Alternate theory: The "San Andreas" on this plane ticket could be a reference to the original San Andreas, a top-down city based on San Francisco, from the first Grand Theft Auto.
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Rumor: GTA IV DLC going coast to coast, Niko books ticket to San Andreas
by James Ransom-Wiley 
on May 9th 2008 12:29PM
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Alternate theory: The "San Andreas" on this plane ticket could be a reference to the original San Andreas, a top-down city based on San Francisco, from the first Grand Theft Auto.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 1:09PM (Unverified) said
Wishful thinking my friend, for $50 mill, I'd bet otherwise.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 1:09PM (Unverified) said
Heyz can I borrow your crystal ball?
Rockstar employee? No?
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Rockstar employee? No?
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:21PM (Unverified) said
I'm having a difficult time believing this is the 360 DLC. If it was I believe MS would have been pushing this a lot more, and everywhere. We would have known this before the game released.
also..if GTA4 cost over 100mil to create, how much will another city cost? I know they have the PC assets to work with from San Andreas but it would still be very expensive to create.
time will tell.
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also..if GTA4 cost over 100mil to create, how much will another city cost? I know they have the PC assets to work with from San Andreas but it would still be very expensive to create.
time will tell.
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:27PM MarkHawk said
R* isn't one to say anything about a game until maybe 1 month before it comes out. It's not a big shock not to have heard anything about DLC.
Also on top of the 50 million they get a percentage of each DLC profit. So 50 million is just an up front development cost. The rest is additional profit.
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Also on top of the 50 million they get a percentage of each DLC profit. So 50 million is just an up front development cost. The rest is additional profit.
Posted: May 12th 2008 2:03PM (Unverified) said
Ahhh, the sweet smell of Sony fanboy denial. As DLC time approaches we'll see this ramp up and then It'll be..
"Oh it doesn't matter anyway because blah, blah, blah, Little Big Planet..." after it does drop.
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"Oh it doesn't matter anyway because blah, blah, blah, Little Big Planet..." after it does drop.
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:13PM baby sea tuna said
After watching Vanishing Point the other day, I really think that GTA should be cross country. Towns, cities, roadside Dinosaur Parks...I know it would take forgoddamnever to make, but c'mon, how cool would *that* be?!
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:21PM (Unverified) said
They def need to add a Jurassic Park island to GTA4, Niko ain't fraid of no dino.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 4:04PM Saria the Cat said
Oh man! I think another normal city, unless laden with relevant missions, would hardly be as interesting as a Jurassic Park or other themed place. I couldn't care less about mindless expansion of the city---every big metropolis looks nearly the same anyway, just different landmarks. I want a Pokemon spoof DLC enabling me to pick up my date riding a giant Charizard.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 1:21PM (Unverified) said
LOL, you have to be dumb as hell to think Rockstar is gonna give away a whole city as DLC for a mere 50 million. You'll see a new city in GTA4: San Andreas, until then, enjoy your new missions.
Posted: May 9th 2008 3:58PM (Unverified) said
A mere 50 million? The 100 million they are saying the game cost made it the most expensive of all time. With the engine and most of the assets other than landscape in place, it would be significantly less costly to make an add on city, why do you think they cranked out vice city and san andreas with little change to the actual gameplay? The technical stuff is good to go, all thats left is some, not all assets, and the story related elements. Plus as mentioned previously, that 50 mil is not the entirety of what they are being paid, they will get a cut on the profit side, remember WE will be paying for this DLC in the end, microsoft just gave the up front development costs, like any other game.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 1:24PM (Unverified) said
where in the picture does it even hint at DLC its most likely for a sequel on a disc . as for the exclusive DLC on the xbox its probably more than just horse armor but less than a city it could be that they just open up some of the existing buildings in liberty city.
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:28PM Duke said
You see, the idea is that there is this mystery DLC that everyone debates, and they are saying this may be a hint.
Its less likely that its another full game days after the release of this one and more likely that it would be a hint about the DLC we are all curious about. I doubt that many people are sitting by bored waiting for another full GTA. The 100% club cant be that large already.
Of course, it could mean nothing as well.
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Its less likely that its another full game days after the release of this one and more likely that it would be a hint about the DLC we are all curious about. I doubt that many people are sitting by bored waiting for another full GTA. The 100% club cant be that large already.
Of course, it could mean nothing as well.
