BioWare technical producer Derek French lit up the Mass Effect forums this past week announcing that both their game and (on page 2) fellow Electronic Arts title Spore come with SecuROM, a DRM system that requires activation the first time you play the game and then a re-check every ten days, with the first check on the fifth day.
French explained that there is no external program installed and the check will be run through MassEffect.exe (or Spore.exe, presumably), the data transfered will be the CD key and a "unique machine identifier of some type" and that he has been told, "there will be clear labeling on the package."
Despite all these reassurances, an unfortunate scenario brought up by one poster -- of ignoring the game 11 days and then trying to play with no internet -- was proven true, as French confirmed you wouldn't be able to play the game under that situation. Of course, it's not like you're gonna put any of these games down for ten days, right? Right? Eh, we hate DRM.
(Note: We do understand the irony of making a Samara/The Ring joke when -- spoiler -- her primary goal was to have people make as many copies as possible.)
[Via Shacknews]
Reader Comments (170)
Posted: May 8th 2008 7:03AM (Unverified) said
so you won't buy a supposedly great (and artistic) game because it has some copy protection that you would never even have noticed if joystiq hadn't pointed it out??
Er... ok... good luck with that.
And good luck with ever buying a PC game again, as 90% of them use securom protection. (including a load of previous bioware games).
If (and only if) EA don't have enough servers for launch day and there is hassle involved, then feel free to whine.. but right now there is nothing to indicate that there are ANY problems with this system.
(and it has the bonus that you don't need the DVD).
PS/ Of course it won't stop it being pirated.. but that doesn't mean they aren't entitled to try (as long as they don't penalize legitimate users). However it MIGHT delay it being cracked and since 90% of their profits come in the first few weeks, a few weeks delay to it being pirated might be the difference between them making enough money to bring ME2 to the PC, or just giving up.
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Er... ok... good luck with that.
And good luck with ever buying a PC game again, as 90% of them use securom protection. (including a load of previous bioware games).
If (and only if) EA don't have enough servers for launch day and there is hassle involved, then feel free to whine.. but right now there is nothing to indicate that there are ANY problems with this system.
(and it has the bonus that you don't need the DVD).
PS/ Of course it won't stop it being pirated.. but that doesn't mean they aren't entitled to try (as long as they don't penalize legitimate users). However it MIGHT delay it being cracked and since 90% of their profits come in the first few weeks, a few weeks delay to it being pirated might be the difference between them making enough money to bring ME2 to the PC, or just giving up.
Posted: May 7th 2008 11:07PM Veko said
Damned be the damned!
My current gaming PC has no internet (curses to Vista). Guess I better get on trying to get my computer back on the internet before Spore comes out.
And, yes, I hate you now, EA. Very much.
My current gaming PC has no internet (curses to Vista). Guess I better get on trying to get my computer back on the internet before Spore comes out.
And, yes, I hate you now, EA. Very much.
Posted: May 8th 2008 1:20AM (Unverified) said
I want to know what Will Wright thinks about this.
Posted: May 8th 2008 1:25AM (Unverified) said
I should've scrolled up... ScorpSt beat me to it.
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Posted: May 8th 2008 6:54AM (Unverified) said
god, not again!
This ia a total non-issue. For 99% of people its gonna be totally invisible.. and its the same systems that has already been done on loads of games.
I hate restrictive DRM as much as everyone else... but this is totally NON-restrictive DRM. Its not evil and doesn't mess with your system like starforce. The requirement is clearly pointed out on the box.
Plus it lets you play the game without a DVD in the drive, just like steam.
All the people saying they won't buy it now, or will pirate it were obviously planning to do so anyway.. and using this as a transparent excuse it just pathetic. Grow up!
This ia a total non-issue. For 99% of people its gonna be totally invisible.. and its the same systems that has already been done on loads of games.
I hate restrictive DRM as much as everyone else... but this is totally NON-restrictive DRM. Its not evil and doesn't mess with your system like starforce. The requirement is clearly pointed out on the box.
Plus it lets you play the game without a DVD in the drive, just like steam.
All the people saying they won't buy it now, or will pirate it were obviously planning to do so anyway.. and using this as a transparent excuse it just pathetic. Grow up!
Posted: May 8th 2008 9:41AM Sinnix said
I'm going to make myself really unpopular and admit that this really doesn't bother me that much. As long as it works the way it's supposed to and their validation servers don't crack under pressure I don't see me ever caring that it's phoning home.
