If you don't mind me asking, how many points did the game earn when it raped you? Did it get the high score?

I think what's more important is the fact that these same people will defend any book just because it's a book. Which means I could give a child $8 to go into a store and buy a copy of American Psycho and nary an eyebrow would be raised. Why? Well, aside from the H-Games, no game has featured rape. In the novel? He rapes a severed head....

Now comes the frightening thing, when I was 8, I read Stephen King's The Stand because it was in my elementary school library. Granted, I was fucked up beforehand but still.

Im not entirely familiar with how it works in the US but over here in the UK most shops will ID anyone who looks underage to be playing the game.

Its not really an issue checking ID's. The real problem, as many have said, is with parents buying there kids these games, and then complaining about stricter measures needing to be enforced.

Case in point, i went to GameStation to get a copy of GTA IV on the 29th and the last copy was sold right infront of me to a woman buying the game for her 6 year old son who was standing right there, he couldnt even reach the counter. Its that kind of blantant lack of parenting that really annoys me!

@ Sir Fidlious Wong

A severed Head? THat's sick. Anyways, every new media has it's share of troubles while getting popular. Books and music went through the same thing before it came the norm. lol I remember reading something about people calling music the new porn.

No. They aren't supposed to. You know who IS supposed to censor? Parents. Sadly, half decent parents are rare these days. Parents shouldn't even deserve to call themselves parents anymore. The real parents these days are politicians who know jack about what they're censoring.

Oh, I see now. I read bounchfx's comment and realized they do that probably out of company policy, not out of requirement by law. My bad.

What's funny is this comes a day before FTC's reports came out and it basically said the industry IS doing a much better job at self regulating...

The rationale for the bill is sensationalistic, but the logic behind it really can't be argued against. We check IDs for movies, tabacco, alcohol - what makes games any different? Pass the damn thing already and let our buddy Jack start blaming GameStop instead of Take Two.

I completely agree with Paul. Better gamestop and walmart be blamed than the devs.

Difference? There is no legal requirement for them to ID you on movies.

Also, to use a game oft-targeted by people offended by video games, Grand Theft Auto shows the consequences of one's actions. More so, in this latest title, Grand Theft Auto 4, consequences are nigh realistic. Land one punch to someone with authorities in the area? Police seek you. Accidentally bump into a police vehicle? Police seek you. Do these critics actually play the games they hate so much?

umm there are plenty of Hentai in mall suncoast video or whatever it is called these days, and all they have are flaps of plastic hiding the row of box art.. same with teh playboy titles

You can triple your points if you string those together in a triple threat combo. I know, I've tried. I got the idea form a video game.

Republicans like states rights when they don't agree with national policy and ignore them when they do.

The bill just has to get voted on by the house, if it passes, it gets voted on by the senate, if it passes there, the pres signs the bill (if he wants) and it becomes law.

Watch this hahaha

Schoolhouse Rock- How a Bill Becomes a Law
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

You left out the part about how special interest groups hire lobbyists that spend $2,000 per candidate to buy votes.

thats up to the 14 y/o parents

I was too young to be playing GTA3 when it came out...and I think I turned out just fine.But my parents raised me right aswell so that helps.

And whats the deal with this post? I got ID'ed the other day buying GTA4...I thought all places had to do this anyway?

You know, the Viginia Tech shooter wasn't a killer in any way, shape, or form. In fact, he was a playwrite. How come the media didn't start pointing fingers at Broadway?

Basic thing is this. If this was being done for all the right reasons, I'd agree with it. But it's not. It's being based on blatantly false information that contradicts real research in an attempt to somehow "fix the system" that isn't broken in the first place.

How about instead of wasting money on this, we take steps to start controlling and legalizing drugs. "But then everyone would become druggies!" No, actually. Not everyone is a drunk nor a smoker. And since the Mafia was given power by prohibition, what do you think legalizing drugs would do to the street gangs who depend upon drug money to finance the street violence? But that's radical thinking, the world doesn't work that way. And so we'll blame another drug dealer who guns down a cop on GTA, not the system put in place to MAKE those drugs profitable. And our kids will become even safer the tighter we make the bubble around our children like that school shooter fuck who was basically isolated in the bible belt.

*Cho wasn't a GAMER... damn lack of editing.

So you agree with me it should NOT be up to the 14 y/o which is how it is now.

If this bill passes, said 14 y/o parents would have to buy the game for them.

Even the most attentive, most dedicated parents, could easily not realize what video game their kid is playing.

I think it would be nice for the law to actually enforce this. It's always hit and miss when you buy a game if you will get ID'd or not. I bought GTA IV a couple days ago and didn't, I bought COD4 and did, my little brother bought Halo 3 and did, he bought Bioshock and didn't.

REALLY?!?

Because my mother was working three jobs when I was growing up AND still kept a close watch on what games I was playing and was very involved in my habits in this regard.

Parenting isn't a fucking miracle, it's a byproduct of having children and taking responsibility for those actions and it's about high time for you bill supporters to realize that. I know when I was 14, I sure as fuck didn't have $60 at any given time. Likewise, when I did buy games, I was often taken by my mother to BUY these games. Hell, I even remember being denied renting Vice: Project Doom from Blockbuster until my mother had a chance to play it. Or how she would thumb through my Nintendo Power and make lists of games I could play.

i don't agree there should be a law. aren't enough retailers enforcing this as policy already?

"So why can't we just pass a law against flag burning?"

Custer's Revenge

We're more than a trillion dollars in a deficit. Unemployment isn't that high, it's much lower than European unemployment too. Still, I agree.