How would you ship DLC?

By pipes and tubes and cables and wires.

downloaded = shipped to your console??

That is a good point though, I just thought 2 mil would be too high for retail only, but maybe not

Considering it's two million SHIPPED to all three territories, I don't think it's too outrageous. Keep in mind, shipped could be sitting on retail shelves. Japan had it for a while, Europe loved it, no clue how it's doing in the states though I'd guess not good since most stores I've seen it at, the clerks are telling people not to pay for a demo... (then again, these are the same clerks who say Wii can play DVDs and that Microsoft has licensed Zelda).

I bought GT3.... got bored shitless saving up for my Dodge Viper. Finally purchased it, eager to take it on the track....

And I didn't have the right license. I do believe I have never uttered the phrase "fuck this game" more loudly than that moment....

Ouch. Yeah, that was sort of my main beef with this series. I don't want to have to drive some Mazda6 or Honda Civic for 5 hours before I can score a Porsche or something. I get while people might want to, one of my best friends probably put 150 hours into GT3, but it's definitely not my thing.

See, in Ridge Racer, all the cars are sexy.... and once you unlock it, you can drive it. And you can hear the soundtrack. And drifting is fun.....

RIIIIDGE RAAACER!

GTA is tough at first but incredibly rewarding once you can gain all of the licenses and start buying the good cars.

I still think the second one was the best though.

I said GTA....wonder what Im thinking about..

Yes, Ridge Racer FTW! I'm with you all the way Fiddy. I bought the very first GT and never bought anymore. BORIIIIIING! IMO of course.

There's that canned statement we all have forced on us each time GT comes up. Thanks!

Forza would disagree.

Other than being able to customize your car, Forza is a joke. And don't tell me that it has damage. The "damage" in the game is not very realistic. Certain canned animations take place when the car gets hit. It does not take into account variables like momentumn, speed, impact angles, weight ratios, and more. Yamauchi has said many times he will NOT do damage until it can be done as realistically as GT does everything else. Each car in GT5 has over 200 individual parts ranging from the motor to the bumper. In the final game EACH ONE of these 200+ parts will be interchangable. So when damage is implemented in the fall update for Prologue, the game will take into account all of those individual parts when they impact with another car, or wall.

Forza looks like ass, the racing itself is servicable, and the damage is a JOKE.

Gran Turismo THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR

@Go White Sox and Go other Team
As the owner of every GT (except Prologue) and Forza 2, I must say, you are completely full of it.

So, according to your argument, damage is all we use to demonstrate driving simulation? I driver for real each day without taking damage - so, am I not really driving?

BTW - Do you own Forza 2? Just curious since you damn it so strongly. I like it (and have it), and I have all the GT's other than the newest one. I don't think damage elements, whether you are right or wrong about the design of them, are the most important method to judge.

All of these console driving simulators are shit in a simulation sense. None of them feel even remotely real, not that it stops me playing them (Forza 2 being my favourite console racer). I personally really enjoy playing Live For Speed on PC using a racing wheel (logitech G25, with clutch pedal, gear shifter and all the trimmings) because, despite the slim selection of cars and poor graphics, the driving physics are pretty much spot on, and the game takes some real skill to play well. There's also the GTR series for PC which owns console simulators.