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:46PM (Unverified) said
you say people dont want a new game yet but a whole city would be a new game .
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Posted: May 9th 2008 1:29PM (Unverified) said
So deaftly, you think that this is really going to happen? You think the 360 is going to get a full city to download this fall. LOL. Ok, we will see. I wonder why Microsoft didn't advertise that because it sure would have been great for sales, I guess they are just stupid. It has nothing to do with being a fanboy, it has to do with having a brain. They can make a new game for San Andreas and make another 1/2 billion on it or they could just bust their ass making a whole city for download for 50 million. You want to believe it then fine, you'll be a disappointed little boy come this fall though.
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:33PM Chris Smack said
The $50 Million was payment by Microsoft for exclusivity and then Rockstar still get money from the sales of the DLC so they'll be getting much more than that, maybe not as much as a stand-alone title though.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 2:12PM (Unverified) said
I demand more of these retardishous posts from rc.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 4:51PM (Unverified) said
Well, ALL of you are retardicious until we know what the DLC actually is. Right now, you're just beating each other with imaginary baseball bats.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 1:30PM Vegnagun said
Please be Vice City instead of San Andreas.
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:39PM CynicalStrike said
Personally I'm hoping the DLC is a rural, hilly upstate New York style area. I can't realistically see the DLC being an entire new city/state, R* know the next game is going to break records again, and will want to hold back on the goods till then. Remember, GTA is one of those titles which is very popular with more casual gamers too, and how many of them are going to buy DLC?
Posted: May 9th 2008 1:41PM MarkezJM said
I hope it's not SA or Vice City for that matter. That would just be retread. Plus, I would think SA would be waaaay too large to be DLC? I don't know.
On another note, how is the Rock* social site? I haven't checked it out at all yet...
On another note, how is the Rock* social site? I haven't checked it out at all yet...
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:02PM Jose820 said
What if it's New Jersey or something? Or another borough perhaps. Small enough, no?
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:08PM CynicalStrike said
New Jersey's already there; it's called Alderney in the game. And they already said a Staten Island-esque area would be a waste of space. My money's on upstate/rural.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 2:04PM (Unverified) said
The exclusive DLC is most likely going to just be missions, but taking place in a small part of San Andreas. Like in GTA: San Andreas, where CJ flys the plane to Liberty City, but can only travel in a small building. Niko will go to San Andreas, take a taxi to a certain building or place that would be blocked off from the rest of the state, and then travel back when the mission is done.
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:08PM (Unverified) said
Has anyone else noticed the part in the top left that looks like "SCEA 2904", where I think Flight and Date usually is?
I might be reading into things a bit much here, but if the pic does link into DLC somehow, it sounds like either it's coming to the PS3 on the 29th of April (UK date format seeing as R* North's British) or the PS3 has no chance of getting the DLC til the year 2904.
I might be reading into things a bit much here, but if the pic does link into DLC somehow, it sounds like either it's coming to the PS3 on the 29th of April (UK date format seeing as R* North's British) or the PS3 has no chance of getting the DLC til the year 2904.
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:11PM CynicalStrike said
I think it says "LCIA" (Liberty City Int. Airport?). and 2904 was the release date of the game: April 29.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 2:19PM Halorin said
I think it would be incredibly dense on Rockstar's part if the 360 DLC truly was the entire city/area of San Andreas. Think about it. They made $500 million off of Liberty City. They're going to make $50 + maybe $200 million from purchased DLC content?
I don't know. I think this picture may be a hint at a true sequel to GTA 4 as opposed to DLC. I base this off of the preliminary description of the DLC being 'episodic content'. I took that as story arcs with the known set of GTA4 characters rather than a whole different venue. I may be wrong, but I think Rockstar would stand to make more money if the city was sold as its own game.
I don't know. I think this picture may be a hint at a true sequel to GTA 4 as opposed to DLC. I base this off of the preliminary description of the DLC being 'episodic content'. I took that as story arcs with the known set of GTA4 characters rather than a whole different venue. I may be wrong, but I think Rockstar would stand to make more money if the city was sold as its own game.
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:22PM Tez said
If the exclusive DLC is San Andreas, that is an EPIC win for Microsoft.
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:37PM (Unverified) said
The one overriding reason why it's highly unlikely that any new cities will be included in this year's downloadable content is that most of GTA IV's development cycle was taken up creating all the art assets required to model a whole city.
