60 million.

Much heavier than a metric ton. (Just wanted to clear that up before someone became confused by your utilization of the F'n Shit unit system of weight.)

no doubt about it a new San Andreas complete with a makeover since it's been well over a decade assuming the next "San Andreas" is set in 20XX

Damn, I type too slowly; but my point exactly.

Giving PS2s away with bottled water...

You have any idea what you're talking about? Or did you just want to use a cute little phrase?

I'm sorry my hyperbole was lost on you. Let me clear it up for you...

Comparatively speaking, the PS2, at the time of release, was much less expensive than the current consoles that support GTA IV (sorry Wii.) One might even go so far as to exaggerate this price discrepancy as to say that the PS2 might as well have been free. This is what I have done. Literally speaking the console was probably 129.00 USD. Figuratively, the console was a free prize with any purchase of your choice of spring water.

Again, sorry for the confusion,

-Management

Pwnt.

Thank you for that bit of sarcasm, I guess no one got it ..

There's a lesson there; don't shop at GAME. Every GAME store in the country is staffed by pricks who know nothing about games, and will rip you off at any opportunity. Among other gripes, the returns policy on pre-owned games is a joke; you can't return it if you break the seal they put on the box, so if the disc is scratched when you bought it you're fucked. Anyway (rant over), you didn't actually buy the game with the guide did you?

i went in to game to get it on thuursday id already tried quite a few shops so i was kinda desperate, they had it and they didnt try and force me to buy anything else, they gave me the preorder bonus as well, the 500 ms points and free gamerpics, although i dont know how game get away with selling games for £45 when supermarkets can sell them for £35-£40

To be honest I was so pleased at managing to find a copy without pre-order I took it. I did try to pre-order at Gamestation but was told that they would have plenty left on Tuesday and weren't taking any more pre-orders, then it just-so-happens they sell out first thing Tuesday morning before I get away from work.

The girl behind the counter in Game did genuinely look pretty uncomfortable when she told me and I looked at her with disgust, but I took it anyway. The guide is actually pretty good, but on retrospect I wished I'd punched the guy who told me there were copies available, but failed to mention I'd have to buy the guide, then waited most of my lunch break in a queue.

It has probably sold more in Europe, but the UK is lagging a little in PS3 adoption compared to the rest of the continent. My estimate is that the UK has become solid PS3 land by the time the next PES iteration ships.