And for all you damn pirates who are complaining about this, I'm wondering if you're seeing the irony as THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT.
And for all you damn pirates who are complaining about this, I'm wondering if you're seeing the irony as THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT.
Posted: May 8th 2008 1:02PM (Unverified) said
Well, it already happened once for Microsoft with Windows Vista. I'm betting it will happen again.
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Posted: May 8th 2008 12:02PM Ethan said
And the viscous circle of crap fostering crap continues.
Posted: May 8th 2008 1:01PM (Unverified) said
EA has just lost a customer. No Spore for me until they remove this online validation nonsense.
Posted: May 8th 2008 1:19PM (Unverified) said
Count me as another lost customer. And to any and all pointing out that DRM titles sell better, do a search for Galactic Civilization or Sins of a Solar Empire. The producer of those games Stardock outright refused any DRM on the basis of their customers not wanting it. And Sins has been one of the best selling PC game in years.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080320-pc-game-developer-has-radical-message-ignore-the-pirates.html
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080320-pc-game-developer-has-radical-message-ignore-the-pirates.html
Posted: May 8th 2008 1:30PM (Unverified) said
Hold up...
If I'm a pirate, why would I give even a hint of a shit about this?
If I'm a pirate, why would I give even a hint of a shit about this?
Posted: May 9th 2008 12:52AM Lekko said
I typically buy the game, install it, then crack the shit out of it so I can play it without the disc/DRM/whatever. Downloading it takes too long (I'm impatient) and I hate having to swap out the disc for a disc check.
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:57PM (Unverified) said
I am confused. I live in a place where dial-up is the only option due to no clear view of the southern sky. When I need to use the internet, I will use the library in my town which is 30 miles away from my house.
Am I to understand that I will need to sign up for dial-up to play a single player game that has no online gameplay element? If this is widely adopted, I will not even be able to play a single player PC game on my home computer?
I just want to make sure I am understanding this correctly, if I am wrong, I apologize in advance for the rant.
Am I to understand that I will need to sign up for dial-up to play a single player game that has no online gameplay element? If this is widely adopted, I will not even be able to play a single player PC game on my home computer?
I just want to make sure I am understanding this correctly, if I am wrong, I apologize in advance for the rant.
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:40PM (Unverified) said
I was going to buy it (Mass Effect) looks like I won't be.. I will however still play it and enjoy it with the DRM stripped out. Good job BioWare! keep shooting yourself in the foot and blame it on piracy, you are forcing people to it.
Posted: May 11th 2008 9:45PM Mr Khan said
Good thing this was resolved, at least in ME's case
Posted: May 14th 2008 3:48PM (Unverified) said
I believe Jeremy from Pure Pwnage but it oh-so eloquently:
"EA can suck mah balls. The E on the right one, and the A on the left one."
I hate EA
"EA can suck mah balls. The E on the right one, and the A on the left one."
I hate EA
Posted: May 29th 2008 11:12PM xxdesmus said
It's BS like this that results in thousands (millions?) of people stealing computer games. This type of DRM is despicable.
Posted: Jun 15th 2008 2:26PM (Unverified) said
I doubt EA is concerned about its loss of sales due to pirates, although they will tell consumers they are. They seem more concerned with loss of sales due to multiple home users using 1 copy to pass around between all the family members' PCs. If a family of 4 were to use the same 1 purchased game, the company thinks it just lost $180 in potential sales. The ideal future for gaming they've rigged up will be something like MS Windows only being able to run on 1 machine, with a hefty price tag attached.
They are free to do this. They are a private company offering a non essential service. We as consumers are free to NOT PURCHASE their crap for outrageous prices. The more we buy, the more we put up with, is the more we will be screwed by them.
If you don't like what they offer, don't buy,instead BOYCOTT. Buy from game makers that do not require internet connection to play a single player offline game. Take the time the make your voice be heard, and take the time to not hand over your hard earned cash so easily.
They are free to do this. They are a private company offering a non essential service. We as consumers are free to NOT PURCHASE their crap for outrageous prices. The more we buy, the more we put up with, is the more we will be screwed by them.
If you don't like what they offer, don't buy,instead BOYCOTT. Buy from game makers that do not require internet connection to play a single player offline game. Take the time the make your voice be heard, and take the time to not hand over your hard earned cash so easily.
Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:22PM (Unverified) said
so, if im correct. Not playing this game for 10 causes you to never be able to play it again without illegally downloading it or purchasing it again 0.0'
and they expect to sell copies -_-'
and they expect to sell copies -_-'
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