Building a SanAndreas or Vice City with the level of detail seen in GTA IV's Liberty City would probably take another year or two at least, even with Rockstar's resources.
I wouldn't be surprised if the DLC comprised a whole new single-player campaign, maybe even on the scale of that in the original game, along with new multiplayer modes, but if there's a new location, my bet is that the absolute biggest that they could turn out in that time would be a new island.
So, new cities will be reserved for new games and personally I'm hoping they don't just re-hash previous cities and go further afield - something like GTA: London, Paris, Rio or Tokyo would get me more excited than another Los Angeles.
Building a SanAndreas or Vice City with the level of detail seen in GTA IV's Liberty City would probably take another year or two at least, even with Rockstar's resources.
I wouldn't be surprised if the DLC comprised a whole new single-player campaign, maybe even on the scale of that in the original game, along with new multiplayer modes, but if there's a new location, my bet is that the absolute biggest that they could turn out in that time would be a new island.
So, new cities will be reserved for new games and personally I'm hoping they don't just re-hash previous cities and go further afield - something like GTA: London, Paris, Rio or Tokyo would get me more excited than another Los Angeles.
Posted: May 9th 2008 3:10PM (Unverified) said
You make some valid points, I take back what I said on the 1st page. Too much time and effort would have to go into creating another city. Still, whatever Rockstar does, they did say they wanted to FILL up the HDD with content.
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Posted: May 9th 2008 3:23PM (Unverified) said
whats the 50 million for exactly ?
are we getting charged for this DLC ?
is some of the money going to rockstar aswell as microsofts 50 mill?
if thats the case then its entirely possible this could be true .
are we getting charged for this DLC ?
is some of the money going to rockstar aswell as microsofts 50 mill?
if thats the case then its entirely possible this could be true .
Posted: May 9th 2008 2:54PM (Unverified) said
Well, San Andreas and eventually VC would be quite logical. Original Development costs have been around $100 million and the engine creation has been a huge part of this. Now MS paid half of this, engine is already there, basic design of San Andreas and VC is already there, so it would "just" be a port to a new engine with a solid new mission design. And i guess, MS and Rockstar have a deal, that the profits will be shared to some extend. Aaaaah, Vice City in Euphoria glory....a man can dream.....
Posted: May 9th 2008 3:23PM 10169154 said
I do not want to visit vice city without its original soundtrack so unless I can download A classic radio station with all the songs I don't want it (yet).
If it is indeed a new city or what not they would want to re-use as many assets as they can, so rather than a state, San Francisco makes much more sense.
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If it is indeed a new city or what not they would want to re-use as many assets as they can, so rather than a state, San Francisco makes much more sense.
Posted: May 9th 2008 3:42PM One Stomy Night go watch it said
ehhh my brother has the 360 version so i can always try the DLC when it hits.
ahh a version thats extended and a version that won't get me RROD.
ahh a version thats extended and a version that won't get me RROD.
Posted: May 9th 2008 4:37PM edoglost said
OK, I'm not a fanboy, (yes you are) but I think this is going to happen.
Posted: May 9th 2008 5:27PM shattercross said
You guys shouldn't be too excited by an out of focus plane ticket in a background image, when has looking for clues like this ever proven effective? If you guys get a whole city as downloadable content come this fall, good for you. Just don't bitch if you look like the jackasses that tried to find the monster in the Cloverfield posters.
Posted: May 9th 2008 6:02PM RKN said
Why did Microsoft paid so much, go so out of their way to secure this exclusive DLC?
Do you think without out, the PS3 to 360 ratio of GTA4 sales would have been significantly higher? I'm getting DLC was a big selling point for the 360 version (me as well but my bro wanted a PS3)
I'm wondering how Microsoft can toss around all this money, maybe Sony is more of a threat than you guys think for them to shell out $50 mil?
Do you think without out, the PS3 to 360 ratio of GTA4 sales would have been significantly higher? I'm getting DLC was a big selling point for the 360 version (me as well but my bro wanted a PS3)
I'm wondering how Microsoft can toss around all this money, maybe Sony is more of a threat than you guys think for them to shell out $50 mil?
Posted: May 9th 2008 6:32PM Gwr said
i really wana troll the sony fanboys but that horses been beaten to death already.
Ill just sit and watch how these goes.
Ill just sit and watch how these goes.
Posted: May 9th 2008 6:27PM (Unverified) said
lol, I love it how all the ps3 fanboys have to come in here and downplay the possibility of a city as dlc. I guess since you guys aren't getting it hurts ;_;
Posted: May 9th 2008 7:05PM oldschoolgamer said
"I will have plenty to play aside from this, and I am content with waiting for L.A. Noire, the new franchise from Rockstar that is PS3 exclusive, and of course
GTA5 which more than likely will be PS3 only."
I hate to tell you this white sox since I know you hate giving any kind of credit to the 360 but Rockstar has already announced that LA Noir will be released on the 360 as well as the ps3. Oh well, you can still watch Toby Mcguire's nose hairs in high def as he swings around his blue city. The rest of us will be playing actual games right now instead of continuously waiting for the next big thing that Sony seems to love to promise but not deliver on.
GTA5 which more than likely will be PS3 only."
I hate to tell you this white sox since I know you hate giving any kind of credit to the 360 but Rockstar has already announced that LA Noir will be released on the 360 as well as the ps3. Oh well, you can still watch Toby Mcguire's nose hairs in high def as he swings around his blue city. The rest of us will be playing actual games right now instead of continuously waiting for the next big thing that Sony seems to love to promise but not deliver on.
Posted: May 9th 2008 9:36PM (Unverified) said
Well I have the PS3 version of the game, and that ticket is on my Social Club as well. It's in the Story Gang section, in the lower left corner, you can pick it up and move it around just like all the other items in that background.
Personally I doubt they'd make an entire state downloadable content, for either console. Microsoft probably just paid for a timed exclusive on some new missions/weapons/cars etc. And as we all now, we PS3 don't mind waiting for everything.
Personally I doubt they'd make an entire state downloadable content, for either console. Microsoft probably just paid for a timed exclusive on some new missions/weapons/cars etc. And as we all now, we PS3 don't mind waiting for everything.
Posted: May 10th 2008 2:07AM (Unverified) said
1. Has anyone thought that maybe most of the new content is already on the disk? I highly doubt that the talented people at R* pushed GTA4 back half a year just to make the PS3 version better. If anyone played the GTA3 series on the computer, a lot could be done with a few small mods. It seems like R* took a look at what worked with the online community. ( i.e. GTA:MP)
2. R* is know for doing the unexpected, that being said why would they go back down the same road with cities we all know are coming. If anything I expect to see London 1969 as the setting for GTA5. Vice City and San Andreas are real possibilities for DLC.
What better way to keep a healthy market share during the holiday season then to do something ground breaking. GTA4 is the best game I’ve played in a long time, but in terms of game play. (This is just my OPINION) “It’s not one year ahead of Saint Row”. SR did a lot of things well, for that reason, I don’t think we’ve seen the best of GTA4 yet.
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2. R* is know for doing the unexpected, that being said why would they go back down the same road with cities we all know are coming. If anything I expect to see London 1969 as the setting for GTA5. Vice City and San Andreas are real possibilities for DLC.
What better way to keep a healthy market share during the holiday season then to do something ground breaking. GTA4 is the best game I’ve played in a long time, but in terms of game play. (This is just my OPINION) “It’s not one year ahead of Saint Row”. SR did a lot of things well, for that reason, I don’t think we’ve seen the best of GTA4 yet.
Joystiq take note. If I’m right… make me a contributor!
Posted: May 18th 2008 1:55AM (Unverified) said
Spacing shouldn't be an issue,
If i'm thinking straight enough...
I mean....the Crackdown demo was a third(?) of the game and it was only a gig of download...so...I don't think recreating San Andreas would be terribly difficult...in terms of space...
...although, this is very uneducated knowledge of mine...so I may be way off
If i'm thinking straight enough...
I mean....the Crackdown demo was a third(?) of the game and it was only a gig of download...so...I don't think recreating San Andreas would be terribly difficult...in terms of space...
...although, this is very uneducated knowledge of mine...so I may be way off
Posted: Aug 1st 2008 2:19AM (Unverified) said
All of you thining there is going to be SA in the DLCare freakin retards. They arent doing that. They are probably adding a few new mission both single and MP. Also, Im not 100% on this but i think they are going to be adding a skateboard for the skate parks around the city. Other than that...you guys are dreaming. I mean cmon...Adding San andreas? thats too much effort..besides that would take a few years...not 9 months, they would have to REbuild it all in with the new engines. you guys obviously know nothing about game development...
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